MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Mr. Downtown]

So, the computer say's I'm wrong.   

[OshDude]

For the first time all year, someone made Matty look like a SG playing PG. Shea made Miller skitish in the second half, which led to more turnovers than usual.

Three turnovers in 43 minutes doesn't seem too bad to me.....

Fofana and the rest of the bench were really impressive

Did the bench do some things that just don't show up in the box score?  The only reson I ask, is outside of Fofana, the numbers the EC bench put up aren't that much different that UWO's bench numbers, and we all know UWO's bench isn't too strong.

Were you there? Miller was shaky with the ball when pressured. Hard to dispute that if you ask me. DJ, Schrimpf or JJ brought the ball up quite a few times, only to hand it off to Miller in the front court.

The bench for EC was solid. No, most of it didn't show in the box score, but the runs EC had were in no small part thanks to solid bench minutes on both ends.

[Mr. Ypsi]

So, the computer say's I'm wrong.   

Don't be too quick to apologize! 

pabegg is working from his understanding of the new OWP/OOWP rules (and I doubt he is including all the other primary criteria for pool C selection).  We're all eager to see (probably no one more so than pabegg himself!) how accurately these computations do end up predicting the selection committee.  My sense would be that they are almost certainly the best we've currently got; but perfect? doubtful.

[Greek Tragedy]

This is last year's Pool C results...I also believe I listed the actual NCAA Regional Rankings.  The teams in bold won their conference's Automatic Qualifier.  Italics are Pool B winners.

Atlantic Region
1. (44) Stevens 21-6 21-6 (LOST in Skyline Semis) POOL C
2. (13) Ramapo 21-7 20-5 (Won NJAC AQ)
3. (39) Manhattanville 23-5 22-5 (Won Skyline AQ)
4. (55) New Jersey City 18-9 17-8 (LOST to Ramapo in NJAC Final)
5. (74) Rowan 20-6 15-6  (LOST to Ramapo in NJAC Semis)

East Region
1. (19) Brockport State 23-5 22-5 (LOST to Plattsburgh State in SUNYAC Final) POOL C
2. (15) St. John Fisher 22-5 21-5 (Won Empire 8 AQ)
3. (11) St. Lawrence 22-5 21-5 (Won Liberty League AQ)
4. (46) New York U. 19-6 18-6 (lost to Brandeis, needs a Pool C)
5. (20) Rochester 18-7 18-6 (beat Carnegie Mellon, still needs a Pool C) POOL C

Great Lakes Region
1. (4) Lake Erie 25-2 21-1 (Won AMCC AQ)
2. (27) Wooster 25-3 20-2 (Won NCAC AQ)
3. (31) John Carroll 19-9 18-7 (LOST to Capital in OAC Final) POOL C
4. (36) Hope 23-4 16-4 (LOST to Calvin in MIAA Final) POOL C
5. (52) Ohio Northern 19-7 14-7 (LOST to Otterbein in OAC Quarters)
6. (62) Wittenberg 22-5 17-5 (LOST to Ohio Wesleyan in NCAC Semis)

Middle Atlantic Region
1. (30) Johns Hopkins 22-4 21-3 (plays Haverford in Centennial Finals)
2. (32) Messiah 19-6 16-4 (LOST to Widener in MAC-Commonwealth Semis) POOL C
3. (42) Alvernia 23-4 22-2 (Won PnAC AQ)
4. (25) Lincoln (Pa.) 18-8 11-3-IND:  POOL B
5. (21) Catholic 22-5 21-5 (Won CAC AQ)
6. (40) Hood 21-7 20-6 (LOST to Catholic in CAC Final) POOL C
7. (37) King's (Pa.) 19-8 19-7 (Won MAC-Freedom AQ)
8. (45) Scranton 19-7 17-7 (LOST to DeSales in MAC-Freedom Semis)

Midwest Region
1. (12) Chicago 20-5 19-5 (LOST to Washington U., needs Pool C bid) POOL C
2. (18) Augustana 22-5 22-4 (Won CCIW AQ)
3. (9) Washington U. 12-4 18-4 (defeats Chicago in UAA, gets UAA AQ)
4. (14) Aurora 25-2 24-2 (Won NathCon Final:  POOL B
5. (57) Elmhurst 21-6 17-6 (LOST to Augustana in CCIW Final)
6. (73) Carthage 16-9 13-8 ([Reg. season complete, did not make CCIW tourney)
7. (64) Grinnell 17-7 16-7 (LOST to Lake Forest in MWC Semis)
8. (70) Wheaton (Ill.) 17-9 13-8 (LOST to Elmhurst in CCIW Semis)

Northeast Region
1. (2) Amherst 25-2 24-2 (LOST to Williams in NESCAC Final) POOL C
2. (8 ) Salem State 24-2 24-2 (Won MASCAC AQ)
3. (7) Trinity (Conn.) 21-4 17-4 (LOST to Williams in NESCAC Semis) POOL C
4. (3) WPI 22-3 20-3 (LOST to Coast Guard in NEWMAC Final) POOL C
5. (6) Rhode Island 24-3 24-3 (Won LEC AQ)
6. (26) Keene State 23-5 20-5 (LOST to Rhode Island in LEC Final) POOL C
7. (17) Brandeis 19-6 19-6 (defeated NYU, still needs a Pool C) POOL C
8. (47) Bates 18-7 17-7 (LOST to Amherst in NESCAC Quarters)
9. (49) Husson 22-6 22-4 (LOST to Elms in NAC Final)
10. (80) Western New England 19-8 19-8 (LOST to Emmanuel in GNAC Semis)

