MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Greek Tragedy]

PS,

I beg to differ.  Wooster beat an opponent on the road that was receiving a good number of votes and then hammered #24 DePauw. I'm not saying they will jump Point, but I would not be at all surprised if they did.

In fact, I would be MORE surprised if Amherst and Point simply swapped spots with Wooster staying at #3. Amherst lost to an average Emerson team (they lost to Lesley by double digits-Lesley has one win). I might agree with you had Amherst lost to Middlebiry or Williams etc., but dropping just one spot after losing to Emerson, I would be surprised.

[madzillagd]

I think Cabrini will get some love being 8-0 having played 2 more games than Amherst and coming out unscathed.  I'm expecting SP, Wooster, Cabrini, Amherst, IWU, WW or Williams.  Amherst had some key guys out yesterday and if they don't get them back they could have a tough week against Brandeis and Babson.

[Greek Tragedy]

Just moving this to the current page



POSTER'S WIAC PLAYER OF THE WEEK-DEC. 2-8

VOTE NOW!!!! LURKERS INCLUDED! 


CANDIDATES


Bronson Byrne-Superior
vs Stout: 13 pts, 11 rebs, 2ast, 2 blks
vs OSH: 10 pts, 8 rebs, 2 ast, 5 blks

Chas Cross-Platteville
vs OSH: 20 pts, 17 rebs, 5 blks
at RF: 12 pts, 7 rebs, 3 ast, 2 blks

Aaron Jenny-Stout
at SUP: 24 pts, 6 rebs, 4 ast, 5 stls
vs WW: 12 pts, 6rebs, 2 ast

Ollie White-River Falls
at LC: 13 pts, 4 rebs, 3 stls, 1 ast
vs PL: 18 pts, 3 rebs, 3 stls, 1 ast

Reggie Hearn-Whitewater
at Beloit: 25 pts, 7 rebs
at ST: 15 pts, 9 rebs, 2 ast
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[John Gleich]

PS,

I beg to differ.  Wooster beat an opponent on the road that was receiving a good number of votes and then hammered #24 DePauw. I'm not saying they will jump Point, but I would not be at all surprised if they did.

In fact, I would be MORE surprised if Amherst and Point simply swapped spots with Wooster staying at #3. Amherst lost to an average Emerson team (they lost to Lesley by double digits-Lesley has one win). I might agree with you had Amherst lost to Middlebiry or Williams etc., but dropping just one spot after losing to Emerson, I would be surprised.

I'm not going to say that Wooster hasn't played a tougher schedule up to this point... frankly, they have (based on composite record, Massey schedule-ranking, sniff test, etc). Wooster has handed "lone losses" to Bald Wally and Marietta and beat the two aforementioned (or at least aforealluded) (?) one-loss teams of Ohio Wesleyan and DePauw.

The "best" (in terms of record) team that SP has beaten is Edgewood, at 5-2. However, Stevens Point's mettle will be tested over the next month... playing 8 squads in the next month in Massey's top 1000 (and a 9th in St. John that's ranked 1002).  Wooster, on the other hand, plays 6 opponents over the next 5 weeks, none of whom crack the top 1000.


I guess the bottom line comes down to this... Point was more highly regarded in the preseason than Wooster. Both teams have won all of their games, (Wooster's margin against tougher competition is markedly closer... 9.2 ppg vs Point at 24.4). If anything, one might suggest that, even though they've played tougher competition, if Wooster was the top team in the land, they should have beaten their more-highly regarded opponents by a greater margin than 5, 6, 3, and 8 (the margins of the wins vs Bald Wally, Wheaton, Marietta, and Ohio Wesleyan).

In the end, it doesn't really matter... both teams are top 5 teams. Perhaps more interesting than the "who's better than who" or "who will be ranked ahead of who" (which are different arguments), I find it interesting that Wooster and Stevens Point have never played. For all of the success that Wooster has had over its 112 years (2nd in D-III with 1577 wins and a 5th best .672 winning percentage) and Stevens Point has had over its 114 years (11th in D-III with 1375 wins and 17th .640 best winning percentage) they've still never met.

