MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Just Bill]

Yeah...this reseeding stuff isn't any good.  It has nothing to do with the fact I'd rather have the Pointers play the lower seed, Superior, but why PUNISH them and make them go play the top seed. 

I'd say if you make #4 Stout go play #1 Whitewater, while #6 Superior gets to play #2 Stevens Point, you'd be punishing Stout, wouldn't you?

Your not punishing Stout for something they did though.  Chalk would have Stout playing Whitewater anyway.  So, basically you're rewarding Stout because La Crosse couldn't hold up their end of the donkey. 

The goal of the new tournament format was to protect the top seed as much as possible to help insure their chances at a Pool C bid should they not win the tournament. Reseeding the field after the first round helps accomplish that.

[cubs]

The goal of the new tournament format was to protect the top seed as much as possible to help insure their chances at a Pool C bid should they not win the tournament. Reseeding the field after the first round helps accomplish that.

Which I like and TOTALLY agree with....  The regular-season champion should earn some reward, and this seems rather fair. 

It also keeps things on a "level" playing field for the teams that play Tuesday, as they have the same amount of prep/game-planning time as the teams with the "bye" since the match-ups aren't set.

This set-up gives us as fans the best chance of seeing multiple WIAC teams make the NCAA Tournament as well, as the likelihood of both the #1 and #2 seeds losing before the championship seems less likely.

[stcroix]

Does Whitewater video stream any of their games?

[badgerwarhawk]

Unfortunately no.  We do have live stats and a tv broadcast on the university channel.  Also there is a link to the radio broadcast on the website.

[John Gleich]

Does Whitewater video stream any of their games?

I thought I'd seen a game where you could PURCHASE live video from Whitewater... but that game may not have been at WW (I also saw Oshkosh selling vid, so it may have been the WW/Osh game).

[buf]

It looks like Penn Atlantic has free video for tonight.

I watched the EC-WW doubleheader a few weeks back for free.  The football games were free this past season also.  You have to register.

[buf]

UWW defeats Superior, 86-70 

I don't even want to know at what time Superior arrives home.

[John Gleich]

Wow, Point and Whitewater both trail at halftime of their games and score 50+ in the second half to win by 15 and 16 respectively.

Some more really good WIAC players end their careers tonight.

[frodotwo]

Point played inspired (by the crowd, which was loud) defense in the second part of the 2nd half. Dan Tillema made several plays that ignited the team and Ross Forman was a workhorse on the boards. Moses took the team on his back during the comeback from an 8 point deficit with about 13 minutes to play.  With about 2 minutes to play Jenkins dunked over Enerson-Mathews and Thomas tried to do the same, but was denied on an awesome block by Tillema. E-M put back the rebound and as the teams were heading back down to the Point end, Thomas was bodying Tillema and pushed him out of bounds and got a foul call. The Dan Tillema dunk at the end was thunderous, but not appreciated by the Stout coach. He came down the court before the last seconds ticked off and I saw him tell Sem "That was bullsh*t". Sem talked to him for several seconds and handshakes ensued. Andrist told Tillema the same thing and to Jenkins as well. Very poor sportsmanship IMO. None of the Pointers responded. Stout continued to play hard and tried to score before and after the dunk, was Point not supposed to play hard? I'm sure the coach was frustrated, but his ire should have stopped at the opposing coach, and not the players. This was not a situation where Tillema tried to injure an opposing team's player or was trash talking or showing up anyone, and why Jenkins? His dunk was just making a play. Other fans I was sitting with said that Andrist is a helluva nice guy, but that was uncalled for.

[John Gleich]

Andrist is a good guy... I think he should get COY, like I've said (though that doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he's a nice guy!).  I think there was a lot bottled up in his frustrations...  The Point radio guys said that he was getting on the refs a bunch, especially in the second half when Stout was making their run.

Stout is a very, very good team, and one of the hottest in the country.  There are a number of seniors that played their last game tonight, and for this team, which was picked last in the WIAC to storm back and tie for third in the league is a pretty big feat. 

Now, the dunk at the end of the game... (either one...) if your team is pressing and can't get  a trap, you're susceptible to layups... and dunks.  The risk that Stout took in trying to turn Point over was that, if SP broke the press, then they were going to have numbers in a likely fast break situation, and Point has a bunch of athletes on their team that can sky for the dunk.  Now, if something was said after a dunk or a block I don't know... but I think Thomas' frustration after the block had to do with the fact that, after scoring 12 first half points, he had only scored one more in the second half and had turned the ball over a number of times (5 for the game).  He is a very effective player if he gets it where he wants it and even has pretty good range when catching it in rhythm for a big guy... but if he's trying to post and you push him out and make him handle it, he's prone to mistakes, which is what happened.

