MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[John Gleich]

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

[John Gleich]

Do you get that via their basketball page on the university website?

There was a link on the D3hoops box for the game on the front page.  Certain games have links below for audio, live stats... or even video, and EC had such a link for Monday's game.

I intentionally made the wording on my statement a bit vague because there isn't anything on their website that I could see.  I emailed their SID to try to get some more info about it.

I got an email from Kevin Meinholz, EC's SID, and he said that future video broadcasts can be found either HERE on gameday or HERE for the full schedule.  He said the links will be posted in advance but perhaps not more than a day or two, depending if he has people available.  He also said that they balance the video with hockey and other sports too, so it likely won't be all of the basketball games.

But at least it's some!

[frodotwo]

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

Hurd, Krull and Hoelzel look to have the same game skills as last year, but Lou seems a little quicker on his feet. Harris is just so quick and defensively looks to pick your pocket if you dribble too much. He gets into trouble sometimes driving into the lane and not leaving himself a good path for an outlet. Dan Tillema had an off shooting night, rushing some shots in the offense  but he will come around. Off the bench Tyler Tillema impressed me with his poise and his defense on both bigger and smaller foes and offensively didn't force any shots. Gio was money from downtown. Ritchay was capable, but Brezinski was lost on defense, giving up 3 easy baskets in his 4 minutes. LU has a nice team for being so young. I know they were picked 8th in the MWC, but they may surprise some folks there. #24 Siebert played real well until Point switched to Krull against him.

[East Beast]

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

Hurd, Krull and Hoelzel look to have the same game skills as last year, but Lou seems a little quicker on his feet. Harris is just so quick and defensively looks to pick your pocket if you dribble too much. He gets into trouble sometimes driving into the lane and not leaving himself a good path for an outlet. Dan Tillema had an off shooting night, rushing some shots in the offense  but he will come around. Off the bench Tyler Tillema impressed me with his poise and his defense on both bigger and smaller foes and offensively didn't force any shots. Gio was money from downtown. Ritchay was capable, but Brezinski was lost on defense, giving up 3 easy baskets in his 4 minutes. LU has a nice team for being so young. I know they were picked 8th in the MWC, but they may surprise some folks there. #24 Siebert played real well until Point switched to Krull against him.

Was Tillema ever at UW-Oshkosh?  I could have swore he was going there a few years back.

[wcbsas]

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

Hurd, Krull and Hoelzel look to have the same game skills as last year, but Lou seems a little quicker on his feet. Harris is just so quick and defensively looks to pick your pocket if you dribble too much. He gets into trouble sometimes driving into the lane and not leaving himself a good path for an outlet. Dan Tillema had an off shooting night, rushing some shots in the offense  but he will come around. Off the bench Tyler Tillema impressed me with his poise and his defense on both bigger and smaller foes and offensively didn't force any shots. Gio was money from downtown. Ritchay was capable, but Brezinski was lost on defense, giving up 3 easy baskets in his 4 minutes. LU has a nice team for being so young. I know they were picked 8th in the MWC, but they may surprise some folks there. #24 Siebert played real well until Point switched to Krull against him.

Was Tillema ever at UW-Oshkosh?  I could have swore he was going there a few years back.

Dan Tillema accpeted a scholarship to U-Duluth.  Played there a half-semester and then transaferred to UWO.  He did not play there and decided to transfer to UWSP to play along with his brother.

[East Beast]

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

Hurd, Krull and Hoelzel look to have the same game skills as last year, but Lou seems a little quicker on his feet. Harris is just so quick and defensively looks to pick your pocket if you dribble too much. He gets into trouble sometimes driving into the lane and not leaving himself a good path for an outlet. Dan Tillema had an off shooting night, rushing some shots in the offense  but he will come around. Off the bench Tyler Tillema impressed me with his poise and his defense on both bigger and smaller foes and offensively didn't force any shots. Gio was money from downtown. Ritchay was capable, but Brezinski was lost on defense, giving up 3 easy baskets in his 4 minutes. LU has a nice team for being so young. I know they were picked 8th in the MWC, but they may surprise some folks there. #24 Siebert played real well until Point switched to Krull against him.

Was Tillema ever at UW-Oshkosh?  I could have swore he was going there a few years back.

Dan Tillema accpeted a scholarship to U-Duluth.  Played there a half-semester and then transaferred to UWO.  He did not play there and decided to transfer to UWSP to play along with his brother.

