MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[frodotwo]

I was looking at the box score for UWSP's game at Buena Vista last night...

BV had 22 assists last night on 25 field goals. That's just about as high a percentage as I've ever seen. 

Ultimately, Point won last night because they shot a higher percentage (53.6%) and didn't turn the ball over (8 turnovers).  They overcame a better shooting night from deep (BV was 8/18 from 3. Point was 6/16), but Point had 5 more shots and made 5 more baskets than BV.

I listened to the game and from the description of the plays it sounded like many of the jump shot assist situations were extended to include a few dribbles after the pass. Whether or not  making another move after the pass negates an assist situation I don't know.

[Just Bill]

I was looking at the box score for UWSP's game at Buena Vista last night...

BV had 22 assists last night on 25 field goals. That's just about as high a percentage as I've ever seen. 

Ultimately, Point won last night because they shot a higher percentage (53.6%) and didn't turn the ball over (8 turnovers).  They overcame a better shooting night from deep (BV was 8/18 from 3. Point was 6/16), but Point had 5 more shots and made 5 more baskets than BV.

I listened to the game and from the description of the plays it sounded like many of the jump shot assist situations were extended to include a few dribbles after the pass. Whether or not  making another move after the pass negates an assist situation I don't know.

Always a judgment call. There's no rule that X number of dribbles automatically negates an assist. Stat keepers are asked to judge whether the pass was instrumental in getting the player open to make the shot. Generally if the scoring player had to "do too much" on their own, then you don't credit an assist. Or if the assist is disconnected from the shot (like a defender deflected the ball away temporarily, or the shooter had to make his own move to free himself) then you wouldn't award an assist.

There's a lot of gray area and the people keeping stats don't have the luxury of hitting rewind and reviewing a play. They have to make the call on the spot. Some places are known for being more generous with assists than others, and occasionally some places tend to lean toward the home team, due to having better familiarity with players.

If you're interested in some dry reading here's the NCAA Stat Manual. Assists are Section 5 and it begins on Page 9...

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/Stats_Manuals/Basketball/2012EZ.pdf

SECTION 5—ASSISTS
A player is credited with an assist when the player makes, in
the judgment of the statistician, the principal pass contributing
directly to a fi eld goal (or an awarded score of two or three
points). Only one assist is to be credited on any fi eld goal and
only when the pass was a major part of the play. The same player
cannot be credited with an assist and a fi eld goal made on
the same possession.

Such a pass should be either (a) a pass that fi nds a player
free after he or she has maneuvered without the ball for a positional
advantage, or (b) a pass that gives the receiving player a
positional advantage he or she otherwise would not have had.

Philosophy.
An assist should be more than a routine pass
that just happens to be followed by a fi eld goal. It should be a
conscious eff ort to fi nd the open player or to help a player work
free. There should not be a limit on the number of dribbles by
the receiver. It is not even necessary that the assist be given
on the last pass. There is no restraint on the distance or type of
shot made, for these are not the crucial factors in determining
whether an assist should be credited.

[John Gleich]

New Top 25 out

Whitewater stays at #3 and loses 2 first place votes but gains 37 points in the poll. (on average, about a position and a half higher)
Stevens Point jumps from 15th to 9th and gains 220 points in the poll. (On average, almost 9 positions higher in the poll)

Platteville and La Crosse are both receiving votes... 12 and 11 respectively.


Whitewater has a big game tomorrow, as they travel to #7 Illinois Wesleyan.

[ExBBaller40]

UW-Eau Claire downed Loras 71-58. Was close in the second half until Blugolds finally broke it open from deep with some 3-pointers from Petersen and Mau to create the final margin. That shooting is going to have to carry the Blugolds this season.

[John Gleich]

Tyler Tillema WIAC player of the week LINK

[Greek Tragedy]

And Trevor Hass was Week 1 WIAC POTY LINK 

[Greek Tragedy]

Whitewater down 28-25 at the half at Ill. Wes.

Platteville getting hammered at Augustana 39-23

La Crosse up big on Bethany Lutheran 61-43 with about 7 min to go

[02 Warhawk]

Hawks up 5 early in the second half, 35-30

[02 Warhawk]

UWW up seven with 4:00 left

[02 Warhawk]

Looks like UWW is going on to win. Always nice to beat a top 10 team on the road

[02 Warhawk]

Final 71-65, UWW

[Pioneer_fan04]

Platteville drops their first game of the season 69-57 at Augustana.  Chas Cross and Rob Stallion both limp of the court in the 2nd half hopefully theyre alright. 

