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phoenix_rising

Must have been quite the intramural game in Eau Claire last night.

I was trying to follow the play by play and in the last minute, the announcer said Superior was up by ten; EC made a three, and then Superior was up by five (! a five-point shot?!); then, with the score at 88-80, EC made a basket at the buzzer, so I'm telling people Superior won by six. Final score was 88-81? Was there a whole new scoring set-up at Zorn last night or was the announcer possibly watching Everybody Loves Raymond and paying only marginal attention to the game?

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Quote from: OshDude on January 30, 2008, 11:01:12 PM
EDIT: UWO's shooting stats were horrible. How much of that was PV defense? If there's anything UWO does well, it's shoot the ball. They didn't even do well from the line. Hope it's one to just turn the page and move on.

Yes it was.  The Pioneers were all over the floor.  When I said before that Marsh couldn't make a lay up, they most certainly were not uncontested bunnies.  Charlie and Bo were guarding him, and as I said before he pretty much posted up all the time.  When Marsh would make a post move, Charlie or Bo were always between him and the basket, plus I think Marsh could see Skemp coming out the of the corner of his eye and adjusted his shot a bit.  This also allowed DSA to get a few easy put backs on the weak side of the hoop.

Miller has a quick trigger and most certainly wasn't afraid to shoot it.  Curt Hanson had him all night, and did a good job of slowing his penetration, and getting trough ball screens and now allow a quick shot.  One time in the second half, DSA sets a ball screen for Miller.  Jeff ends up having to switch defenders, so now Skemp is on Miller, and Hanson is guarding DSA in the post.  Miller couldn't get enough space between him and Jeff for a lob in the post, and when he thought he had enough space to shoot, Jeff put the ball in the fifth row.  Same possesion Pioneers force Johnson to shoot a 24 ft off balance 3 at the end of the shot clock, only for it to go off the rim and Schrimpf run it down.

badgerwarhawk

#6062
The WARHAWKS started slow and LaCrosse built a 9 point lead, 15-6, in the first 7 1/2 minutes of the game.   But over the next four minutes WHITEWATER caught up and took their first lead of the game 18-17.   LaCrosse would never get closer than three points after that as the WARHAWKS increased the lead to eleven, 37-26 at the half.   WHITEWATER took off in the second half and within the first four to five minutes had pushed the lead to twenty.  It got as large as twentythree a few times in the second half before LaCrosse whittled it down to the final 80-67.

WW had five players finish in double figures with Goodwin leading the way with 16 points.  McKay added 15, Vernon 14, Kolinske 13 and Koski 10.   WW also dominated the boards with a 38-26 advantage.  Vernon led with 7 while Goodwin, Kolinske and Dustin Mitchell added 6 apiece.   Mitchell also had 4 blocks.  

Andrew Haas and Tony Mane paced LaCrosse with 18 and 14 respectively.



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Quote from: uwm/uww on January 31, 2008, 09:29:10 AM
Quote from: UWRF on January 31, 2008, 08:41:32 AM

DJ Reese didnt play for the Falcons last night and I am not sure why.


I heard the Reese is done for the year due to grades? Too bad, he hurt UWW with his 3s at crunch time. They could have been the upset team of the WIAC if he was still playing.

UWW was a different team last night from the one that played at La Crosse. I asked a player what the difference was and he said that you sit on a bus for 3 hours and then go play a game not a good situation but the whole conference dose it. He also said if they stay overnight, they play better (Superior). Perry has been saying all along that he would play again this year and from what he said last night, he may be right.

I does suck getting of a long bus ride, but you're right everyone has to.  The Pioneers play Superior, Stout, and River Falls on Saturdays, so they stay up there Friday night.  Since they are double headers, the guys also prefer to play the early game, versus the second game...which has been discussed in here earlier this year.

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Concerning my WIAC Fantasy Team, my roster is falling apart with Dijon Reese not playing.

About the Oshkosh/Platteville game, what discerns me so much about this game and following the stats is how Curt Hanson and Charlie Lohoff were shooting. We were praising the wonderful back court defense from Matt Miller, DJ Marsh, and Greg Schrimpf, and then here comes Platteville and we can't guard any of them!

If Oshkosh and Platteville meet again, TVD has to change it up a bit. I'm sorry, but the only way Oshkosh is going to have a shot to beat Platteville is to play some D, and last night, DSA and JJ did a good job down low, but man, if Hanson and Lohoff go off on you then the chances of beating Platteville get pretty slim.

By the way, it hurts extra when Lohoff went to Oshkosh North.

badgerwarhawk

Platteville's outside shooting has been very solid lately.  Prior to our game with them they'd averaged almost 50% from beyond the arc in the prior six games.  Which is exactly the reason we chose not to double down on Skemp and try to defend the perimeter more aggressively.  Unfortunately Skemp had free rein of the lane, was too strong for any of us to control and made us pay.   

Miller had to make a choice in how to defend against them and it wasn't a matter of him not getting the memo as the WSJ reporter so cleverly suggested.  It was a matter of picking your poisen.   It's not possible to do both against Platteville when they are playing well. 

This is why I stated last week that I thought Platteville has the best inside/outside combination in the league. 
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UWRF

If you're right and Reese is out for the year with grades that would be devastating for the Falcons. 