Maybe it was the rigorous academics at UW-Oshkosh that caused him to move on ?

[John Gleich]

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

Hurd, Krull and Hoelzel look to have the same game skills as last year, but Lou seems a little quicker on his feet. Harris is just so quick and defensively looks to pick your pocket if you dribble too much. He gets into trouble sometimes driving into the lane and not leaving himself a good path for an outlet. Dan Tillema had an off shooting night, rushing some shots in the offense  but he will come around. Off the bench Tyler Tillema impressed me with his poise and his defense on both bigger and smaller foes and offensively didn't force any shots. Gio was money from downtown. Ritchay was capable, but Brezinski was lost on defense, giving up 3 easy baskets in his 4 minutes. LU has a nice team for being so young. I know they were picked 8th in the MWC, but they may surprise some folks there. #24 Siebert played real well until Point switched to Krull against him.

Was Tillema ever at UW-Oshkosh?  I could have swore he was going there a few years back.

Dan Tillema accpeted a scholarship to U-Duluth.  Played there a half-semester and then transaferred to UWO.  He did not play there and decided to transfer to UWSP to play along with his brother.

Maybe it was the rigorous academics at UW-Oshkosh that caused him to move on ?

Dan wanted to play with his brother.  And he wanted a chance to play for a championship.  He accomplished both last year.

[Just Bill]

Maybe it was the rigorous academics at UW-Oshkosh that caused him to move on ?

When you do that, you need to use one of these:  

[John Gleich]

Anybody catch the SNC/Oshkosh game last night?  I don't think the result was surprising, given the outlook for both teams.

[UWBadgers]

Or maybe he was academically ineligible to play at Oshkosh andthe Oshkosh staff was kind enough to keep that hush hush for Dan's sake. And in addition maybe his brother didn't have the grades to join him in Oshkosh but together they both could play at Point? People are always quick to rip on TVD for any mistakes but they never realize some of the things that go under the radar that he does to protect kids.

I see DeVon Jackson didn't play against Lawrence for the Pointers tonight.  Does someone know if he is hurt?  I figure Ziemer, Pohle and Johnston are still hurt considering they didn't play in the Purple/Gold game and didn't play tonight, even when Semling emptied the bench.

Per the radio broadcast last night, Jackson isn't eligible to play until after finals this first semester.  Also, Semling didn't expect to have Ziemer until late December or January either.  Not sure about Pohle or Johnston.

All four were in street clothes on the bench. Missing was Jared Jenkins.

Did you make the trip to Apple Town?  If so, what were your impressions (general, versus the purple/gold game, etc)?

Hurd, Krull and Hoelzel look to have the same game skills as last year, but Lou seems a little quicker on his feet. Harris is just so quick and defensively looks to pick your pocket if you dribble too much. He gets into trouble sometimes driving into the lane and not leaving himself a good path for an outlet. Dan Tillema had an off shooting night, rushing some shots in the offense  but he will come around. Off the bench Tyler Tillema impressed me with his poise and his defense on both bigger and smaller foes and offensively didn't force any shots. Gio was money from downtown. Ritchay was capable, but Brezinski was lost on defense, giving up 3 easy baskets in his 4 minutes. LU has a nice team for being so young. I know they were picked 8th in the MWC, but they may surprise some folks there. #24 Siebert played real well until Point switched to Krull against him.

Was Tillema ever at UW-Oshkosh?  I could have swore he was going there a few years back.

Dan Tillema accpeted a scholarship to U-Duluth.  Played there a half-semester and then transaferred to UWO.  He did not play there and decided to transfer to UWSP to play along with his brother.

Maybe it was the rigorous academics at UW-Oshkosh that caused him to move on ?

Dan wanted to play with his brother.  And he wanted a chance to play for a championship.  He accomplished both last year.

[cubs]

Anybody catch the SNC/Oshkosh game last night?  I don't think the result was surprising, given the outlook for both teams.

I went to the game last night....  Looks like a repeat of last year for Oshkosh, minus DJ Marsh, which means nobody to take over and win a few more games.  Looking at the WIAC, I have a hard wime coming up with more than a couple of wins for UWO this season.  No movement on offense, few screens, and trying to pound it inside to guys that aren't true "post" players.  About the only positive, was that they played solid defensively.  If you told me they would hold SNC under 60, I would have thought they may have had a chance to win.

