MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[stoutguy]

It would make me nervous if a nice recruit like Alex Ohde (CFMcDonnell) (RF recruit) makes it to the state Tournament.  I would think that all of that extra exposure might make him vulnerable to change his mind. 

What say you Fredfalcon?

[tomt4525]

It would make me nervous if a nice recruit like Alex Ohde (CFMcDonnell) (RF recruit) makes it to the state Tournament.  I would think that all of that extra exposure might make him vulnerable to change his mind. 

What say you Fredfalcon?

I wouldn't really be nervous about something like that, but that thought does have some merit.  I think this is what happened with Caleb Wagner of Muskego last year.  I think he would have been set for Whitewater or Point but got a lot of exposure playing well at the state tournament last year, Winona St noticed.

[Just Bill]

It would make me nervous if a nice recruit like Alex Ohde (CFMcDonnell) (RF recruit) makes it to the state Tournament.  I would think that all of that extra exposure might make him vulnerable to change his mind. 

What say you Fredfalcon?

It certainly does happen. I know a lot of coaches secretly hope their recruits don't make it so they don't get the extra exposure.

[stoutguy]

It would make me nervous if a nice recruit like Alex Ohde (CFMcDonnell) (RF recruit) makes it to the state Tournament.  I would think that all of that extra exposure might make him vulnerable to change his mind. 

What say you Fredfalcon?

It certainly does happen. I know a lot of coaches secretly hope their recruits don't make it so they don't get the extra exposure.

Throw in the fact that EC North's best player (Also RF recruit) was just a few shots away from upsetting Stevens Point in sectional final.  Coaches do secretly hope these types of things sometimes.  I remember hoping (secretly) that my football team would not qualitfy for state (they did) as I had 7 kids on that team that I wanted to be Practicing basketball and not getting hurt on the big stage!

[Greek Tragedy]

Point beat topped ranked and previously undefeated Oshkosh North in the sectional final. Eau Claire North lost to SPASH in the sectional semis.

Anyway, I haven't seen too many any "...will be attending UWSP next Fall...."

Concerning that this cloud over Point's head is really effecting recruiting and possibly the long-term effect on the program. Looks like we have another 1-2 months before we have a final decision. It will be interesting if Semling is on the sidelines next year. Something tells me he won't be.

[tomt4525]

Point beat topped ranked and previously undefeated Oshkosh North in the sectional final. Eau Claire North lost to SPASH in the sectional semis.

Anyway, I haven't seen too many any "...will be attending UWSP next Fall...."

Concerning that this cloud over Point's head is really effecting recruiting and possibly the long-term effect on the program. Looks like we have another 1-2 months before we have a final decision. It will be interesting if Semling is on the sidelines next year. Something tells me he won't be.

If you've followed when Point normally gets their recruits announcing for UWSP, it is normally later in the recruiting season.  They have recruited fringe scholarship kids due to their tradition, so those kids are going to wait as long as possible on possible scholarship options.  They have also gotten a few transfers the last couple years, and those don't normally become public until after the semester is over as they are finishing up with their school before they move on.

With that said, I do think this has been a dark cloud over UWSP as far as recruiting goes.  Kids aren't committing to a school if they don't know who the coach is, that's where UWSP is at.  It's not a great situation for recruiting, but atleast Point is returning a bunch of guys along with adding a transfer who wasn't eligible last season.

Your thought that Semling will not be on the sidelines next season is also my thought.

[Greek Tragedy]

Your presumption is that they all return. Obviously a lot has to be disclosed, but I bet you that not all of them return depending if Semling is here or not. Also, will there be another year or two of postseason ineligibility?

Well, I will end my part of this conversation here as I don't want to annoy the non-Pointer masses. I would hate for someone to get sick of hearing about this again now and then again in the late Spring or early Summer. My apologies.

[tomt4525]

Your presumption is that they all return. Obviously a lot has to be disclosed, but I bet you that not all of them return depending if Semling is here or not. Also, will there be another year or two of postseason ineligibility?

Well, I will end my part of this conversation here as I don't want to annoy the non-Pointer masses. I would hate for someone to get sick of hearing about this again now and then again in the late Spring or early Summer. My apologies.

That is true, there is that possibility of guys choosing not to return if given the chance due to more penalties.  If Semling doesn't return, my guess would be that Dernbach would replace him.  The kids already in the program would be comfortable with him taking over.  If the program is handed over to someone outside the program, we can revisit it then but I could see quite a few players changing scenery in that case.

If you have been around the players, they all seem very invested in the UWSP program.  For them to leave, drastic things would have to happen.  By drastic, I mean either a coach takes over they have zero history with or they are hit with more postseason bans.  If those things don't happen, I would expect everyone back.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Your presumption is that they all return. Obviously a lot has to be disclosed, but I bet you that not all of them return depending if Semling is here or not. Also, will there be another year or two of postseason ineligibility?

Well, I will end my part of this conversation here as I don't want to annoy the non-Pointer masses. I would hate for someone to get sick of hearing about this again now and then again in the late Spring or early Summer. My apologies.

That is true, there is that possibility of guys choosing not to return if given the chance due to more penalties.  If Semling doesn't return, my guess would be that Dernbach would replace him.  The kids already in the program would be comfortable with him taking over.  If the program is handed over to someone outside the program, we can revisit it then but I could see quite a few players changing scenery in that case.

