MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[stoutguy]

I don't think he played.  Their star center is a pre-season 1st team all american, so apparently he's really good.  La Crosse beat St. Thomas and the first thing that was said was that the guy didnt' play.  I thought it sounded like that was the big reason St. Thomas lost.  I got a lot of grief for it! lol (I think it was the top 25 board).  Anyway, St. Thomas seems to be the real deal and really misses the guy, as would any team with a 1st team all american missing.

Our guys played against him in a Twin Cities league this summer and he is the real deal.  On another matter, I'm too lazy to check this myself, but does anyone know what the WIAC record is this season against the CCIW?  I'm hoping to get Pat Coleman on the radio show this Sat. and we WIAC guys tend to think our WIAC can't be beaten.   It seems to me that this year's CCIW is pretty darn good.

[John Gleich]

In 2006 (the year, including last year's NCAA tournament) the CCIW beat the WIAC in every game except for Dec 30th, Point's win at home against Augustana.

[Greek Tragedy]

If UW-Stevens Point is a legit top 5 team, they'll handle Augie today at home.  If they do not, the CCIW will have the 2006 calendar year sweep of the WIAC, and you don't want that!


@Elmhurst 98, UW-Whitewater 91 (12/17/06)

@Elmhurst 55, UW-Oshkosh 52 (12/5/06)

IWU 69, @UW-Whitewater 68 OT (11/18/06)

IWU 85, @UW-Whitewater 71 (3/4/06)*

@Augustana 77, UW-Stout 70 (3/4/06)*

* NCAA Tournament

Then add Point's win.

[Mr. Downtown]

I think your right. I'm just kinda tired of myself and many others at Oshkosh that when one problem is solved, we have to find another.

I've been watching Gibson play since middle school. On Offense the guy was a tree before he came to Oshkosh. He had maybe one "move", and never dominated down low. Which, one would have to assume he would being one of the very few 7 footers in Wisconsin, but he never did.

What TVD has done with Gibson has impressed the hell out of me. Yes, Gibson to many seems like he's not hitting his true potential, but you have to agree with me he's a much better basketball player now then he ever was in Oshkosh.

Does experience come into play here? I think with many basketball players, the answer would be yes. In Gibson's case, I think its something different then just experience, and that's Gibson believing he can take his man to the basket every time he's in a one on one situation. I don't think experience plays as big of a part as confidence does.

The problem I have JJ cutting to the basket, or anyone for that matter, is that it seems that teams are doubling Gibson coming from the paint, and they collapse defensively in the paint to prevent the cut.

Something to look out for against Platteville. If the paint is open, then yes, Oshkosh should send cutters. But the more I think about this possiblity the more I can see the visual highlights of teams constantly collapsing to the paint defensively, allowing the shooters to be open on the outside.

I feel bad for Platteville. It's not a good time to be playing Oshkosh, especially in Oshkosh, and when Skemp is gone for the season (would'va like to know that before I picked in my WIAC fantasy league!!!  ) I have no idea how Platteville is going to attack Gibson.

Best of luck Pioneers. You'll need it tonight.

[Greek Tragedy]

The problem I have JJ cutting to the basket, or anyone for that matter, is that it seems that teams are doubling Gibson coming from the paint, and they collapse defensively in the paint to prevent the cut.

Something to look out for against Platteville. If the paint is open, then yes, Oshkosh should send cutters. But the more I think about this possiblity the more I can see the visual highlights of teams constantly collapsing to the paint defensively, allowing the shooters to be open on the outside.

I'll disagree a little here!

Not only do I think players should cut to the basket (even if it means another player in the paint), but they should actually MOVE a little too.  I've seen Oshkosh play several times this year (they are the closest WIAC school for me) and when Gibson gets the ball in the post, other players just stand where they are, possibly waiting for him to go to the rim or just waiting for the ball to be passed to them so they can shoot a three pointer. 

The problem I see with this is because they are already defended, unless Gibson throws the ball across court and then the ball is moved quickly.  As much as you don't want a guy cutting to the basket because there is a double already in the post, that doesn't mean the guy won't be open.  The defender that is doubling from the paint isn't looking at the cutter, he's looking at Gibson.  A quick pass through the hands our around the waste to a cutting player that has a higher percentage shot with a layup is better than throwing it out to Cappelle or whomever for a 3, IMO.

Usually the guy doubling is the guy originally guarding the furthest player.  Have the guy at the top of the key cut in...at the very least, it draws that defender with him and then the guy open (his opponent is doubling) moves to the top of the key.  Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm helping Oshkosh! lol.

[OshDude]

There's no comparing Gibby as a freshman and now. It's night and day. Someone is bound to find this negative, but there's a reason why a 7-footer is playing D3 basketball. Your prep school insights back that up. I give him a lot of credit. Get this, I give TVD credit for sticking with him. He's a better player than I thought he'd be. He's in a good position at Oshkosh because he does not have to score 20 a night. I saw on a Web site where he is projected to be a second-round NBA pick! I'll leave that alone too, but to even have that mentioned is a credit to his confidence. Talking to him now, he wants to be the man. In past years, he wasn't so sure.
If they can keep their egos in check better than last year (and get a bit better), a nice tourney run is not out of the question.
Platteville will need 40 combined out of Lohoff and Tetschlag tonight. If Goose is out, that 40 might not be enough. I'm with you, DT. I don't think that's happening.