Point really turned up the D in the second half... Stout shot 54.8% in the first half (it had been as high as 59% from what I was on live stats) and Point held them to 43% in the second half.  The daggers Stout hit from deep in Menomonee didn't fall tonight and Point was able to rebound from a 10 point second half deficit do in large part to forcing their will upon Stout, not the other way around.  Point also got to the line a ton.  29 times to just 5 for Stout, and only a few of those were extend-the-game fouls at the end.

Btw, Moses went over 1000 points with tonight's game.

[stoutguy]

Tough day for this old radio guy. but the sun did come up this morning.   A couple thoughts.  first of all, it is my opinion that Ed was out of line talking to the kids about the dunk at the end of the game.  He was frustrated with the game and the 25-9 free throw disparity and he already apologized to coach Semling.
Secondly, you guys that said Ed is a nice guy are right and forget for one second that he is my good friend, I feel that it would be an injustice if he is not COY.  I plan to ask both Jack Bennett and Bob Semling about that on our Western Wisconsin Sports Sat. show on WMEQ AM880 on Sat. morning.  Bob will be on at 8:35 and Jack will be on at 9:35 as he is doing the championship game on tv. 

[wcbsas]

Your team is up by 13 points with less than 10 seconds to play ... should you be dunking?

I realize Stout was pressing but goodness golly I would think pulling it out, holding it and taking a foul would be a much smarter and sportsman-like play.

[John Gleich]

Your team is up by 13 points with less than 10 seconds to play ... should you be dunking?

I realize Stout was pressing but goodness golly I would think pulling it out, holding it and taking a foul would be a much smarter and sportsman-like play.

Uh, same thing happened at Whitewater too...  There was a dunk in the last minute.

[badgerwarhawk]

The situation was a little different in WHITEWATER.  We couldn't kill the clock by sitting on the ball because there was too much time left in the game.  So we pulled it out and ran out all but a few seconds of the shot clock before the dunk.  I suppose we could have taken a shot clock violation and just handed the ball to Superior but I can't recall the last time I saw a team do that.  When we rebounded Superior's last shot attempt with five seconds remaining we made no effort to advance the ball into the front court.   I'm not saying that I think Point's dunk was unsporting I'm just pointing out the difference in the situations. 

It was Superior that had the hot start and the WARHAWKS misfiring on some inside shots to start the game as the YellowJackets jumped in front with a quick 8-0 lead before a three pointer from Dustin Mitchell put the WARHWKS on the board.  Superior maintained a small lead for most of the half though the WARHAWKS took a lead with 3 minutes to play and after that there were four lead changes before the half ended with the YellowJackets on top by one, 36-35.  WHITEWATER scored first to take the lead in the second half.  Superior answered immediately but the WARHAWKS regained the lead on their next possession and led the rest of the game.  The final 16 point margin, 86-70, was the largest of the game.

Both Mitchell and Mike Bendall finished with 21 points apiece and DuPree Fletcher came off the bench to score 16.  Mitchell added 11 rebounds to post another double-double, his eleventh of the season.  Bendall added 8 rebounds as the  WARHAWKS dominated the boards 42-24 including 14 on the offensive end.  DJ Dantzler went 7-8 from the line down the stretch.  Chris Vines added 8 points and 3 rebounds in thirteen minutes.  The WARHAWKS shot 53.3% from the floor to 44.1% for the YellowJackets.

Jake Smith also scored 21 points to lead Superior.  They didn't seem to have quite the intensity in the second half as they had in the first one.  Perhaps fatique played a part in that. 



   

[phoenix_rising]

They didn't seem to have quite the intensity in the second half as they had in the first one.  Perhaps fatique played a part in that. 

Duh. Ya think? The equivalent of six and a half players play for Superior last night. I'm counting the measly 13 minutes of Ritchie's and Davis' combined time. Davis didn't even get enough time to warm up. I can't for the life of me figure out why a person would play three fatigued players over three fresh ones. I know Ritchie can play; Davis could probably play if he got some time on the court; I think there are sitters who rarely get off the bench who could at least control the bleeding while some of the starters catch a breather. I think we can safely say there are no risk-takers in control of the team.

Your ship is going down, the life raft is floating away, how about trying to swim?