MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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stoutguy

Quote from: phoenix_rising on April 14, 2010, 12:52:05 PM
The coaches here are part time positions with the remaining percentage generally in teaching. Thus, without a masters a person would not qualify for the non-coaching portion of the job. I think after UWS decided it was going to get serious about coaches--basketball, anyway--it listed masters as a minimum requirement. Mulhern has a PhD; Buchanan had a masters. If you aren't linking the coaching position to any other position on campus, a bachelors would probably do it. As I recall, though, even in the last search, the men's coach only had to teach family living or social graces or something. Still, you hardly want an instructor with a bachelors teaching courses; even many high school instructors have gotten beyond that.
So true.  Once I got my Masters in Education degree after teaching English for so many years without it, I found that I was so much smarter and such a better teacher------NOT!!!!!

badgerwarhawk

It would be hard for you to improve on perfection Stoutguy.  :D
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phoenix_rising

Stoutguy said,
QuoteSo true.  Once I got my Masters in Education degree after teaching English for so many years without it, I found that I was so much smarter and such a better teacher------NOT!!!!!

High schools tend to stunt a person that way. You should have taught at the college level--and we call them ad hocs, because they are hired for a particular course or set of courses by the semester--where you could have had constant intellectual stimulation for about 1/4 the pay you got at the high school. People become very creative when they have to come up with ways to pay for food and housing. At the same time, you could be treated like dirt by your faculty colleagues. Who would want to pass that up?

wcbsas

Quote from: REDNBLACK2 on April 14, 2010, 06:29:01 PM
Quote from: jimhoops1234 on April 11, 2010, 10:44:22 PM
Does Bo bring back Will from NDSU?  Even if he might not be ready?

Who goes with Gard as assistants to UWGB?

I'm new to this board, but trying to catch up on the UWGB situation.
Sounds like Bo will really have some big shoes to fill if Guard leaves.  Seems he's been his right-hand man for so long, I got to believe he pretty much knows what Bo's thinking before he says it.
Wardle would be a great hire for Guard...keeps the current players happy too, but again if you didn't get the job would you want to work there.  What about Guard hiring Will Ryan?  Isn't Guard's brother at Platteville, and would he go after him as well?
So many questions, which will all be answered soon!

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20100415/GPG020101/100415038/1225/GPG02/UWGB-hires-Wardle-as-new-coach

Green Bay Gazette confirms Wardle is teh new UWGB head coach.  Wow.  I am amazed. 
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badgerwarhawk

I'm not really that amazed.

I guess a lot of people just figured Gard was going to get it because he had Bo's support but I'm not surprised that they decided to hire from within particularly considering Wardle has been there for five years.  The hiring gives the program continuity in staff and system plus Wardle was probably significantly involved in the recruitment of the current roster and has the recruiting connections that the program has historically relied on. 
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chmarx

At the risk of beating a dead horse, qualifications of faculty and other instructional staff are a factor in acceditation and reputation for universities. 
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stoutguy

Quote from: chmarx on April 16, 2010, 12:37:33 AM
At the risk of beating a dead horse, qualifications of faculty and other instructional staff are a factor in acceditation and reputation for universities.  
Quote from: phoenix_rising on April 15, 2010, 10:30:57 AM
Stoutguy said,
QuoteSo true.  Once I got my Masters in Education degree after teaching English for so many years without it, I found that I was so much smarter and such a better teacher------NOT!!!!!

High schools tend to stunt a person that way. You should have taught at the college level--and we call them ad hocs, because they are hired for a particular course or set of courses by the semester--where you could have had constant intellectual stimulation for about 1/4 the pay you got at the high school. People become very creative when they have to come up with ways to pay for food and housing. At the same time, you could be treated like dirt by your faculty colleagues. Who would want to pass that up?

I am constantly amazed at how poorly coaches, especially, and faculty in general, are compensated financially.  On a somewhat related topic, was it you chmarx who has decided to keep the La Crosse baseball team alive for the next 5 years by donating some big bucks?

badgerwarhawk

Awhile back I did some checking into the salaries of the coaches in the league and I'd have to agree with you Stoutguy.  In the majority of the cases if they weren't also teaching classes and sponsoring camps etc. they wouldn't be making enough to feed themselves.
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Just Bill

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 15, 2010, 12:21:32 PM
I'm not really that amazed.

