MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[cubs]

FINAL SCORES
Whitewater 67  
Point 60    OT
-Mitchell with 19 points and 12 rebounds, and Bendall with 18 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists to lead Whitewater.
-Tillema comes off the bench to lead Point with 15 points.

Eau Claire 74
River Falls 68
-Boone Bartlett, Probst, and Prince combine for 53 Points to outscore Koonkaew, Voeltz and Guerin who combine for 50 points.

Platteville 67
Oshkosh 47
-Hanson, Shaw, Wall, and Kieler combine for 61 points.
-Schrimpf leads UWO with 12 points (10 in the 1st half) the first time this season someone other than Marsh has led UWO in scoring.
-Marsh held to just 8 points, the first time this season he hasn't scored in double figures.

La Crosse 78
Stout 64
-Mane leads the way with 28 points, 3 rebounds, and 3 assists.
-Stratton held to just 9 points, only the second time this season he hasn't scored in double figures.

[chmarx]

By that definition, I think we are in Minnesota.  No wonder we get so little money from Wisconsin.

[wcbsas]

FINAL SCORES
Whitewater 67  
Point 60    OT
-Mitchell with 19 points and 12 rebounds, and Bendall with 18 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists to lead Whitewater.
-Tillema comes off the bench to lead Point with 15 points.

Dustin Mitchell appears to be having an all-conference type season.  UWW played only 7 guys, 6 of them 30+ minutes each.

Looks like Moses had a tough game and the "big" guys from UWSP had a tough time stopping their UWW counter-parts!

[Greek Tragedy]

With that said, they were only out-rebounded by four, 34-30 and Point actually had more offensive rebounds than Whitewater, which usually doesn't happen.  Whitewater has always been a good rebounding team, and Point really has not.  It's a tough loss but I picked against Point because I know how good Whitewater is at home, especially against Point...and vice versa.  Surprised the game went into overtime?  Both games last year went the extra period.

I like the depth of the Pointer bench.  7 guys played 20+ minutes and Sweeney played 12 and Brezinski played 9.  It wasn't because of foul trouble either.  Jerrell Harris had four fouls, but 2 came a 9 second span in overtime.  Jenkins and Moses got their 3rd fouls in OT and Hurd got his 3rd with about a minute left in regulation. 

[frodotwo]

Point appeared reluctant to challenge WW inside for the majority of the game. There were openings, but once they got to within 10 ft of the basket, they kicked it back out and continued to swing outside, settling for jumpers that didn't fall. This is the first game I saw this year where they did not work it inside more, and I don't know why. WW did not appear that intimidating inside and their only block came late in the game. During their 17-0 run Point worked at penetrating and it resulted in layups, and open looks from the outside. This was done by bench players mostly, when they reinserted the starters, right back to the swing around the perimeter 20 feet from the basket.   

A couple of turning points; a missed layup by Moses with 2 min left in OT and one by Jenkins with a minute left. The end of regulation was a terrible job by the shot clock guy. Mitchell was able to catch, turn, load and shoot before the clock started. The clock was at .6 seconds on the in-bounds and .4 when the shot hit the rim.    Anyway, Mitchell outplayed the interior guys for Point, and they had no answer for his drop step or the lob over the top. WW played better inside than Point and won because of that.

[badgerwarhawk]

For the most part it was a game of runs.  Leading 11-10 the WARHAWKS went on a 13-4 to lead 24-14 with two and half minutes remaining.  Point answered that with a 5-0 run to finish the half down five, 24-19, in a very low scoring affair.  Even more unusual was the fact that neither team attempted a single free throw in the entire half as only a total of five fouls were whistled.  The half literally flew by.  Over the first five minutes of the second half WHITEWATER went on a 11-4 to build a twelve point lead 35-23.  Then Point caught fire and made a 17-0 run to go by five 45-40 with 5:45 remaining.  WHITEWATER answered that with a 9-0 run to retake the lead 46-40.  WHITEWATER trailed by two, 53-51 with about a minute left but a three point play by Mike Bendall put them up by one.   DJ Dantzler made one of two free throws to increase the lead to two, 55-53,  with :31 on the clock when Louis Hurd missed a three-point attempt but got his own rebound, found a lane and drove to the basket to tie it 55-55 with 7 seconds left.  After the ball went out of bounds with six tenths of a second left the WARHAWKS inbounded by Dustin Mitchell's three point attempt rolled of the side of the rim and game went to over time.  Both teams started the overtime missing shots before WHITEWATER scored with 2:55 on the clock.  Holding Point scoreless until 47 seconds remained the WARHAWKS had built the lead to 62-55.  Point got on the board then but WHITEWATER made 5-6 free throws to finish off the 67-60 win.