Two teams that HAVE met with great frequency over the past 100+ years are Stevens Point and Whitewater.  They've played 179 times since 1912, with Stevens Point holding a 99-80 edge. Not only that, but Stevens Point has won each of the last 7 matchups, going back to Point's 3rd natty championship season of 2009-2010 in the conference tournament.

[AppletonRocks]

Who is leading the Dunkel ratings?   

[Greek Tragedy]

NEW POLL is out.

As expected by most, Point jumps to #1, going from 598 points and 6 first place votes to 611 and 16.

Wooster goes to #2, going from 565 and no first place votes to 602 and 8.  Wooster gained 24 points on Point.

Whitewater drops 84 points and goes from 4th to 8th.

With the win over Whitewater, Stout jumps from ORV to 19th and gains 131 points.

Despite winning twice last week, Platteville goes from 9 votes (after dropping out of the Top 25-was #20 in Week 1 with 106 points) to zero votes.

Former #1 Amherst drops from 1st to 7th and loses 147 points.

[havej]

Whitehead player of week based on performance and quality of opponent.  Cross / Jenny tied for 2nd

[Greek Tragedy]

Whitehead player of week based on performance and quality of opponent.  Cross / Jenny tied for 2nd

I didn't want to take two from one team. Jenny's numbers slightly better than Whitehead's, though Whitehead outscored Jenny by 6. Jenny didn't cough up the ball four times in the 1st game. Jenny's line of 24 pts, 6 rebs, 4 assists, 5 steals and zero TOs is pretty impressive.

It was though this week as no player had two outstanding games.

[Greek Tragedy]

The WIAC picked Alex Oman as their Pllayer of the Week. Congrats! He joins Jimmy Whitehead and Tyler Tillema as POTYs

http://wiacsports.com/sports/2013/11/19/MBB_1119132243.aspx?path=mbball

[havej]

Greek you're right about Jenny's line being impressive.  He's had a very good year to date.  If they get Ragland back and they continue to get solid inside support, they could easily challenge WW for the 2nd spot.  Stout, similar to last year, could very well place three on the always prestigious all WIAC team (although it's a bit early for that).

[Greek Tragedy]

Greek you're right about Jenny's line being impressive.  He's had a very good year to date.  If they get Ragland back and they continue to get solid inside support, they could easily challenge WW for the 2nd spot.

I wouldn't count out 1st place yet. From the looks of it, Whitewater is pretty darn good too. So to concede 1st place to Point already isn't realistic.  So, the Blue Devils could challenge Point and Whitewater for the crown. Platteville has Cross and La Crosse is balanced. It should be a great WIAC year.

[SgtPaul]

Looking forward to seeing tomorrow night's Whitewater at Stevens Point Game.  Just wish the weather was not going to be so darn cold!

[Greek Tragedy]

GREEK TRAGEDY'S RANDOM IN-SEASON WIAC POWER RANKINGS

STEVENS POINT 5-0 overall, 1-0 WIAC, 1-0 for the week
WON at Eau Claire 74-55: No Tillema, no problem as Point rolled to an easy victory. Lutz came in off the bench to score 13, while Ritchay and Hass scored 13 and 14, respectively. Transfer Stephen Pelkofer benefitted from Tillema's absence by playing 30 minutes and finishing with 4 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Wednesday vs. Whitewater
Saturday at St. John's

STOUT 7-1, 2-0, 2-0
WON at Superior 79-68: The two-headed monster of Aaron Jenny and transfer Jimmy Whitehead took care of the Yellowjackets up in Canada. Whitehead finished with 23 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Jenny had a great stat-line of 24 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 5 steals. He did not commit a turnover either.
WON vs. Whitewater 74-69: Whitehead lead the way to an upset win over visiting Whitewater with 19 points, 4 boards and 4 dimes. Alex Oman chipped in with 20 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Wednesday at River Falls

LA CROSSE 6-1, 2-0, 2-0
WON vs. River Falls 80-52: The Eagles rolled over the Falcons building a 23-point halftime lead. Calahan Skogman was the man with 15 points and 3 rebounds. The bench got plenty of playing time as  Cale Zuiker scored 12 and Trent Schmidt contributed 11 points.
WON vs. Eau Claire 75-59: Lucas Collom lead the way this time with 17 points, 9 rebounds and 4 assists. Brad Tice also helped the cause with 13 and 3, including 3 assists. Schmidt chipped in 14 off the pine.

