MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[AppletonRocks]

UW-Oshkosh

Kyle Bolger  6'1"  SR
Taylor Jansen  6'4"  SR
Max Schebel  6'5"  SR
AJ Mueller  6'4"  SR
Sean Dwyer  6'6"  SR
Charlie Noone  6'1"  JR
Ben Boots  6'1"  SO
Brett Wittchow  6'4"  SO
Jack Flynn  6'8"  FR
Adam Fravert  6'7"  FR
Brian Wilman  6'5"  FR
Jake Zeitler  6'4"  FR

Tommy McGlynn of Stoughton was an announced recruit that didn't make it onto the roster, everyone else accounted for.

tomt,

Just wondering where you are getting the rosters you're posting. UWO's isn't even on their web site yet. Haven't checked other teams.
Also, with regard to Oshkosh, no (soph) Sam Johnson? Any insight on that?
Thanks.

There is a book that comes out every year around this time, The Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook,  coaches from every high school and college team in the state submit their rosters for this book.  Every year I buy the book and I got it yesterday.  The roster from Oshkosh was submitted by someone involved with their team.  I don't have any insight into why Sam Johnson isn't listed on the roster, maybe cubs or somebody else has some inside information as to what is going on there.

Read the comments about the WBY rosters and thought I could add something to the dialogue.

I know for a fact that Sam Johnson and several other players are on the team and are practicing with the team, just not listed in the WBY list above. Looked like about 18-20 guys at the practice I attended. Saw Sam in all the drills and scrimmaging that went on that day.   I am sure Sam will be on the roster and will be ready and able to help the Titans seek the WIAC title.  By the way, the Titans looked pretty good to me ! 

Hey cubs, if Coach DePagter allows me, I intend to try and see an LU practice sometime soon as well.  I am sure if they were 20-0 they still wouldn't meet your exacting standards, but I think the story behind that has nothing to do with basketball.     

[AndOne]

Thanks Rocks.
It doesn't sound like the Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook is a very complete or reliable resource.
Might be better just to wait until the school releases its roster--unless you have firsthand knowledge such as directly from the coach, or personal observation of practice.

[AppletonRocks]

Thanks Rocks.
It doesn't sound like the Wisconsin Basketball Yearbook is a very complete or reliable resource.
Might be better just to wait until the school releases its roster--unless you have firsthand knowledge such as directly from the coach, or personal observation of practice.

WBY is a great source for Wisconsin high school ball.  I think the "hide and seek" that happens until the first games in Wisconsin college ball makes it tough for them to gather accurate data. 

[RedHotFalcon]

It definitely comes from someone involved in the program. Most likely the head coach or assistant. Doesn't mean there couldn't be changes or additions.

[Just Bill]

It definitely comes from someone involved in the program. Most likely the head coach or assistant. Doesn't mean there couldn't be changes or additions.

Or that they're simply withholding information for whatever paranoid advantage they think it gives them.

[AppletonRocks]

It definitely comes from someone involved in the program. Most likely the head coach or assistant. Doesn't mean there couldn't be changes or additions.

Or that they're simply withholding information for whatever paranoid advantage they think it gives them.

I remember talking to a coach about this....they don't post rosters until the end for several reasons.  One is academic ineligibility, another is (for a few) election to grayshirt, one is injury during the preseason that precludes participation and lastly (again, not typical) a new guy shows up on campus that was not planned for that makes the squad.

I doubt paranoia fits into this too much, but I don't trust you and I don't even know you   

[fredfalcon]

D3 HOOPS Preseason poll:  UST 10, UWO 21. UWSP, WW, RF mentioned in "also getting votes". RF got ONE VOTE! "CELEBRATION TIME, OH YEAH."

RF plays UST and Hope (ranked 22) in November.

[Greek Tragedy]

The polls, especially the preseason poll, amuse me.

[Just Bill]

It definitely comes from someone involved in the program. Most likely the head coach or assistant. Doesn't mean there couldn't be changes or additions.

Or that they're simply withholding information for whatever paranoid advantage they think it gives them.

I remember talking to a coach about this....they don't post rosters until the end for several reasons.  One is academic ineligibility, another is (for a few) election to grayshirt, one is injury during the preseason that precludes participation and lastly (again, not typical) a new guy shows up on campus that was not planned for that makes the squad.

I doubt paranoia fits into this too much, but I don't trust you and I don't even know you 

I just assume every basketball and football coach is a paranoid, control freak. I've known too many.

[diplomaniac1]

Folks -

Just a quick report and observation from a Centennial Conference Fan and long-time Franklin And Marshall Diplomat Stalwart Supporter. I watched the rebroadcast of Monday's Wisconsin-Platteville/Wisconsin game on Tuesday afternoon on the Big Ten Network carried on the Lebanon Area Comcast Cable TV network. Not a bad showing by the Pioneers as they hung with the Badgers throughout the first half. The Badgers' size took a toll on the Pioneers. In my opinion, that was the biggest difference between the teams and was the deciding factor in the game which the Badgers won by about thirty points. Just thought it was interesting that Division III Basketball appears to be making some inroads on TV coverage!

