MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[cubs]

Augustana looks like they will give Point trouble with their size.  They seem to be as big as the Mich. Tech team we scrimmaged in the beginning of the season.  6'9" to 6'7". We will need to limit their second chances and run a little more.  If this game slows done to a half court contest, IMO we may be in trouble.  Hass and the Tillemas need to be on!

Don't let their size fool you....  They can run the floor just fine!!!!

[tomt4525]

I couldn't agree more that Stout could benefit from a little change at the top.  With that said, I have to disagree some with your expectations.  I definitely don't see Oshkosh being in the top 3.  After watching River Falls against St Thomas, I think they might be the class of the league at this point and hate to say it, but a matchup nightmare for Stevens Point.  Also, when Cross comes back for Platteville, I see them as a better team than Oshkosh as well.

While you may end up being correct, I don't think you are giving Oshkosh enough credit.   After watching them play Augustana earlier in the season, this Titans team may sneak up on more than just you.

Definitely looks to be that way as of today.  Oshkosh got a big win.  The season is very early so we'll see what happens from here on out, but it does look like Oshkosh is a lot better than I assumed they would be after their roster was gutted from last year.  Looking at stats from a few games it looks like Mathwig is a very impressive freshman.

[tomt4525]

Well, I thought the Oshy/RF game was over...now I see it's going to double OT...I still believe everything I said but take out the big win part for Oshy, atleast for now.

[cubs]

I couldn't agree more that Stout could benefit from a little change at the top.  With that said, I have to disagree some with your expectations.  I definitely don't see Oshkosh being in the top 3.  After watching River Falls against St Thomas, I think they might be the class of the league at this point and hate to say it, but a matchup nightmare for Stevens Point.  Also, when Cross comes back for Platteville, I see them as a better team than Oshkosh as well.

While you may end up being correct, I don't think you are giving Oshkosh enough credit.   After watching them play Augustana earlier in the season, this Titans team may sneak up on more than just you.

Definitely looks to be that way as of today.  Oshkosh got a big win.  The season is very early so we'll see what happens from here on out, but it does look like Oshkosh is a lot better than I assumed they would be after their roster was gutted from last year.   Looking at stats from a few games it looks like Mathwig is a very impressive freshman.

Sometimes it's addition by subtraction.....

[Falcons04]

RF comes back to beat OSH 105-99 in 2OT.  Don't have stats yet, but I think Manor had 25 (12 in OT's) after going scoreless in first half.  RF was down 3 at half and if I heard correctly they didn't have a lead or tie in the 2nd half until Manor made a layup at the buzzer to tie. 

[cubs]

RF comes back to beat OSH 105-99 in 2OT.  Don't have stats yet, but I think Manor had 25 (12 in OT's) after going scoreless in first half.  RF was down 3 at half and if I heard correctly they didn't have a lead or tie in the 2nd half until Manor made a layup at the buzzer to tie.

River Falls tied it with just over 13:00 minutes to go 58-58....

[emerging1]

Augustana 69, UWSP 64 - final.  A lot of questions about Point after listening to this game.

[John Gleich]

Point falls to Augie 69-64.  Point led by 3 at the half and Augie had as much as a 12 point lead in the second half.  Point chipped away and ran out of time in the end.



After shooting about 55% in the first half, the shooting fell off quite a bit in the second half again.


Point had NO bench points tonight and just 2 from Hass:


Tillema,Tyler   *   13-21   1-6   2-3   9   2   4   29
Giordana,Jordan   *   1-5   1-3   2-2   6   0   3   5
Tillema,Dan           *   4-12   2-8   6-6   4   2   4   16
Hass, Trevor   *   1-9   0-5   0-0   1   1   3   2
Brezinski,Jordan   *   4-5   0-0   1-5   1   0   4   9
Ryf, Austin              0-1   0-0   0-0   3   0   2   0
Ritchay, Joe      0-1   0-1   0-0   0   1   0   0
Richard, Alex      0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0   3   0

[John Gleich]

Augustana 69, UWSP 64 - final.  A lot of questions about Point after listening to this game.

I'm not so sure about that... they lost to the #4 team in the country in a tough game.  Augie is bigger and deeper and more experience than Point.

I think that Point will kind of kick it in gear towards the end of the year (barring injuries to key players) after the Freshmen get more experience.

[emerging1]

Taking nothing away from Augustana ... but this game sounded like it was well within our reach.  We seem to have trouble making any adjustments.  When we get exposed in a match up we don't seem to help or adjust the defense.  We also need to develop some kind of inside game to offset when we are off outside.  Our bigs need to play a more significant role - a dish n kick or pick n role would help.  We need to find more balance in scoring - two guys can't be expected to carry us.  When a player is off or losing confidence, why keep him on the floor?  I understand everyone has a tough game but you need to give your team the best chance to score.  Same is true for a player who is obviously trying to do too much on his own.  We can learn from this and will need to because it doesn't get any easier in the next seven days! 