Wednesday at Oshkosh

PLATTEVILLE 6-2, 2-0, 2-0
WON vs. Oshkosh 80-66: A balanced attack lead the Pioneers to victory over the Titans. All five starters scored in double-figures for the hosts. Chas Cross dominated with 20 points and 17 rebounds. Jim Stocki had 15 and 4 assists, while Boston Johnson had a great day with 13 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks.
WON at River Falls 66-48: Four players hit double-figures for the road win. Johnson lead the way with 16 and 8, Cross with a modest 12 and 7 and Gerber did his share with 12 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

Wednesday at Eau Claire
Saturday at Carthage

WHITEWATER 5-1, 0-1, 1-1
WON at Beloit 93-62: Big nonconference win in Beloit as Reggie Hearn couldn't be stopped. He had 25 points and 7 rebounds. Evans had 10 and 9, while Bryson and Young each had 10 in the easy win.
LOST at Stout 74-69: The Warhawks were surprised in Stout as they might have worn down at the end of the game. Four starters played 35 minutes or more for the visitors. Bryson and Hearn had 15 apiece while the latter added 9 rebounds. Evans added 12 points and 5 rebounds. Young chipped in with 11 points and 5 assists.

Wednesday at Stevens Point

SUPERIOR 3-4, 1-1, 1-1
LOST to Stout 79-68: The Yellowjackets lost a tough one at home. Jarrod Peterson did all he could as he went for 17 points, 9 rebounds and 3 assists. Bronson Byrne helped out with 13 and 11.
WON vs. Oshkosh 77-71: Superior pulled out the win as Tilyn Hollis lead the team in scoring with 18 points. Peterson scored 16 to go along with 5 rebounds and 2 assists. Brian Lindblom added 14 points, 5 boards and 2 dimes. Byrne also helped out with 10, 8 and 4 blocks.

Tuesday vs. Northwestern (MN)
Saturday vs. Buena Vista

EAU CLAIRE 4-4, 0-2, 0-2
LOST to Stevens Point 74-55: Falling behind 14 at the break, the Blugolds couldn't get the come-from-behind victory. In a losing effort, Hjelter lead the way with 19 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists, while Moody chipped in with 10 and 4 and Mau added 10 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists.
LOST at La Crosse 75-59: The visitors couldn't notch their first conference victory as they fell at La Crosse. Kohner lead the way with 12 points, as Mau had 11 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. Moody chipped in with 9 and 9.

Wednesday at Platteville
Saturday at Ashford (IA)

RIVER FALLS 3-5, 0-2, 0-2
LOST at La Crosse 80-52: Down 23 at halftime, River Falls wasn't even close. Ollie White lead the attack with 13 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Erickson had trip 5's with 5 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists while Gresmer and Sewer had 13 points and 10 points, respectively.
LOST to Platteville 66-48: The Falcons were only down 4 at the break, but couldn't pull out the victory. White, again, lead the way with 18 points, 3 rebounds and 3 steals while Erickson chipped in with 8 and 7.

Wednesday vs. Stout

OSHKOSH 1-5, 0-2, 0-2
LOST at Platteville 80-66: Jade Royston lead the way with 25 points and 3 rebounds in the losing effort. Dylan Wurtz was the only other Titan in double figures with 10 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.
LOST at Superior 77-71: The Titans dropped a close one in Canada. Alex Olson had a very nice night with 18 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals. Royston added 14 and 4, while Wurtz and Schebel each had 12.

Wednesday at La Crosse

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm not sure how many moving screens were called against the big guy from Whitewater, but it was not enough.  Wow.  I guess it doesn't matter ultimately, but they're calling this game like the NBA.

[John Gleich]

I'm not sure how many moving screens were called against the big guy from Whitewater, but it was not enough.  Wow.  I guess it doesn't matter ultimately, but they're calling this game like the NBA.

Personally, I think that almost everybody who caught the ball travelled... Catch, one step, two steps... my middle school kids don't get away with that, but EVERYONE does it on the college level, so it's ok, I guess...?