Coach Berkhof can't catch a break this year with his team.

-Koonkeaw goes out with injury.
-Had St. Thomas down by 10 in the first half and lost.
-Platteville hits a 3 with 8 secs left to to take first lead in almost 20 mins.
-Take WW to OT then play uninspired ball and lose by 8 or so, and this is after Kelly hit a 3 with 2 secs left for the tie.
-Superior buzzer beater hits every part of the rim and falls threw for the win.
-Reese is lost with grades, potentially.
-Your two "senior leaders" are underachieving (wright and davis).
-Robertson can't finish to save his life, could easily be averaging 20 a game.

Its been a tough year to be a Falcon fan.
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All very good points.....

but......

A Stout fan has not even been in games to even get our hopes up :)
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Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 31, 2008, 10:31:34 AM
 
Miller had to make a choice in how to defend against them and it wasn't a matter of him not getting the memo as the WSJ reporter so cleverly suggested.  It was a matter of picking your poisen.   It's not possible to do both against Platteville when they are playing well. 


Well, the Hawks have managed to lose the last two times at home to the Pioneers. When do they figure it out.  Last year they decided to go small against them and that didnt work. I thought Dustin Mitchell should have logged more minutes against P'ville, if nothing else, to provide a shotblocking/altering presence.  It was a game they should have won and it could cost them in the long run.

uwm/uww

Quote from: ItIsWhatItIs on January 31, 2008, 02:36:45 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 31, 2008, 10:31:34 AM
 
Miller had to make a choice in how to defend against them and it wasn't a matter of him not getting the memo as the WSJ reporter so cleverly suggested.  It was a matter of picking your poisen.   It's not possible to do both against Platteville when they are playing well. 


Well, the Hawks have managed to lose the last two times at home to the Pioneers. When do they figure it out.  Last year they decided to go small against them and that didnt work. I thought Dustin Mitchell should have logged more minutes against P'ville, if nothing else, to provide a shotblocking/altering presence.  It was a game they should have won and it could cost them in the long run.

I agree 100%. If Mitchel has played the 5 and King the 4 for more of the game, it would have been a better match up. If you watch the tape, when King & Mitchel were both in, the game was a lot different for Skemp. Also, UWW should have run, run, run as Skemp wasn't able to keep up with them when they did run. He was tired towards the end of the game and was bending over & hanging on to his shorts and breathing heavy...260lbs is a lot to bring up and down the court. Let's hope ,for the UWW fans that Miller watches the tape and creates a game plan that will work on UWP home court where it is always hard to win. Miller did it for UWL and it worked well.

OshDude

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Quote from: UWRF on January 31, 2008, 08:41:32 AM
Steven's Point totally dismantled the Falcons last night.  RF shot a dismal 28% from the floor on there home court.  And the Pointers were playing without Rortvedt

DJ Reese didnt play for the Falcons last night and I am not sure why.

To be honest, Stevens Point beating River Falls without Rortvedt doesn't matter, especially if Reese and Koonkaew don't play. The RF team that suited up last night isn't very good.

The next time Rortvedt's absence could be a factor is maybe at Superior or at Eau Claire (though I doubt it), but definitely against Whitewater in a few weeks. Even without Perry, I think WW is better than a SP team without Rortvedt.

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#6072
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 31, 2008, 10:31:34 AM
Platteville's outside shooting has been very solid lately.  Prior to our game with them they'd averaged almost 50% from beyond the arc in the prior six games.  Which is exactly the reason we chose not to double down on Skemp and try to defend the perimeter more aggressively.  Unfortunately Skemp had free rein of the lane, was too strong for any of us to control and made us pay.  

Here is Platteville shooting the ball since the conference season started again after Christmas.   In these games, the Pioneers are 6-1, having only lost to Point


Totals Overall 177/325 for 54.46%,  55/117 47.01% from "3"

In these games as well, Charlie Lohoff has started to play some solid basketball.  In these same games, he is shooting 36/55 total, good for 65.45% and 14/24 from "3" good for 58% and average 15ppg.  Curt has done his share, as has Mike Shaw, Nick Allen, Bo Richter, Josh Langenfeld.

Curt and Jeff are also averaging 15/game in the last 7.  Things are looking good, and I'm not quite sure they've played their best game yet.

Tried putting all the numbers up there, but it didn't work very well.

OshDude

#6073
I hope UWO somehow, via upsets, hosts the WIAC final because UWO is scheduled to host a WIAA D-I sectional final, which is also March 1.

Would make for a fun day of basketball for fans and a pain in butt for administration. Win-win, if you ask me.

Greek Tragedy

#6074
I'm guessing the WIAA would switch venues.

I was reading up on the boxscore of the Point/River Falls game and I was curious to know why Bryan Beamish was still playing with 5 minutes to go with a 35-point lead.  Honestly! lol...and Steve Hicklin (6:53 mark, up 35).

Quote from: UWRF on January 31, 2008, 08:41:32 AM
Has anyone ever really watched Greg Knox play? I've never seen anyone hack so much, it was unbelievable.  he came in for garbage time and was pushing and hold Courtney Davis all over.  None got called of course cause it didn't matter, but I was shocked by all the blatant pushes and holds.

Nick Krull made up for it.  He had 3 fouls in 5 minutes.
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