If you have been around the players, they all seem very invested in the UWSP program.  For them to leave, drastic things would have to happen.  By drastic, I mean either a coach takes over they have zero history with or they are hit with more postseason bans.  If those things don't happen, I would expect everyone back.

Does the WIAC still have the waiting period for in-conference transfers?  That feels like it would weigh heavily.  Would guys be willing to sit out a year? Head to some other conference?  It's not an ideal situation for transfers.

[Greek Tragedy]

I believe they do, Ryan.

Congrats to Alex Herink for making the NABC All-American 3rd team.

http://nabc.com/NABC_Releases/2017/d3_all_america.

[John Gleich]

Your presumption is that they all return. Obviously a lot has to be disclosed, but I bet you that not all of them return depending if Semling is here or not. Also, will there be another year or two of postseason ineligibility?

Well, I will end my part of this conversation here as I don't want to annoy the non-Pointer masses. I would hate for someone to get sick of hearing about this again now and then again in the late Spring or early Summer. My apologies.

That is true, there is that possibility of guys choosing not to return if given the chance due to more penalties.  If Semling doesn't return, my guess would be that Dernbach would replace him.  The kids already in the program would be comfortable with him taking over.  If the program is handed over to someone outside the program, we can revisit it then but I could see quite a few players changing scenery in that case.

If you have been around the players, they all seem very invested in the UWSP program.  For them to leave, drastic things would have to happen.  By drastic, I mean either a coach takes over they have zero history with or they are hit with more postseason bans.  If those things don't happen, I would expect everyone back.

Does the WIAC still have the waiting period for in-conference transfers?  That feels like it would weigh heavily.  Would guys be willing to sit out a year? Head to some other conference?  It's not an ideal situation for transfers.

Here is the WIAC transfer policy:

13.5 Intraconference Transfers. Student-athletes who have been charged with fewer than two (2) seasons
of participation are eligible immediately upon transferring to another conference institution provided
they have met all other applicable transfer requirements. Any student-athlete who has been charged
with two (2) or more seasons of participation (which may be nonconsecutive) at a single WIAC
institution must establish a (one) year of residency (see 13.3.1) in order to be eligible to compete in that
sport upon transferring from one conference institution to another. A season of participation regained as
a result of an approved medical-hardship is not considered a season of participation in the application of
this bylaw. [Revised 6/1/06, 4/15/14]

So not everyone would necessarily have to sit out a year. I don't know if there are (automatic) exceptions to this rule if a head coach leaves or is not retained.

[iwumichigander]

Your presumption is that they all return. Obviously a lot has to be disclosed, but I bet you that not all of them return depending if Semling is here or not. Also, will there be another year or two of postseason ineligibility?

Well, I will end my part of this conversation here as I don't want to annoy the non-Pointer masses. I would hate for someone to get sick of hearing about this again now and then again in the late Spring or early Summer. My apologies.

That is true, there is that possibility of guys choosing not to return if given the chance due to more penalties.  If Semling doesn't return, my guess would be that Dernbach would replace him.  The kids already in the program would be comfortable with him taking over.  If the program is handed over to someone outside the program, we can revisit it then but I could see quite a few players changing scenery in that case.

If you have been around the players, they all seem very invested in the UWSP program.  For them to leave, drastic things would have to happen.  By drastic, I mean either a coach takes over they have zero history with or they are hit with more postseason bans.  If those things don't happen, I would expect everyone back.

Does the WIAC still have the waiting period for in-conference transfers?  That feels like it would weigh heavily.  Would guys be willing to sit out a year? Head to some other conference?  It's not an ideal situation for transfers.

Here is the WIAC transfer policy:

13.5 Intraconference Transfers. Student-athletes who have been charged with fewer than two (2) seasons
of participation are eligible immediately upon transferring to another conference institution provided
they have met all other applicable transfer requirements. Any student-athlete who has been charged
with two (2) or more seasons of participation (which may be nonconsecutive) at a single WIAC
institution must establish a (one) year of residency (see 13.3.1) in order to be eligible to compete in that
sport upon transferring from one conference institution to another. A season of participation regained as
a result of an approved medical-hardship is not considered a season of participation in the application of
this bylaw. [Revised 6/1/06, 4/15/14]

So not everyone would necessarily have to sit out a year. I don't know if there are (automatic) exceptions to this rule if a head coach leaves or is not retained.

Any chance WIAC would waive the requirement under NCAA imposed circumstances?

[ShineTime]

Has anyone heard that Amherst basketball coach Greg Jensen is interested in coaching uwsp?  What are thoughts on if he were coaching D3 college?

[tomt4525]

River Falls doesn't have to worry about scholarship schools coming after Ohde based on his performance at state this morning.

[Coaching Hoops]

Point beat topped ranked and previously undefeated Oshkosh North in the sectional final. Eau Claire North lost to SPASH in the sectional semis.

Anyway, I haven't seen too many any "...will be attending UWSP next Fall...."

Concerning that this cloud over Point's head is really effecting recruiting and possibly the long-term effect on the program. Looks like we have another 1-2 months before we have a final decision. It will be interesting if Semling is on the sidelines next year. Something tells me he won't be.

I was at that SPASH/ONorth game and did see Semling there with his UWSP garb on. I don't think he'd be out working the recruits if he wasn't planning a return. That said, strange things happen sometimes!