MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[wcbsas]

Rumor has it that UWSP has three players leave the team ... Sophomore Ben Schumacher, and two freshmen - Bryan Gregory and Jason Ziemer.

That reduces their roster from 18 to 15 (including Jared Jenkins).

15 is almost too high although they had 14 last year!

Where did you hear this rumor?

Another player has left as well bringing the count to 4.  From a person affiliated with the team!

Care to fill the rest of us in on the most recent "rumored" departure? 

Since you put the other three names out there, what's one more?   

I was asked not to say just yet

[cubs]

Rumor has it that UWSP has three players leave the team ... Sophomore Ben Schumacher, and two freshmen - Bryan Gregory and Jason Ziemer.

That reduces their roster from 18 to 15 (including Jared Jenkins).

15 is almost too high although they had 14 last year!

Where did you hear this rumor?

Another player has left as well bringing the count to 4.  From a person affiliated with the team!

Care to fill the rest of us in on the most recent "rumored" departure? 

Since you put the other three names out there, what's one more?   

I was asked not to say just yet

No problem.....  Just thought I would ask....

[badgerwarhawk]

I wouldn't mind if Ziemer or Gregory decided to be a WARHAWK. 

[wcbsas]

I wouldn't mind if Ziemer or Gregory decided to be a WARHAWK. 

Don't they have to sit out for two years?  If they were to transfer?

[badgerwarhawk]

No, assuming they haven't enrolled at a different WIAC school already they would be eligible at the midterm.

If my memory serves me you only have to sit out one year if you transfer after you have played for another WIAC school for two seasons or longer.  If you transfer after playing just a single season or not having played at all you can be eligible immediately. 

[John Gleich]

Point snags the #1 spot in the WIAC preseason poll:

Story

Also, Point released their roster:

Roster

As previously reported, no Ben Schumacher, also no Michael Griffin.  Ziemer and Gregory are not on the roster.  Scott Hoelzl is back.

5 new freshmen and Dan Tillema transferring in as a sophomore.

I don't have much info on the 4 guys that didn't come out, so I'll hold my opinions to myself, but in the Pointer radio show, Coach Semling and Scottie Krueger, at the beginning of the show, had a rather lengthy discourse about having an opportunity to play college athletics and deciding not to push through the years that you aren't getting PT to strive for the future.  I'm not going to say that this was directly to those guys, but it seemed pretty ironic if it wasn't.

Well, later in the show, they did say that Michael is still in school and decided before the year not to play but Ben decided just this last week not to.  No word about the two freshmen.

[Greek Tragedy]

These players were mentioned when the "outstanding recruiting class" announcement came out.

Bryan Gregory 6-4 190 Fr. WF Edgerton, Wis.
Jordan Giordana 5-11 170 Fr. SG Kaukauna, Wis.
Jerrel Harris 5-10 150 Fr. PG Whitefish Bay, Wis./Dominican
Matt Resch 6-4 195 Fr. SG/F Weyauwega, Wis./Weyauwega-Fremont
Tyler Tillema 6-3 160 Fr. CG Randolph, Wis.
Jason Ziemer 6-4 195 Fr. WF Verona, Wis.

2009 Transfers
Matt Smith 6-8 220 Jr. PF/C Burlington, Wis./Catholic Central/Winona St.
Dan Tillema

Last Year's Roster
Nick Krull
Jordan Brezinski
Matt Moses
Evan Sweeney
Vinny Ritchay
Louis Hurd
Jared Jenkins


Not mentioned in recruiting class
Brian Ironmonger

Returning after a year off-Scott Hoelzel

Not returning
Ben Schumacher
Michael Griffen
Kevin Flynn

[Greek Tragedy]

1. UW-Stevens Point (7)  14-2, 24-5             
2. UW-Whitewater (1) 13-3, 23-6                   
3. UW-Oshkosh (1) 9-7, 16-11                       
4. UW-Platteville  13-3, 23-6                           
5. UW-La Crosse 4-12, 10-15                           
6. UW-River Falls  5-11, 11-15                           
7. UW-Superior  4-12, 11-14                               
8. UW-Eau Claire  8-8, 15-11                           
9. UW-Stout 2-14, 8-17
( )--First-Place Votes

[cubs]

How does UWO get a 1st place vote?? 

I understand the fact that they have a Pre-season All American in DJ Marsh, but it seems to me that there are A LOT of questions after him....

[Just Bill]

No, assuming they haven't enrolled at a different WIAC school already they would be eligible at the midterm.

If my memory serves me you only have to sit out one year if you transfer after you have played for another WIAC school for two seasons or longer.  If you transfer after playing just a single season or not having played at all you can be eligible immediately. 

Your memory serves you well BW. You are correct on that rule.

[badgerwarhawk]

How does UWO get a 1st place vote?? 

I understand the fact that they have a Pre-season All American in DJ Marsh, but it seems to me that there are A LOT of questions after him....

I don't know who cast the one vote for UW-O, or UW-W for that matter, but I don't believe that there is any rule which prevents a SID from voting for their own school. 

Marsh is going to be very difficult for opponents to handle.  It would surprise me if he wasn't the conference POY when the season ends.  He's a very good player.

[John Gleich]

How does UWO get a 1st place vote?? 

I understand the fact that they have a Pre-season All American in DJ Marsh, but it seems to me that there are A LOT of questions after him....

I don't know who cast the one vote for UW-O, or UW-W for that matter, but I don't believe that there is any rule which prevents a SID from voting for their own school. 

Marsh is going to be very difficult for opponents to handle.  It would surprise me if he wasn't the conference POY when the season ends.  He's a very good player.

I agree... I mean, he shared it last year with Skemp.

Anybody have stats about how many players that have won the POY as juniors won (or didn't win, for that matter) as a senior?

[John Gleich]

Here's a limited history that I found on the WIAC page:

Merrill Brunson won it as a junior in 98-99 but Bailey won it in 99-00

Dworak took it as a junior in 01-02, Dworak and Melzer (junior) shared it in 02-03 and Melzer took it in 03-04 too

Matt Goodwin won it (junior) in 07-08 but Marsh (junior) and Skemp shared it last year


So there's a precedence of both happening I guess!

[badgerwarhawk]

I realize it wasn't exactly a bold prediction. 

[badgerwarhawk]

Marsh has been named to the DIIIhoops.com preseason All-American first team.  He's the only WIAC player on any of the four teams named.