MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Pat Coleman, February 24, 2005, 09:17:07 PM

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Greek Tragedy

I know little about D3 baseball and I realize this is the basketball board, but if I put it in the baseball board, I'll likely forget to go back there!

Anyway, how can a school host without being in the tourney?  For basketball, isn't there a rule stating a host site has to be with a participating school...

I remember several years ago when Lawrence and Point headed out to Puget Sound because the woman Pointers were hosting and Lawrence was deemed too small to host.  There was talk (not from anyone official) about having Oshkosh host, but that was never going to work out because of the rule.

I saw that Point is in the NCAA baseball tourney, but they are in the region that hosted by Oshkosh.  Also, Augustana is hosting and they aren't in the tourney either.
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Greek Tragedy

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badgerwarhawk

Oshkosh is also hosting (Midwest Regional) and they are not in the tournament. 

The host schools were announced very early in the season before it was even clear who would be participating.  I don't think it's a matter of participating in the baseball regionals but rather a matter of facilities and submitting the highest bid.  You must have a lighted field which none of the WIAC schools have presently.  Oshkosh uses EJ Schneider field, a high school facility. 
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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on May 12, 2009, 01:07:48 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 07, 2009, 12:28:39 PM
Stevens Point reloads.  You feel better now, OS?  ;)
No.  :D

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Just Bill

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on May 12, 2009, 01:06:56 PM
I know little about D3 baseball and I realize this is the basketball board, but if I put it in the baseball board, I'll likely forget to go back there!

Anyway, how can a school host without being in the tourney?  For basketball, isn't there a rule stating a host site has to be with a participating school...

I remember several years ago when Lawrence and Point headed out to Puget Sound because the woman Pointers were hosting and Lawrence was deemed too small to host.  There was talk (not from anyone official) about having Oshkosh host, but that was never going to work out because of the rule.

I saw that Point is in the NCAA baseball tourney, but they are in the region that hosted by Oshkosh.  Also, Augustana is hosting and they aren't in the tourney either.

Baseball regionals are selected in advance of the tournament. The reasoning is that with 6 or 8 teams over a four or five day period in an outdoor venue subject to weather conditions, a baseball regional requires more advance planning.  It was becoming harder and harder for schools to put in bids if they knew they'd only have 48 hours between the announcement and the first game.  Softball is also moving toward pre-determined regionals as well.

It also gives the host school time to secure sponsorships which lets the host school put in a smaller bid and can greatly reduce the cost that the NCAA has to reimburse back to the host school.

There is no basketball rule preventing a neutral site, but it hasn't been done in practice, because there's always been enough willing and capable hosts.  It wouldn't surprise me within a few years to see the NCAA experiment with pre-determined sectionals for basketball. However, they may view it as not as vital since it's only a two-day, four-team, indoor event.
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Hoops Junkie

With Regards to Will Ryan lets look at it from a different angle...

The pressure to succeed at Platteville would be huge.  For gods sake your last name is Ryan the court is named after your dad, no pressure thou

Will has never been a head coach at the collegiate level.  That does not mean he wouldn't make a good head coach,  but it is a reality.

I think the safe pick is someone like Adrian, or Mike Heideman


wiacsuperfan

For those in the land of The Pioneers....

How much pressure is the administration under to hire Will Ryan?  I have to think that Bo still has a lot of pull within the University and I don't think he will be too pleased if Will was passed up. 

Hoops Junkie

I had a very reliable source tell me a Head Coach from within the league, has applied for the Job at Platteville.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out who???

wizbegs1304

Shanagolden...you haven't posted in about five months....where do you come up with this information? If you have so much info, who is the name?

I personally think that Will Ryan is going to be the hire at UWP. He has the name, the experience, and is the son of BO RYAN!

His head coaching experience shouldn't be that big of a problem. He worked under Bo at Madison, he has coached at NDSU the past few years, which has been successful, he has learned from Saul Phillips. Just because he hasn't called the shots, doesn't mean he is not ready to the take the helm of his father's former school.

Greek Tragedy

Be interesting if Platteville convinced Jack Bennett out of retirement to come and coach.

Quote from: Just Bill on May 12, 2009, 01:27:43 PM
There is no basketball rule preventing a neutral site, but it hasn't been done in practice, because there's always been enough willing and capable hosts.  It wouldn't surprise me within a few years to see the NCAA experiment with pre-determined sectionals for basketball. However, they may view it as not as vital since it's only a two-day, four-team, indoor event.

The year Lawrence and Stevens Point and Sul Ross State (?) flew out to Puget Sound would've been a money saver for the NCAA...they could've played at Kolf.  Well, ok, UPS was the highest seed anyway, so I guess they deserved to host!
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Boston 1113

Ya, I agree with wiz.....

Stout, Eau Claire, and Oshkosh all have coaches who are getting older and most likely not going to move. I guess that leaves 5 other coaches who could have applied for the Platteville job. Won't that be something if one of those coaches moved.

I don't know about Jack Bennett, but what about Dick Bennett for the Platteville job. Maybe he will bring the blocker mover offense back to the WIAC.... Another interesting candidate would be Brad Soderberg current Loras athletic director...

chmarx

I think Brian Carroll may send his resume to Platteville.  :D
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janesvilleflash

Quote from: Shanagolden on May 12, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
I had a very reliable source tell me a Head Coach from within the league, has applied for the Job at Platteville.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out who???

Superior?
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stoutguy

Quote from: janesvilleflash on May 13, 2009, 02:18:17 AM
Quote from: Shanagolden on May 12, 2009, 11:14:03 PM
I had a very reliable source tell me a Head Coach from within the league, has applied for the Job at Platteville.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out who???

Superior?

Right on Flash, as usual.   Dave Buchanan did apply at Platteville after being passed up at Cardianl Stritch and should be a shoe-in if Platteville has any kind of clue.  Great coach.   Would be an awesome fit at Platteville.

hoops2

Anyone know who the last head coach to move to another conference school was?  I know several assistants have moved but what about a head coach moving?