MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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Just Bill

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Quote from: chmarx on June 10, 2009, 12:56:31 AM
Adrian won't be staying on?

Staying on where?  He left UWP three years ago.  I assume he'll be staying on as Edgewood's head coach.
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titan2000

No matter who the coach is, I remember from a college trip to Plateville that the ladies there were scary.  :o
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chmarx

Quote from: Just Bill on June 10, 2009, 01:08:17 AM
Quote from: chmarx on June 10, 2009, 12:56:31 AM
Adrian won't be staying on?

Staying on where?  He left UWP three years ago.  I assume he'll be staying on as Edgewood's head coach.

My bad. *blushes*
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Pioneer Hoops Fan

Quote from: titan2000 on June 10, 2009, 07:51:09 AM
No matter who the coach is, I remember from a college trip to Plateville that the ladies there were scary.  :o

I'm sure they felt the same about your visit.

Quote from: wcbsas on June 09, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
I just think recruiting to Platteville has got to be a tough thing ... it is in the middle of no where, it is one of the least populous areas of the state and there are no population centers close by (Dubuque doesn't count).

I only picked this one because I guess it sort of represents what others are questioning.  I would say that yes, Platteville is probably a tougher sell than some of the other schools into comparison to their geographical location in the state. 

From my understanding though is that when you recruit kids you start to maybe realize what major they're looking into.  At that point, you sell that program to the kid.  Get them on Campus give them the tour.  UWP has dedicated itself to increasing enrollment through it's TSI.  In the past five years has expanded its campus in the addition of two new buildings for Engineering and housing.  The new Student Center is just older than 5 years I think.  Complete renovation of two other buildings for classrooms and administration.  So I'll say the campus looks much better now than when I graduated four years ago.

So at this point, if they have the basketball program, academic program, and a motivation for improving your time on campus, what is left?  Night life?  What's needed for that.  Students can't legally drink for three years after they show up anyway.  Those that do, can't go to the bar.  Don't think they can anywhere else in this country.  I know clubs offer them in, but they can't buy alcohol.  Just need to see people?  If I'm at Whitewater, it would take me a about an hour to get to Lucky's on Regent St. in Madison.  It will take me about 15 minutes longer if I leave from Platteville instead.  Madison really isn't as far away as it seems from Platteville.

Obviously I might be a little biased, but if you can play in William's Fieldhouse on Bo Ryan Court for a storied program who is starting to find its mark again.  Also that University has your academic program of choice, with a campus that is consistently trying to make your time there better with each year you are there.  Also has a community that cares not just about the university that you are attending, but also that storied program that you represent each day you're here.  Trust me, this town is and was buzzing with what is going on with this team. 

So let me ask you this...Why not Platteville?

palum

Well said PHF the WIAC does not have players who have dreams of the NBA the WIAC is  full of players who want to play 4 more years before entering the real world so the academic program is just as important as the athletic program.  I remember at the post game press conference after the 1998 D3 championship game Bo was asked how he could recruit basketball players to a small farm community in SW Wisconsin he replied "I don't the Dean of the Engineering School does it for me."  If I recall that team had 8 Engineering majors on it and those 8 had a GPA higher than the GPA of the Engineering school.  Thats what is great about the WIAC every school has at least 1 academic program that is recognized as one of the top programs in the Midwest or the country.  If you want to be an accountant go to WW if you want to be an engineer you can't go wrong at UWP. 

wcbsas

To Pioneer Hoops Fan:

Good comments and points ... my thoughts:

UWP certainly has a lot of things going for it
... it has its niche's academically (agri-business, engineering ...)
... fan support, 2nd probably to UWSP
... storied program; means something but not an over-riding factor to new recruits

BUT:
... Location is also important to WHO you are recruiting (Skemp was from nearby).  
... Not a lot of kids on the roster from the WI population centers (Madison, Milwaukee, Fox Valley)

I don't think kids come to the school worried about the night life, or the size of the town ... but what the town has to offer is a factor.  Off-campus housing, summer and part-time jobs, activities are all important.

The UWW basketball team plays in a summer bball league in Verona.  UWSP and UWO have a lot of people stay on campus because the towns are big enough to allow them to do so!
Life you lead is the life you teach!

Pioneer Hoops Fan

Quote from: wcbsas on June 11, 2009, 01:23:33 PM
To Pioneer Hoops Fan:

Good comments and points ... my thoughts:

UWP certainly has a lot of things going for it
... it has its niche's academically (agri-business, engineering ...)
... fan support, 2nd probably to UWSP
... storied program; means something but not an over-riding factor to new recruits

BUT:
... Location is also important to WHO you are recruiting (Skemp was from nearby).  
... Not a lot of kids on the roster from the WI population centers (Madison, Milwaukee, Fox Valley)

I don't think kids come to the school worried about the night life, or the size of the town ... but what the town has to offer is a factor.  Off-campus housing, summer and part-time jobs, activities are all important.

The UWW basketball team plays in a summer bball league in Verona.  UWSP and UWO have a lot of people stay on campus because the towns are big enough to allow them to do so!

Appreciate the comments, and I'll do my best to hopefully point to those areas.  Skemp is local, and so are a few others on the current roster as well as those coming in.  But if we look at our four out-going Seniors.  Skemp is from 20 miles down the road.  But Richter is from Waukesha, Lohoff is from Oshkosh, and Tetschlag is from Sheboygan.  There are a couple of others that from those centers of population.  Are they the main focus?  I don't know about that, I haven't checked with the coaching staff...well right now coach on that.  I know it isn't Wisconsin, but Coach Gard was able to secure a recruit from Cleveland, OH.  I know its D3, and the kid still has to show up in the fall, but its a verbal I think that will be followed through with.

All the guys are back throughout the summer working the camps and stuff.  I think a lot of the older guys stick around all summer because UWP has a housing rule of 2 years (but we all know how to get around that).  Some are doing their internships. 

Im almost positive the UWP team plays in that league as well, at least they have in the past.

Each School has its distinctive advantages all around the board.  Obviously it is up to the coaching staff to find the kids that fit what the school/team are needing and then sell it the best they can.

WLCALUM83

#8782
Here's news on a prep player headed UW-Whitewater's direction:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/47715722.html

("Where are they going?" section)





miacsuperfan

Sorry if this has been addressed pages ago, but can somebody confirm the rumor that former Litchfield MN and UW-RF player Hans Hoeg is returning to play inter-collegiate hoops this year in North Dakota (Dickinson?  Jamestown?)   And if so, why would he not finish up at River Falls?   I'll hang up and listen.

frankiet

Its true that Hans Hoeg is finishing his college career at Jamestown College in ND on a full scholarship. Former Falcon, Ryan Thompson did the same thing two years ago and finished his final year at Jamestown College on a full scholarship.

wcbsas

Quote from: wizkiddy1304 on June 18, 2009, 01:30:04 AM
10 FRESHMAN?
I think I would would hate to play for Van Dellen ... doesn't seem to be a lot of loyalty from the coach ... his quote's certainly don't speak positively about his players!
Life you lead is the life you teach!

badgerwarhawk

I think he's got his work cut out finding enough playing time to satisfy 10 players who would be going through the program simotaneously.  Perhaps they wouldn't expect much their first year or two but eventually they're going to want to get on the floor.  Not to mention new recruits that he'd bring in subsequently.   I'm not saying that he can't make it work but I'd have to believe it's a challenge. 

However I'd have to admit it looks like a solid group. 
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