Mitchell was a load for Point to control.  He finished with 19 points and 12 rebounds.  Bendall continues to be a difference maker for WHITEWATER.  He finished with 18 points (7-9 from the floor - 4-4 from the line), 6 rebounds, 5 assists, a pair of steals and a blocked shot.  Dantzler also scored in double figures with 12 points.  

After shooting no free throws in the first half WHITEWATER went 16-20 in the second half and overtime compared to Point's 5-5.  Though 9 of the 20 came in the overtime when Point was intentionally fouling.

Don't blame the shot clock operator.  With .6 of second remaining the shot clock isn't even turned on.  The mistake was made by the timer, specifically me.  After handing the ball to be inbounded the official moved onto the floor and blocked my line of vision so I couldn't see Mitchell catch the ball and started the clock late.  Fortunately he missed.  Had he made the shot I was prepared to own up to my mistake and advise the offical.  I do my best to operate the clock fairly and accurately but I'm human and sometimes I screw up.  Obviously this wasn't one of my better moments.   Like I said, I just glad he missed the shot and it didn't impact the outcome of the game.


 

[wcbsas]

Don't blame the shot clock operator.  With .6 of second remaining the shot clock isn't even turned on.  The mistake was made by the timer, specifically me.  After handing the ball to be inbounded the official moved onto the floor and blocked my line of vision so I couldn't see Mitchell catch the ball and started the clock late.  Fortunately he missed.  Had he made the shot I was prepared to own up to my mistake and advise the offical.  I do my best to operate the clock fairly and accurately but I'm human and sometimes I screw up.  Obviously this wasn't one of my better moments.   Like I said, I just glad he missed the shot and it didn't impact the outcome of the game.

I am remind of clock controversies from prior years.  Its nice that you are concerned enough to make sure fairness is in play!

Specific to Mitchell.  UWSP is going to be hurt in games like this because they lack bulk and size to defend the post.  They'll likely rocket through the conference schedule, finishing in 1st or 2nd make the playoffs and once again get bounced in the NCAA's because they do not match up with some teams 6'9" post player.

It is a typically script for UWSP!

Imagine if they would have a post player like Mitchell or Skemp.  With Hurd and Hoezel playing the 4 spot.  They'd be better than a lot of D2 teams.  Too bad they can't or don't recruit those kinds of players and those they get they run off!

[Greek Tragedy]

Too bad they can't or don't recruit those kinds of players and those they get they run off!

That's a little harsh. 

[Gregory Sager]

Don't blame the shot clock operator.  With .6 of second remaining the shot clock isn't even turned on.  The mistake was made by the timer, specifically me.  After handing the ball to be inbounded the official moved onto the floor and blocked my line of vision so I couldn't see Mitchell catch the ball and started the clock late.  Fortunately he missed.  Had he made the shot I was prepared to own up to my mistake and advise the offical.  I do my best to operate the clock fairly and accurately but I'm human and sometimes I screw up.  Obviously this wasn't one of my better moments.   Like I said, I just glad he missed the shot and it didn't impact the outcome of the game.

BW, as someone who works at the scorer's table for NPU, let me ask you a question: Given that situation again, in which your view of the inbound pass is blocked by the official, would you sound the horn to stop the play before it begins and ask the official to reposition himself in order to give you an adequate view? I realize that the game of basketball is visually structured in such a way as to allow the officials to do their job to the best of their ability, but if the timer can't do his job to the best of his ability in a situation in which every fraction of a second is crucial, then the game is affected as adversely as it would be if the official was out of position, if not more.

