MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

By the way, BadgerWarhawk, check your facts before you criticize. Combined record of Eau Claire's non-conference opponents is 59-57 (and, yes, that's counting Finlandia three times):

   Grinnell     8-2
   Aurora     10-3
   Hamline     6-6
  Finlandia    5-9
   St. Scholastica  3-8
   Finlandia    5-9
   Marian       7-5
  Jamestown 10-6
  Finalndia    5-9

Just for reference, let's check the records of the mighty Warhawks' NC opponents:

   Eureka      2-9
   MSOE        7-6
   Carroll      6-3
   Olivet       4-7
   Cardinal Stritch  6-8
   St. John's   7-5
   Rockford    0-12
   North Central  6-6

   TOTAL        38-56!!

I stand by my statement.

Could you point out which part of my post it is that implied I thought the WARHAWKS played a tough nonconference schedule or one that was tougher than Eau Claire's.  I didn't even say we were mighty.

Read my comment again and you'll see that I didn't even say that your comment was incorrect.  It's probably entirely true.  I simply commented on the relative strength of the two compared to one another.  If you want to think that Hamline, Aurora, St Scholastica, Marian and Findlandia (X3) are quality nonconference opponents because their record is better than our opponents have at it.  

Relax, man.  You're reading way too much into my comment.

[BBGUY]

So how was Marsh shut down?  Great defense (3-11 shooting, right?) or just an "off night"?

They must have kept Matt Miller in check too, he didn't score until the 2nd half.  Skemp "sounded" like he was dominant.  DSA gets his 4th with 13 minutes to go, did I read that right? 

Sounds like Platteville had a good game plan, probably from reading our posts!! LOL. 
1. Stop DJ,
2. get DSA into foul trouble,
3. slow down Miller.

[BBGUY]

Oshkosh doesn't seem to have anyone tall enough to contain centers like Skemp. That will be a factor as the season wears on, especially in the WIAC tourney.

[cubs]

So now that Oshkosh beat Point anyone want to wager when the next time we will see BBGUY around next?  Looking back at his old posts, I am guessing it will be the next time UWO loses. 

Now if I could only do as well in the Pick'em league.......

[Pioneer Hoops Fan]

So now that Oshkosh beat Point anyone want to wager when the next time we will see BBGUY around next?  Looking back at his old posts, I am guessing it will be the next time UWO loses. 

Now if I could only do as well in the Pick'em league.......

Now thats funny 

[Mr. Downtown]

I think the only thing that Oshkosh brought home with them after their win at Quandt was Point's cold shooting night.

I was at the radio station, but the broadcasters would frequently mention how many open shots that Oshkosh missed.

This was the single game that every Oshkosh fan was worried about, and for good reason. Skemp just throws everything off, offensively and defensively.

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Conference Tourney (if it ended today)

1   Platteville   4-1 
8   River Falls   1-4

4  Superior       2-2
5  Eau Claire    2-2

3  Whitewater           4-1
6  Stevens Point        2-2

2  Oshkosh        4-1
7  La Crosse      1-3


*Currently, with Superior's victory over EC, they hold the tie breaker (head to head) while EC holds the tiebreaker over Point for having a better record against the team's ahead of them (EC 1-1, W vs Platt, L vs Super; SP 0-2, L vs Osh & WW).

Now, let's say, 10 games later it looks like this, I would be shocked.

Then again, I shouldn't cause this is the WIAC.

I'm jumping on Oldschool's bandwagon that this year's champ will have 4 losses. I would be surprised to see the Pioneers on on the road and win at Point, especially the way the Pointers played last night. Oshkosh heading up to the "Hive" is also kinda scary.  And the poor Warhawks have to play another WIAC road game, this time at Zorn.

Shoot, we could see everyone in the WIAC have at least conference losses after Saturday.

[phoenix_rising]

Oshkosh heading up to the "Hive" is also kinda scary

Music to my ears. I'm choosing to assume this fear is about the game and not about getting lost in a snowstorm and ending up in the Northwest Territories, lost and alone on a bus with, like, no pizza or anything.

More than anything, I hope it's a GOOD game. I think the Soups played good games in Platteville and Whitewater--wasn't there, don't know. Can't hope for more than a good game.

[Pat Coleman]

read in today's USA Today, the Arizona (?) women's basketball team ended the game with just TWO players on the court!  I think they only suited up 6 because of injuries, academics etc.

I thought there was a minimum number of players required to constitute a 'team' on the court. In everything else, there's a quorum, I can't believe basketball doesn't have one. In one league tournament my older daughter played in as a youngster, the officials let her play after she fouled out, because her team didn't have anyone left to replace her. I think she got about eight fouls in that game (once they let you play with five, what's the incentive to stop fouling?).

You just need two players.

Really, you can play the game with one, but it's awful hard to inbounds the ball.

[John Gleich]

P_R,

I played in a summer tournament in High School where they let players play beyond 5 fouls...  They didn't tell us they were allowing this until I got my 6th foul in a tight game, and they called both a foul and a technical.  Lost us the game... but they didn't let us know how many fouls I had!  We had plenty of other players on the bench, too!


bgbacker/BW,

Accoding the the Massey Ratings, Eau Claire has the 113th toughest schedule in the country and Whitewater has the 138th toughest.  Compare this with Oshkosh (6), Point (18), Platteville (123), LaX (28), RF (208), Superior (315), and Stout (62).  So EC's is about middle of the road in the WIAC, and actually tougher than WW's.