As far as SNC goes, it's hard to believe they are a Top 10 team in the nation.  They were not very impressive at all last night, other than Wipperfurth.

[John Gleich]

Maybe it was the rigorous academics at UW-Oshkosh that caused him to move on ?

Or maybe he was academically ineligible to play at Oshkosh andthe Oshkosh staff was kind enough to keep that hush hush for Dan's sake. And in addition maybe his brother didn’t have the grades to join him in Oshkosh but together they both could play at Point? People are always quick to rip on TVD for any mistakes but they never realize some of the things that go under the radar that he does to protect kids.

Wow guys, there's nothing like ripping on players when you have NO FRICKING IDEA ABOUT THE SITUATION!   

These are college kids, let's give them the benefit of the doubt, not drag their names through mud.

Did it occur to you that, in "protecting" TVD, you threw not one student athlete but two under the bus?  Try reading point #1 on this site's Terms of Service.  You're making unsubstantiated claims, based purely on conjectures with no proof behind them.

Did it ever occur to you that you might be wrong?  And if you're wrong, you've slandered another person in the process?

And let me get this straight... in defending TVD in this hypothetical situation that you say might have occurred, you'd be doing the exact OPPOSITE of what TVD (again, in the hypothetical situation) did.  So, TVD's got class to protect a kid, but you haven't got any?

And besides, I thought it was the coach's job to take the heat, not the player.

And again, there's no proof for this whatsoever.  On the contrary, there IS substantiated proof that Dan Tillema was burned out after his one year at UMD (per Coach Semling).  After a little time off, he missed the game and wanted to play again.  I don't pretend to know what, if anything, happened while he was at Oshkosh, if he ever intended to play there or not, but whatever the case may be, he ended up at UWSP, with his brother, and was very successful last year, with very positive prospects this year and beyond.  By all accounts, he is happy with his decision, and we should be happy for him.


Having personally gone to a D-II school far from home to play basketball and not having it turn out the way I had originally planned, I can relate to Dan's situation.  I know how frustrating it can be and how it can affect you as a person and as a player.  I know I was greatful to have a new beginning and a fresh start and though things didn't pan out for me individually (losing half of my redshirt year at Michigan Tech sure didn't help, plus I was on some amazing teams at SP with lots of great players) the experience turned out to be a positive one for me, none the less.  I know that Kyle Grusczynski was much the same way when he transferred from Wisconsin.  Sometimes things just don't pan out at one school and it takes a fresh start to get things right.

Again, I can't speak for Oshkosh, but I know at Stevens Point, they're looking for a certain type of player, but more importantely, they're looking for a certain type of person.  It isn't an accident that so many families have made their way through the program over the years (the Bennetts, the Kalsows, the Krulls, the Grusczynskis, now the Tillemas).  When you have a certain type of person (a common theme among families), they fit well in the system.

That isn't to say, at all, that the other WIAC schools aren't like this.  One of the things that makes this conference great is that it has teams led by great basketball minds who are great people too and carry themselves (and lead their programs) in the right way.  Nobody's perfect and there are mistakes from time to time, but by and large, the programs run from the top down and are a reflection of the coach.  And we've got some great ones in this league.


Enough of my diatribe.  Let's try to keep things positive here and not bring people down.  It serves no purpose.

Even I, with my "unrigorous" UW Stevens Point education (BS mathematics) know that.

[Just Bill]

If he was academically ineligible to play at UW-Oshkosh, that would automatically make him academically ineligible to play at UW-Stevens Point, which of course, he wasn't.  No "kindness" from the UW-Oshkosh coaching staff can alter an official university transcript or keep that fact from being apparent in the transfer process.

[fredfalcon]

Led by Manor's 25 pts. in 22 minutes and Anderson's 15 pts. in  19 minutes, RF beat Simpson 90-69 in the first round of the Northwestern College Tournament. The Falcons led 55-33 at half. Anderson was 5/8 on threes, Manor was 10/13 on f.g., 1/1 on threes. No starter played more than 28 minutes. Hannigan got 11 points in 14 minutes off the bench.

[John Gleich]

A couple of finals from earlier tonight:

@ Wheaton:  Whitewater 95 Defiance 91  (yikes...!)

@ Platteville:  Wash U 62 Eau Claire 57

La Crosse 86 Wisc Lutheran 54

RF 90 Simpson 69

Platteville 66 Clarke 49

Superior also host(ed?) Macalaster tonight.