I guess a lot of people just figured Gard was going to get it because he had Bo's support but I'm not surprised that they decided to hire from within particularly considering Wardle has been there for five years.  The hiring gives the program continuity in staff and system plus Wardle was probably significantly involved in the recruitment of the current roster and has the recruiting connections that the program has historically relied on. 

The only thing that surprised me was the way UWGB dragged out the search, especially since they ended up with the guy they already knew best anyway. Frankly naming five finalists, and doing a while bunch of interviews is how D-III schools hire.  We need to because we often don't know the candidates well.  But D-I's typically identify a guy and go for it. I thought it was a strange and slow process for a D-I school.
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jimhoops1234

Is there any specific amount of time the job has to be posted for before they can hire someone?   Being a state school and all.

chmarx

Quote from: stoutguy on April 16, 2010, 09:01:24 AM
Quote from: chmarx on April 16, 2010, 12:37:33 AM
At the risk of beating a dead horse, qualifications of faculty and other instructional staff are a factor in acceditation and reputation for universities.  
Quote from: phoenix_rising on April 15, 2010, 10:30:57 AM
Stoutguy said,
QuoteSo true.  Once I got my Masters in Education degree after teaching English for so many years without it, I found that I was so much smarter and such a better teacher------NOT!!!!!

High schools tend to stunt a person that way. You should have taught at the college level--and we call them ad hocs, because they are hired for a particular course or set of courses by the semester--where you could have had constant intellectual stimulation for about 1/4 the pay you got at the high school. People become very creative when they have to come up with ways to pay for food and housing. At the same time, you could be treated like dirt by your faculty colleagues. Who would want to pass that up?

I am constantly amazed at how poorly coaches, especially, and faculty in general, are compensated financially.  On a somewhat related topic, was it you chmarx who has decided to keep the La Crosse baseball team alive for the next 5 years by donating some big bucks?

Wasn't me, Stoutguy.  I am a baseball fan, but stopped going to our games years ago when the Student Senate decided baseball and softball had to charge admission.  I might have thought about it if the students weren't so concerned about someone seeing a game for free when they ignored administration plans to replace three dorms with one...
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havej

What's the skinny on the PG that just committed to LAX?  In the rotation next year?

billys

Who are you referring to?

And let me guess since it's your first post ...
You're either him or you know him? ;)

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La Crosse, Wis. – University of Wisconsin-La Crosse Head Men's Basketball Coach Ken Koelbl has announced the verbal commitment of Jack Taylor from Black River Falls (H.S.) for the 2010-11 season. Taylor attended Mercersburg Academy (Pa.) during the 2009-10 season, an independent college-preparatory school.

Taylor, a 5-10 guard, averaged 20.4 points and 4.7 assists per game as a senior in 2008-09 while shooting 42.3% from three-point range for the Tigers. He finished his career with 1,295 points, second-most in Black River Falls history, and was selected to play on the 2009 Wisconsin Basketball Coaches Association (WBCA) Division 2 North All-Star Team. Taylor was also a McDonald's All-America nominee his senior season.

He earned Associated Press (AP) All-State Honorable Mention recognition in 2007-08 and 2008-09. Taylor was also named to the WBCA Division 2 First Team All-State squad as a junior and senior and selected the 2007-08 and 2008-09 Coulee Conference Player of the Year in earning first team all-conference honors.

Averaging 24.0 points in his junior season, including scoring 48 versus West Salem, Taylor was named to the La Crosse Tribune First Team in 2007-08 and 2008-09. He earned all-conference honorable mention recognition as a sophomore in 2006-07.

A two-year team captain and MVP, Taylor was a member of the Tigers' conference championship team in 2008-09. He was a Coulee Conference Scholar-Athlete recipient and named to the Academic All-State First Team his senior season.

UW-La Crosse finished 17-9 overall and tied for third in the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC) with a 9-7 record in 2009-10.
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jimhoops1234

So the prep school route really worked out then?  I'm guessing LaCrosse was recruiting him prior to going to prep school last year.  Don't most kids go the prep school route to try to get a scholarship or possibly help their grades?  Don't think grades were an issue for Taylor.