South Region
1. (10) Mississippi College 24-2 22-1 (plays Hardin-Simmons in ASC Final)
2. (24) Va. Wesleyan 23-4 22-4 (LOST to Hampden-Sydney in ODAC Semis) POOL C
3. (51) Guilford 21-4 20-4 (LOST to Bridgewater (Va) in ODAC Quarters) POOL C
4. (38) DePauw 22-5 19-4 (LOST to Trinity (TX) in SCAC Semis) POOL C
5. (43) Mary Hardin-Baylor 22-5 22-5 (LOST to Hardin-Simmons in ASC POOL CSemis;a 5-pt QOWI loss)
6. (33) Maryville (Tenn.) 21-6 21-3 (defeated LaGrange in GSAC Final)-POOL B
7. (23) Centre 22-4 16-4 (plays Trinity (TX) in SCAC Final)
8. (54) McMurry 20-7 19-5 (LOST to Mississippi College in ASC Semis)

West Region
1. (1) UW-Stevens Point 25-2 24-1 (Won WIAC AQ)
2. (5) St. Thomas 24-3 24-3 (Won MIAC AQ)
3. (23) St. John's 20-7 20-4 (LOST to St. Thomas in MIAC Final) POOL C
4. (34) UW-Oshkosh 21-6 18-6 (LOST to La Crosse in WIAC Semis)
5. (16) Occidental 19-5 14-3 (Won SCIAC AQ)
6. (28) Whitworth 23-3 20-3 (Won NWC AQ)
7. (29) Loras 21-6 19-4 (Won IIAC AQ)
8. (41) UW-La Crosse 19-8 17-7 (LOST to Stevens Point in WIAC Final)

[Mr. Downtown]

Is it just me, or were there a lot of East Coast teams in the tournament last year?

I think this season the West and Midwest Regions have demonstrated that with tough conference play and the combination of playing some of the Best teams that regions have to offer, that they should get more consideration for it.

Which, if they do, I think the West region would benefit from that point of view, and the WIAC conference reaps some of those benefits. But because this region has conference that are so tough that upsets are bound to happen.

I'll stand to my opinions for the West and Midwest Regions. I also know that a lot is going to change when conference tourney's start.

[cubs]

The bench for EC was solid. No, most of it didn't show in the box score, but the runs EC had were in no small part thanks to solid bench minutes on both ends.

They should also thank UWO's bench in part for their first run.....  

UWO was up by 10 when DSA, Schrimpf, and Miller went to the bench for a rest.  Next thing you know, 2:30 later the lead is down to three.  Timeout UWO, and the starters return and get the lead back up to 13 at the half.

[Pat Coleman]

Is it just me, or were there a lot of East Coast teams in the tournament last year?

There are a lot of East Coast teams in general. The Northeast region is the largest in Division III basketball.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Is it just me, or were there a lot of East Coast teams in the tournament last year?

I think this season the West and Midwest Regions have demonstrated that with tough conference play and the combination of playing some of the Best teams that regions have to offer, that they should get more consideration for it.

Which, if they do, I think the West region would benefit from that point of view, and the WIAC conference reaps some of those benefits. But because this region has conference that are so tough that upsets are bound to happen.

I'll stand to my opinions for the West and Midwest Regions. I also know that a lot is going to change when conference tourney's start.

Exactly.  The old QOWI took no account at all of (true) strength of schedule - just opponents' winning % (regardless of who they played).  With the addition of OOWP (opponents' opponents' winning %), those of us in such conferences as the WIAC and CCIW are hoping it will make a difference.

I suspect it will to a degree, but I also predict that at least 2 top-25 teams will be turning in their unis after Selection Sunday.  (And that at least one of them will be from the WIAC or CCIW.)

Saw Pat's comment before hitting 'post'.  Totally correct, but they also had some real advantages under QOWI that will (hopefully) by less so with OWP/OOWP.

[uwm/uww]

Can anyone tell me where to go to find out the broadcast schedule of WIAC games on FSN? I know Charter has some on demand but I was looking for the FSN Schedule.

Thanks in advance.

[Greek Tragedy]

The WIAC Weekly Release usually has a WIAC on TV section in it.

[uwm/uww]

The WIAC Weekly Release usually has a WIAC on TV section in it.

My mistake I didn't look on the home page only the BBall page. Thanks.

[frankiet]

Why didn't Jerrel Enerson-Matthews play hardly at all in the second half last night? He seemed to be the only one that was on for Stout in the first half.

[frodotwo]

About 50 seconds into the second half E-M was driving and came down awkwardly when fouled and hurt his knee. It didn't look good as trainers and the Pointer Orthopedic surgeon had to basically carry him to the locker room. He was basically the game for Stout up until that point. What his status is now I don't know and haven't heard, hope it is just a sprain and not something worse.

[Greek Tragedy]

some of you may not check the updates board, but LX is beating PL 59-56 with 1:55 to play.

[John Gleich]

Platte pulls it off 78-77, Kegler tipped the ball in at the buzzer to cut three point lead to one.

LaX had plenty of chances... a missed FT with 19 seconds could have forced Platte to hit a three to tie... but it wasnt' so. 

In the first OT, LaX jumped out to a 4 point lead but couldn't hold it.