[Titan Q]

Taking nothing away from Augustana ... but this game sounded like it was well within our reach.  We seem to have trouble making any adjustments.  When we get exposed in a match up we don't seem to help or adjust the defense.  We also need to develop some kind of inside game to offset when we are off outside.  Our bigs need to play a more significant role - a dish n kick or pick n role would help.  We need to find more balance in scoring - two guys can't be expected to carry us.  When a player is off or losing confidence, why keep him on the floor?  I understand everyone has a tough game but you need to give your team the best chance to score.  Same is true for a player who is obviously trying to do too much on his own.  We can learn from this and will need to because it doesn't get any easier in the next seven days!

I watched the game online and I think it is as simple as saying Augustana was too big and too physical for the Pointers.  UWSP is a good team, but Augustana is better.  I'm not sure you need to over-analyze this one too much.

[emerging1]

My comments and concerns aren't based only on this game.  Things seem to be patterned.  I just listened to the coach on the radio.  He oddly enough echoed some of the same concerns.  IMO we will need to quickly develop a deeper bench.  Coach saying, "I had no one to bring in" isn't a good situation.  Let's see what happens from here.

[John Gleich]

Taking nothing away from Augustana ... but this game sounded like it was well within our reach.  We seem to have trouble making any adjustments.  When we get exposed in a match up we don't seem to help or adjust the defense.  We also need to develop some kind of inside game to offset when we are off outside.  Our bigs need to play a more significant role - a dish n kick or pick n role would help.  We need to find more balance in scoring - two guys can't be expected to carry us.  When a player is off or losing confidence, why keep him on the floor?  I understand everyone has a tough game but you need to give your team the best chance to score.  Same is true for a player who is obviously trying to do too much on his own.  We can learn from this and will need to because it doesn't get any easier in the next seven days!

I'm not sure if you were able to listen to the Post-game, but Hass had an allergic reaction to something mid-week and didn't practice leading up to the game... He had 2 points on 1/9 shooting.

If he's healthy can can provide his average (10 points) this is possibly a different ball game.


Point tried to pound the ball in to Brezinski in the last few minutes and he had a couple of layups rim out but did get fouled.  I think that they need to go to that much earlier and much more often, especially in a game like this, when the ball isn't falling from outside (5/24 from deep with one of those coming with 2 seconds left).


The reason why they have to keep those guys on the floor is because they simply don't have anybody else to replace them at this point!

The three freshmen who came in off the bench didn't score... and they're better than the ones who kept their warm-ups on.



Coach Sem said it in the postgame interview... SP likely should have had about a 10 point lead at the halftime based on how they were shooting but they let up a little bit on the defensive end and they ended up needing those points in the end.


SP gave up 14 offensive rebounds and 34 free throws.  Now, some of those were in the end... but a bunch of them were due to letting up offensive rebounds.  It isn't enough to say that SP was the smaller team.  That's true... but they got outrebounded 43-29... for a team that came into the game outrebounding their opponents by 5 per game.

They started off well... but then they got tired because they lacked the depth.



All of that said, I think that Brezinski needs to become a bigger part of the offense.  He's a good post-up player when given enough room... and if he DOESN'T have the room, then that means that one of the outside shooters is going to be open.

[emerging1]

I don't mean to dwell on the point, but the fact that we need to have a more balanced effort - more of an inside presence - is a condition from the beginning of the season.  That's an adjustment that needs to be made.  And yes, I did listen to Coach Sem after the game but if Hass is sick, you mean to tell me there are no other guards who came come in for a sick player?  I really thought his comment about not having "anyone else to bring in" was probably not the best choice of words.  Perhaps all will be better on Wednesday.  Go Point!

[Gregory Sager]

Taking nothing away from Augustana ... but this game sounded like it was well within our reach.  We seem to have trouble making any adjustments.  When we get exposed in a match up we don't seem to help or adjust the defense.  We also need to develop some kind of inside game to offset when we are off outside.  Our bigs need to play a more significant role - a dish n kick or pick n role would help.  We need to find more balance in scoring - two guys can't be expected to carry us.  When a player is off or losing confidence, why keep him on the floor?  I understand everyone has a tough game but you need to give your team the best chance to score.  Same is true for a player who is obviously trying to do too much on his own.  We can learn from this and will need to because it doesn't get any easier in the next seven days!

I watched the game online and I think it is as simple as saying Augustana was too big and too physical for the Pointers.  UWSP is a good team, but Augustana is better.  I'm not sure you need to over-analyze this one too much.

Exactly, although I would add that Augie is too deep for UWSP as well.