Feel free to share this with others and to post on other conference boards. It is November 1st, so the games can't be too far behind! Regards to all.

Eric

[Greek Tragedy]

Zach Schradle the only preseason All-American on the list from the WIAC.

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2017

[Greek Tragedy]

I went through all the (nonconference) schedules for the 8 WIAC teams and calculated their opponents' winning percentage from last year. Obviously overall winning % doesn't tell the whole story. Of course, all because Augustana went 29-2 last year doesn't mean they'll do it again this year. In addition, a 15-10 team from a weak conference doesn't equal a 15-10 team from a traditionally strong conference.

Bear with me. A work in progress...

Whitewater: 141-145 (49%)
Great scheduling by the Warhawks as they have 8 home games, 2 neutral games and 1 true away game of their 11 nonconference opponents. 9 of 11 opponents have 10 or more loss with Ripon and Trine each suffering 9 losses. They have 1 non-D3 game against Lindsay Wilson (17-14). Their toughest game might be Ripon, picked a distant 2nd in the MWC.

Eau Claire: 146-145 (50%)
7 of the Blugolds opponents had losing records last year, including the likes of Northland (9-17), UC-Santa Cruz (10-15) and non D3 Viterbo (13-17) However, they do kick off against St. Norbert (25-3) and have a potential date with host Washington U. (15-10), if they get by Rhodes the 1st night of their tourney. They could potentially play UC-Santa Cruz twice, as they are at the same Washington U. tourney and they are scheduled to play them in Vegas.

La Crosse: 171-152 (53%)
8 opponents are hovering right around .500 for the Eagles. Lakeland, Webster and Albion are all just over .500. They also play Luther (5-20) and Viterbo. The winning % gets a big boost as the Eagles travel to Hope (24-4) and host Augustana (29-2). They really should go at least 9-2.

River Falls: 172-135 (56%)
The Falcons have a few cupcakes in their schedule with Hamline (4-21) and La Verne (9-16) in there, but they also play St. Thomas (30-3), Hope (24-4) and St. Olaf (19-10). Viterbo and Robert Morris are their non- D3 opponents.

Stout: 153-119 (56%)
I think Stout's opponent's winning percentage could be misleading. I didn't even include Silver Lake's 2015-2016 record because I couldn't find it. Stout has 3 non D3 games to; Minn-Crookston (3-23), Robert Morris (24-10) and Silver Lake. Hope is the biggest game for the Blue Devils this year. Stout does have some opponents with solid records but even Northwestern (22-6), Central (19-10) and Dubuque (18-8) are hardly world beaters.

Oshkosh 166-128 (56%)
Although the Titans play the likes of Edgewood (3-22) and George Fox (7-19), they challenge themselves with Benedictine  (31-1), Augustana  (29-2) and St. Norbert (25-3). The rest of the schedule is scattered with team around the .500 mark like Iowa Wesleyan (13-12), Marian (14-13), Maranatha Baptist (13-13) and a trio of 10-15 teams (Valvin, Coe and Carthage).

Platteville: 171-124 (58%)
Despite playing two 20-loss teams in Luther and Wheaton (IL), the Pioneers boost their opponent's winning percentage by playing the same trio as Stout does: Dubuque, Central and Northwestern, teams with good records, but not world beaters. Platteville does travel to North Central (IL) (19-8), the CCIW favorite and could face St. Norbert (25-3) in DePere.

[iwumichigander]

Greek - I do not see Augustana as a 29-2 team either but I do think others on the various boards underestimating Augustana.  The guys coming back may not have depth of experience but have a lot of skill talent. Most of Augie's bench would have seen meaningful minutes if not starting on other teams.

[Greek Tragedy]

Wow. Must have run out of space.

Stevens Point: 199-85 (70%)
That's not a typo. Point's opponent's 199 wins is 27 more than River Falls' opponent total and Point only has 10 nonconference games. Edgewood's 22 losses is more than 25% of the 85 total losses of Point's opponents. 5 of 10 opponents won their respective regular season conference titles; CNU (30-2), Lynchburg (23-7), Hope (24-4), St. Thomas (30-3) and Augustana  (29-2). In addition, St. OLaf (19-10) and North Central (IL) both finished 2nd in the MIAC and CCIW, respectively. Along with Edgewood  (3-22), Lawrence (10-13) and Superior (12-14) had losing records.

[tomt4525]

Wow. Must have run out of space.

Stevens Point: 199-85 (70%)
That's not a typo. Point's opponent's 199 wins is 27 more than River Falls' opponent total and Point only has 10 nonconference games. Edgewood's 22 losses is more than 25% of the 85 total losses of Point's opponents. 5 of 10 opponents won their respective regular season conference titles; CNU (30-2), Lynchburg (23-7), Hope (24-4), St. Thomas (30-3) and Augustana  (29-2). In addition, St. OLaf (19-10) and North Central (IL) both finished 2nd in the MIAC and CCIW, respectively. Along with Edgewood  (3-22), Lawrence (10-13) and Superior (12-14) had losing records.

Wow, I knew it was a tough schedule...but putting numbers to it makes it even more formidable.