I've never been to ref school, so I don't know all of the protocols about positioning oneself for an inbounds play, but it seems to me that his needs could've been just as easily served if he had stood on the endline side of the inbounder and handed him the ball rather than on the midcourt side where he was obstructing your view -- or if, after handing the inbounder the ball, he had run out to the middle of the floor and away from the play. At any rate, while I don't want to second-guess you -- the timer has a difficult and thankless job -- I just wonder if it's possible to get the official to accommodate you in that kind of a situation.

Thanks for taking my call. I'll hang up and wait for your answer.

[badgerwarhawk]

I didn't mean to make it sound like it was the official's problem or fault.  I was responsible for the error.  He wasn't in my way until after the inbounds pass was made so I couldn't blow the horn and ask him to move over.  If he had been in my way initially I would have changed my position slightly so that I could see.  The pass came in, he moved simotaneously and I couldn't see Mitchell catch it.  He was doing exactly what he was suppose to do.  

Again, I want to be perfectly clear.  This wasn't any fault of the offical.  It was just one of those things.  People are moving around on the floor and every once and a while your vision gets blocked.  Generally it isn't at such a critical juncture but it happens.  

I have a lot of respect for all three of the officals that worked our game.  They are good officials and very professional.  I apologize to them if I made it sound like they did something wrong.  That wasn't my intention nor the case at all.  This one is on me.

[wcbsas]

Too bad they can't or don't recruit those kinds of players and those they get they run off!

That's a little harsh. 

It probably is ... and cetainly wasn't attacking anyone but IMO for as good a program as UWSP is ... to not have any decent post players since Kaslow seems to be too much of a trend.

Serious question ... do you think that a lack of a post player could be a reason for their relative lack of post season success?

[frankiet]

badgerwarhawk,

any word on whether chris vines will be back this season or will he take a medical redshirt?

[frodotwo]

Too bad they can't or don't recruit those kinds of players and those they get they run off!

That's a little harsh. 

It probably is ... and cetainly wasn't attacking anyone but IMO for as good a program as UWSP is ... to not have any decent post players since Kaslow seems to be too much of a trend.

Serious question ... do you think that a lack of a post player could be a reason for their relative lack of post season success?

It certainly did when Wash U came to the Quandt in 2007 and Troy Ruths basically dominated and won the game for them. 6'8" Matt Smith is not playing this year, but is registered at the school. He may have to sit out a year due to playing for DII Winona State last year before he was injured. I don't know the situation there, but he was announced as a recruit earlier this year http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2009/5/6/MBB_0506091213.aspx?path=mbball.

[frodotwo]

Don't blame the shot clock operator.  With .6 of second remaining the shot clock isn't even turned on.  The mistake was made by the timer, specifically me.  After handing the ball to be inbounded the official moved onto the floor and blocked my line of vision so I couldn't see Mitchell catch the ball and started the clock late.  Fortunately he missed.  Had he made the shot I was prepared to own up to my mistake and advise the offical.  I do my best to operate the clock fairly and accurately but I'm human and sometimes I screw up.  Obviously this wasn't one of my better moments.   Like I said, I just glad he missed the shot and it didn't impact the outcome of the game.


 

I meant the clock operator (timer). Nice to know the reason, but I would have thought the officials would have caught that. Perhaps they did, but just let it go since the shot didn't go in. The refs have a hard job and the only real glaring call that wasn't made was late in the OT when Mitchell got a rebound and tripped over another player, fell to the floor and then while on the floor, passed off to another player. That happened to Point at RF last week and the call was traveling.

[John Gleich]

Too bad they can't or don't recruit those kinds of players and those they get they run off!

That's a little harsh. 

It probably is ... and cetainly wasn't attacking anyone but IMO for as good a program as UWSP is ... to not have any decent post players since Kaslow seems to be too much of a trend.

Serious question ... do you think that a lack of a post player could be a reason for their relative lack of post season success?

It certainly did when Wash U came to the Quandt in 2007 and Troy Ruths basically dominated and won the game for them. 6'8" Matt Smith is not playing this year, but is registered at the school. He may have to sit out a year due to playing for DII Winona State last year before he was injured. I don't know the situation there, but he was announced as a recruit earlier this year http://athletics.uwsp.edu/news/2009/5/6/MBB_0506091213.aspx?path=mbball.

D-II to D-III transfer doesn't need to sit out a year.