If you check out Massey, the WIAC isn't ranked as high as usual in conference.  The non-con record record was only 51-26 for about 66% winning percentage.  That's not as good as it has been previously... in past years it's been upwards of 80%.


Also, looking at some of the NCAA stats, Superior is leading the country in assist to TO ratio and they're doing it merely by not turning the ball over... they're 3rd in the country with just 10.2 TO's per contest.  La Crosse is #4 with 11.0 and Point is #6 with 11.2.  That's a bunch of teams really taking care of the ball well!

[OshDude]

I was surprised to see so many fans at Kolf last night, especially during a break.

I'm guessing some of it had to with four former Oshkosh HS players on the court, but an interim crowd of 1,015 is encouraging. I hope the UWO loss doesn't hurt attendance in the near future because it almost felt like a real crowd last night. Of course there were 4,000+ empty seats, but it was progress.

Anyone in the neighborhood tomorrow night should check out Kolf for the Oshkosh West/Oshkosh North HS games. Seeing 5,500 people crammed in there is pretty sweet.

[badgerwarhawk]

P_R,



bgbacker/BW,

Accoding the the Massey Ratings, Eau Claire has the 113th toughest schedule in the country and Whitewater has the 138th toughest.  Compare this with Oshkosh (6), Point (18), Platteville (123), LaX (28), RF (208), Superior (315), and Stout (62).  So EC's is about middle of the road in the WIAC, and actually tougher than WW's.

I'm befuddled how anyone can read my original comment and deduce that I implied anything about their schedule relative to ours.   The only thing I implied, actually stated, was that their schedule last year must have been really weak.  

What did Massey rank their '06-'07 schedule?  If it was worse than 113th bgbacker's comment would be spot on.  

[mab]

We did get to see a new era in UWO basketball start last night with the debut of the new titan mascot.  I just hope taxpayers didn't have to pay a few hundred thousand dollars for the costume ... and lightning bolt.  I think that might have been titan2000 inside there. 

Also, I would have to respectfully disagree with Mr.Downtown about last nights game.  Platteville played with more intensity defensively than the titans have faced this year, especially in the first half(the possible exception being Augustana).  Then, for a period in the second half, Skemp turned into a dominating force on both ends of the court, and Oshkosh just doesn't have the horsepower to deal with that.  If Platteville plays with that same intensity on Saturday, I wouldn't be surprised to see them win at Point.  Skemp probably won't score as much as last night, because Point collapses into the paint when the ball goes in there more so than UWO does, but that will open up the perimeter game more, and Platteville has a lot of really good shooters.  That should be a great game, and it could have a big bearing on who finishes first and second at the end of the conference season.

[John Gleich]

P_R,



bgbacker/BW,

Accoding the the Massey Ratings, Eau Claire has the 113th toughest schedule in the country and Whitewater has the 138th toughest.  Compare this with Oshkosh (6), Point (18), Platteville (123), LaX (28), RF (208), Superior (315), and Stout (62).  So EC's is about middle of the road in the WIAC, and actually tougher than WW's.

I'm befuddled how anyone can read my original comment and deduce that I implied anything about their schedule relative to ours.   The only thing I implied, actually stated, was that their schedule last year must have been really weak.  

What did Massey rank their '06-'07 schedule?  If it was worse than 113th bgbacker's comment would be spot on.  

My comment wasn't addressing yours so much as BG's. 

I can't get the stats from just DIII from last year, but for all of college basketball, EC was ranked 835 and WW ranked 663 FWIW.

[badgerwarhawk]

Also wondering what happened in LaCrosse as Whitewater steals a win 65-62.  How did this one finish exactly?  Looked like the Eagles were up big at one time.

LaCrosse led by 12 in the first half but it was 7 at the half and that was their biggest lead of the second half.  WW first tied the game with about 12 1/2 minutes remaining.  After that it see-sawed back and forth until LaCrosse took a 4 point lead with alittle over 4 minutes to go.  In the final four minutes LaCrosse went 1-5 from the floor and had two turnovers while WW got a free throw, a three pointer and another pair of free throws to go up by two before Tony Mane tied it with a jumper.  But 18 seconds remained and Goodwin drilled a three pointer at the buzzer to steal it for the WARHAWKS.

Goodwin put in 21 to lead all scorers.  Rob Perry added 12 and Kori Vernon another 10 to round out double figure scorers for the WARHAWKS.  WHITEWATER shot an abysmal 38% from the floor vs 50% for LaCrosse.   Fortunately we were 21/31 from the free throw line compared to 5-7 for the Eagle.  

Tony Mane paced LaCrosse with 17 points.  He's got game.  

[Pioneer Hoops Fan]

BW:

Whitewater must have really focused on Kegler in the second half, because he had 11 at the half (I believe), and ended with 11. 

When you're shooting poorly it always is nice when the last one goes in...especially if it ends the game.  That could be a big boost going into Saturday.

MAB:

Good to hear your thoughts on the Pioneers.  They play hard.  Seeing Jeff play 38 minutes last night was a nice sign, because it seems foul trouble keeps him limited, or at times he just isn't playing to his potential.  I hope last night was a sign of good things to come for him and the Pioneers.  Platteville plays with a lot of intensity and emotion.  They tend to wear emotions right on their sleeves for all to see.  I enjoy watching them play because of this and because, to me, they seem to get more excited for a teammates' success versus personal success.