[Pioneer Hoops Fan]

The problem I have JJ cutting to the basket, or anyone for that matter, is that it seems that teams are doubling Gibson coming from the paint, and they collapse defensively in the paint to prevent the cut.

Something to look out for against Platteville. If the paint is open, then yes, Oshkosh should send cutters. But the more I think about this possiblity the more I can see the visual highlights of teams constantly collapsing to the paint defensively, allowing the shooters to be open on the outside.

I'll disagree a little here!

Not only do I think players should cut to the basket (even if it means another player in the paint), but they should actually MOVE a little too.  I've seen Oshkosh play several times this year (they are the closest WIAC school for me) and when Gibson gets the ball in the post, other players just stand where they are, possibly waiting for him to go to the rim or just waiting for the ball to be passed to them so they can shoot a three pointer. 

The problem I see with this is because they are already defended, unless Gibson throws the ball across court and then the ball is moved quickly.  As much as you don't want a guy cutting to the basket because there is a double already in the post, that doesn't mean the guy won't be open.  The defender that is doubling from the paint isn't looking at the cutter, he's looking at Gibson.  A quick pass through the hands our around the waste to a cutting player that has a higher percentage shot with a layup is better than throwing it out to Cappelle or whomever for a 3, IMO.

Usually the guy doubling is the guy originally guarding the furthest player.  Have the guy at the top of the key cut in...at the very least, it draws that defender with him and then the guy open (his opponent is doubling) moves to the top of the key.  Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm helping Oshkosh! lol.

I agree with OS.  When players stand around they're too guardable (if that makes any sense).  When the ball goes into the post whether there is a double team or not, the other four should move to free each other up.  The more movement, the harder it is for the defense to recover to open jump shooters, cutters, and sometimes more importantly non-boxed out offensive rebounders.  The offense has to make the defense work, and not cutting and standing around will not get it done.

Go Pioneers!!!!

[badgerwarhawk]

Eau Claire leads through the first 7-8 minutes until a pair of free throws by Andy Fruend gives WW their first lead 13-12.  EC regained the lead for a possession but the WARHAWKS stormed back with a 15-2 run and a 12 point cushion which EC narrowed to 9 points at half, 36-27.

Jason Price has leads WW scorers with 15 points, including 3 three-pointers.  Dustin Mitchell has 7.    Jarrod Bardon leads EC with 12.   Only a total of 9 fouls called this half. 

[John Gleich]

Oshkosh leads Platte at the half 37-22

[UWPSUPERFAN77]

My undermanned Pioneers are getting overwhelmed tonight by no rebounding due to No G0ssens and Skemp. I hope Goose is back for Saturday against Superior. A 21 to 2 run at the end of the first half ended my hopes for an upset. I will be sitting behind the bench on Saturday rooting for a doubleheader win. Some observations from the radio: The Oshkosh Super fan is very amusing, he yells and yells. What does this guy do for a living, you almost get the play by play by listening to him. Why does UWO not draw more fans? You guys in Oshkosh do not know how well you have it. Why did not the conference play a doubleheader with School out? My Lady Pioneers are driving up to Oshkosh tomorrow to play the lady Titans? I know the conference has a rotation for Doubleheaders, but what about saving some of my Tax money on Gasoline! Happy New Year and God Bless!

[badgerwarhawk]

EC scores first in the second half but that's the closest they'd get.  WW cruises the rest of the way building leads up to 23 points before closing it out 81-61.  Jason Price leads all scorers with 20 points.  Andy Fruend adds 12 and Rob Perry 11.   Jarrod Bardon leads EC with 19.  

Once they took the lead the WARHAWKS were never really threatened in this one.

[bulk19]

OK buf -
Putting you on the hot spot - give us the silver lining for our Blugolds tonight...

[fredfalcon]

RF 93, Finlandia 54 in ho-hum game. Koonkaew w/ 19, Robertson and Thompson w/13 in unofficial stats.

[buf]

OK buf -
Putting you on the hot spot - give us the silver lining for our Blugolds tonight...

Do you want my version or Mythical Bird's version? 

[Greek Tragedy]

Pretty easy win for Oshkosh tonight. 79-58

UWP ranked 21st in the NCAA Div. III by D3hoops.com...Trailing 20-16, UWO
outscores UWP, 21-2, the final 7:26 of first half as the Pioneers miss all
five shots from field and have five turnovers...Capelle and Gibson play in
60th UWO victory (92 games)...UWO's largest lead was 72-49 with 4:56 to play.


Platteville definitely missed Skemp and Gossens.  Gibson didn't play much and since he's on my fantasy team, that upsets me! lol

I came in about 5 minutes late, but plan on watching the track meet on Thursday.  I urge anyone in the area to come watch Grinnell.  It's a blast.  Hopefully I'll run into Mr. DT and TRus then.

I'll let the homers give their take of the game.