[Titan Q]

Voice, wasn't sure if easier to catch you here or back on CCIW board...

Darnell Harris never attended prep school in La Jolla, CA only Christian Life Center Academy in Humble, Texas last year

Voice, it seems to me that Harris left his Milwaukee H.S. after his JR year and played at Christian Life Center Academy in Texas during the 2010-11 season.  This article from August 2010 mentions him heading there - http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/101441709.html

But for 2011-12 it seems that he was at LaJolla Prep. Here is video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMgfLq9wHkY

(Just from watching the video I'm 100% sure that is the same Darnell Harris that lit the Titans up last night.)

Here is a MaxPreps player page: http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/Noo5qJG9E02_-g6BMdR8rw/basketball-winter-11-12/profile-darnell-harris.htm

And a boxscore from 12/11/12 (LaJolla Prep vs L.A. Trade Tech): http://www.saddleback.edu/athletics/basketball/brum01.htm

Here is mention of his committing to Cleveland State (from LaJolla Prep): http://clevelandstatehoops.blogspot.com/2011/09/darnell-harris-commits-to-cleveland.html

[badgerwarhawk]

Illinois Wesleyan scored the game's first eight points before the WARHAWKS got on the board.  Wesleyan's lead grew to double digits twice in the half but the WARHAWKS gradually cut into it getting to within a single point twice before the half ended with Wesleyan up three, 28-25.  Wesleyan pounded the boards in the first half holding a 20-9 advantage and shot 52% from the floor to the WARHAWKS 38% but the game stayed close because the WARHAWKS forced 17 Wesleyan turnovers while committing just 7 themselves.  Darnell Harris led all scorers with 11 points which included 3 of 5 from beyond the arch.  The complexion of the game changed quickly in the second half as Harris and Luke Knoble combined for all 14 points of a 14-2 run by the WARHAWKS giving them a 39-30 lead.  IWU came back to tie the game 41-41 but the WARHAWKS eventually increased the lead to 11 points, 68-57, with slightly more than a minute to play and held on for the 71-65 victory.

Harris had a huge night leading all scorers with 32 points and finished 6 of 8 on three-pointers.  Knoble finished with 18 points and Quardell Young added 11 to round out WARHAWKS with double figure points.  Young finished with a game high 7 assists while Harris and Eric Bryson had a team high 6 rebounds apiece.  The WARHAWKS shot 69% from the floor in the second half and finished at 54% for the game.  The WARHAWKS had a 31 to 8 advantage in points off of turnovers including 10 to 0 on fast breaks.  Though they were outrebounded 34-21 the WARHAWKS outscored IWU 36-22 in the paint. 

A nice road win over a ranked team.  Travel to Stout for a game on Saturday.

[02 Warhawk]

Illinois Wesleyan scored the game's first eight points before the WARHAWKS got on the board.  Wesleyan's lead grew to double digits twice in the half but the WARHAWKS gradually cut into it getting to within a single point twice before the half ended with Wesleyan up three, 28-25.  Wesleyan pounded the boards in the first half holding a 20-9 advantage and shot 52% from the floor to the WARHAWKS 38% but the game stayed close because the WARHAWKS forced 17 Wesleyan turnovers while committing just 7 themselves.  Darnell Harris led all scorers with 11 points which included 3 of 5 from beyond the arch.  The complexion of the game changed quickly in the second half as Harris and Luke Knoble combined for all 14 points of a 14-2 run by the WARHAWKS giving them a 39-30 lead.  IWU came back to tie the game 41-41 but the WARHAWKS eventually increased the lead to 11 points, 68-57, with slightly more than a minute to play and held on for the 71-65 victory.

Harris had a huge night leading all scorers with 32 points and finished 6 of 8 on three-pointers.  Knoble finished with 18 points and Quardell Young added 11 to round out WARHAWKS with double figure points.  Young finished with a game high 7 assists while Harris and Eric Bryson had a team high 6 rebounds apiece.  The WARHAWKS shot 69% from the floor in the second half and finished at 54% for the game.  The WARHAWKS had a 31 to 8 advantage in points off of turnovers including 10 to 0 on fast breaks.  Though they were outrebounded 34-21 the WARHAWKS outscored IWU 36-22 in the paint. 

A nice road win over a ranked team.  Travel to Stout for a game on Saturday.

Hopefully this Harris kid can turn into something special.....especially only being a Freshman. He was fun to watch last night. He was everywhere.