MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BDB]

UW-Stout senior guard Jerrel Enerson-Matthews (Anoka, Minn) was an honorable mention choice on the Sporting News College Basketball magazine Division III preseason All-America team.

Congrats Jerrel!

[phoenix_rising]

Shane Manor is now listed on the River Falls roster, although he has to sit out a ... season, I believe. Transferred. He was pretty low-impact last year. I don't think his heart was here; obviously it was in River Falls.

[John Gleich]

Shane Manor is now listed on the River Falls roster, although he has to sit out a ... season, I believe. Transferred. He was pretty low-impact last year. I don't think his heart was here; obviously it was in River Falls.

That's a decent pick up for RF IMO... Manor, though you saw him as being low-impact, averaged double digit points, was the second leading rebounder, second on the team in steals.  Now, perhaps he can produce more than that, and if he was just going through the motions then it shows what could happen in the future for RF...  I think he should be able to jump right in (after sitting out the required year) and contribute.

[phoenix_rising]

I think Shane was a quality player; I think he had potential last year he wasn't tapping. I actually wondered if he was sick, because he seemed always to be doing the shirt-yanking thing. When he was on, he was outstanding. His presence on the court was very different from freshman year. Lacking enthusiasm, I would say. That, along with  Dwight Hill's early-season injury, left some gaping holes in the game for UWS. Of all the promise shown in that freshman class of two years ago, I'd have to say only Jake Smith lived up to expectations.

You're right; if Manor springs back to life, next year, RF will have a bundle of talent to play with.

[wcbsas]

JR Blount, formerly of Whitefish Bay Dominican and D1 Loyola of Chicago is the new grad assistant at UW-Stevens Point.

Interesting that the former Knight point guard comes on board as a grad assistant with a new freshman Dominican Knight, Jerrell Harris, joing the team and potentially contending as UWSP's starting point guard.

[badgerwarhawk]

I think practice starts today.   About time....

[John Gleich]

I think practice starts today.   About time....

Amen to that... unfortunately, we still have to wait a month for games to start.

[wcbsas]

I think practice starts today.   About time....

I think it is Saturday.

[John Gleich]

I think practice starts today.   About time....

I think it is Saturday.

Practice CAN officially start today... but a few years ago, the NCAA mandated the number of weeks that a teams could practice/play (I don't remember the exact number...).  For teams that start practicing right now, I think they've got to take a week off at some point during the year.  Christmas is convenient for that...  but the schedule really determines if a team can do that.

I don't remember the official rules on that now... hopefully someone can enlighten us!

[chmarx]

Starting to get fired up for the new season.

I'll have to poke Brian Carroll and tell him there are lots of interesting posts here!

[PRF2009A]

I think Shane was a quality player; I think he had potential last year he wasn't tapping. I actually wondered if he was sick, because he seemed always to be doing the shirt-yanking thing. When he was on, he was outstanding. His presence on the court was very different from freshman year. Lacking enthusiasm, I would say. That, along with  Dwight Hill's early-season injury, left some gaping holes in the game for UWS. Of all the promise shown in that freshman class of two years ago, I'd have to say only Jake Smith lived up to expectations.

You're right; if Manor springs back to life, next year, RF will have a bundle of talent to play with.

You don't have to sit out transferring from a D3 to a D3 right?  I thought it was only if you are transferring between D2 schools and above.

[Just Bill]

I think Shane was a quality player; I think he had potential last year he wasn't tapping. I actually wondered if he was sick, because he seemed always to be doing the shirt-yanking thing. When he was on, he was outstanding. His presence on the court was very different from freshman year. Lacking enthusiasm, I would say. That, along with  Dwight Hill's early-season injury, left some gaping holes in the game for UWS. Of all the promise shown in that freshman class of two years ago, I'd have to say only Jake Smith lived up to expectations.

You're right; if Manor springs back to life, next year, RF will have a bundle of talent to play with.

You don't have to sit out transferring from a D3 to a D3 right?  I thought it was only if you are transferring between D2 schools and above.

The NCAA doesn't require you to sit for transferring, but the WIAC has a conference rule which requires you to sit out a year if you transfer from one WIAC school to another WIAC school after your sophomore year.

[stcroix]

I think Shane was a quality player; I think he had potential last year he wasn't tapping. I actually wondered if he was sick, because he seemed always to be doing the shirt-yanking thing. When he was on, he was outstanding. His presence on the court was very different from freshman year. Lacking enthusiasm, I would say. That, along with  Dwight Hill's early-season injury, left some gaping holes in the game for UWS. Of all the promise shown in that freshman class of two years ago, I'd have to say only Jake Smith lived up to expectations.

You're right; if Manor springs back to life, next year, RF will have a bundle of talent to play with.

Culy played well at times...wasn't he hobbled by an injury almost all season?  No doubt, Smith has been the most productive to this point.

The loss of Manor and the addition of Helland should more than offset anything Manor brought to the table.  In my opinon, from a sheer basketball talent stand point, Marcus is a better overall player.

[badgerwarhawk]

I think Shane was a quality player; I think he had potential last year he wasn't tapping. I actually wondered if he was sick, because he seemed always to be doing the shirt-yanking thing. When he was on, he was outstanding. His presence on the court was very different from freshman year. Lacking enthusiasm, I would say. That, along with  Dwight Hill's early-season injury, left some gaping holes in the game for UWS. Of all the promise shown in that freshman class of two years ago, I'd have to say only Jake Smith lived up to expectations.

You're right; if Manor springs back to life, next year, RF will have a bundle of talent to play with.

You don't have to sit out transferring from a D3 to a D3 right?  I thought it was only if you are transferring between D2 schools and above.

The NCAA doesn't require you to sit for transferring, but the WIAC has a conference rule which requires you to sit out a year if you transfer from one WIAC school to another WIAC school after your sophomore year.

Would he be considered a grey shirt then?  Wouldn't that mean that he was unable to practice/work out with the team for that year?

[John Gleich]

I think Shane was a quality player; I think he had potential last year he wasn't tapping. I actually wondered if he was sick, because he seemed always to be doing the shirt-yanking thing. When he was on, he was outstanding. His presence on the court was very different from freshman year. Lacking enthusiasm, I would say. That, along with  Dwight Hill's early-season injury, left some gaping holes in the game for UWS. Of all the promise shown in that freshman class of two years ago, I'd have to say only Jake Smith lived up to expectations.

You're right; if Manor springs back to life, next year, RF will have a bundle of talent to play with.

You don't have to sit out transferring from a D3 to a D3 right?  I thought it was only if you are transferring between D2 schools and above.

The NCAA doesn't require you to sit for transferring, but the WIAC has a conference rule which requires you to sit out a year if you transfer from one WIAC school to another WIAC school after your sophomore year.

Would he be considered a grey shirt then?  Wouldn't that mean that he was unable to practice/work out with the team for that year?

I think it is a lost year of eligibility.  He is able to practice with the team... the "sit out" year is in terms of playing.  From the NCAA's point of view, it's the same as if somebody is on the team and practicing... but doesn't get in a game.  Because you're at the practices, you lose the eligibility. 

Now, if he elects NOT to continue to practice with the team once the season starts, then it could be considered a Gray shirt year... but seeing as he's on the roster already, that isn't likely.

I don't know what the D-I rule is in terms of the "sit out" year... I don't know if the eligibility clock stops running for that year or not (doesn't seem like it would make sense to stop IMO)... so if a guy transfers multiple times, then he might end up losing a year (or years?) of eligibility.


I haven't looked this up... I'm just going by common sense and other stories I've heard... so I might be wrong.  He still only has 10 semesters to complete 4 years of eligibility... but I don't know what really happens in a situation like this, where the conference has mandated that he CAN'T play (and I do believe that the policy makes sense... you don't have guys jumping ship all over the place because of the penalty). 


OK, I looked it up...

•   Any student-athlete who has competed for two or more seasons at a WIAC institution must establish a one-year residency in order to be eligible in that sport upon transferring from one conference institution to another.

Unfortunately, it doesn't discuss years of eligibility... but with the ouster of redshirting, if a player practices with the team, they use a year of eligibility... thus, a player transferring after their sophomore year would lose the junior year and be able to participate for their senior year.

I don't really know what would happen if someone transferred after their junior year.  It seems like they would lose the senior year in "establishing residency..."  Otherwise they could really be considered a redshirt.  I wonder if someone else might interpret that differently (P'ville SID, do you have any insight into this?).