MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Greek Tragedy]

Ypsi,

I could see a foul being made, the buzzer going and the release of the ball after the buzzer.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ypsi,

I could see a foul being made, the buzzer going and the release of the ball after the buzzer.

Now that might be the solution (other than the possibility that the refs were crazy ).  In your scenario it would be 'in the act', yet the basket would not count.  Without replay, if the refs really did get that scenario correctly they earned their paychecks!

[badgerwarhawk]

Superior: 57
WARHAWKS: 88


In the first eleven and half minutes of the game there were four ties and six lead changes.  Superior's largest lead was five points at the eleven minute mark.  Steve Egan's layup gave the WARHAWKS a 21-19 lead and it grew to a high of twelve, 37-29, with a little over a minute remaining before finishing at ten, 37-27, when the half ended.  The WARHAWKS shot 57% from the floor while holding the YellowJackets to 31% and outscored the YellowJackets 22-10 in the paint.  Quardell Young led the way with 12 points.  KJ Evans added 10 points and Steve Egan pulled down 6 rebounds.  The YellowJackets would get no closer in the second half.  The WARHAWKS lead reached the twenties at about the half way mark and was at it's highest point when the game ended.  The WARHAWKS shot 68% from the floor in the second half and on the game outscored the YellowJackets 50-18 in the paint, 20-6 off of turnovers and 32-18 off the bench. 

Quardell Young: 19 points, 2 assists, 3 steals in 27 minutes. 
KJ Evans: 18 points, 6 rebounds
Steve Egan: 8 points, 9 rebounds, 5 blocks and 4 steals in 21 minutes. 

How often does a team shoot a higher percentage from the field (season high 61.8%) than they do from the charity stripe (55.2%)? Though that 55.2% was an improvement over the ridiculous 43.3% we shot in the RF game.   

This was the kind of game we needed in that after averaging 35 minutes per starter at RF no starter played more than 27 minutes last night. 

[frodotwo]

What was the foul situation? Could they have been in the double bonus? Hit the shot then found after?

It was still only single bonus

I've seen players make a bucket and get fouled after the shot. It's rare, but I don't think it's extremely rare. If it was a 1-and-1 with no time on the clock, no players on the lane lines, and he made the first shot, then visually it wouldn't look any different than a 2-shot foul. I suspect it was actually a 1-and-1.

9

Nope - two shot foul

[Hoops_n_Golf]

Now this is from the case book regarding a close, end-of-game scenario, there isn't reason to believe that it wouldn't be similar to the end-of-half scenario:

Shooter A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, but time expires before the
release of the ball; When the official determines that the foul occurred
before the sounding of the game-clock horn, and signals for the
clock to stop and the timer fails to stop the clock, a timing mistake
occurred and the official shall put time back on the clock to when
the foul was called...... 
However, when the official signals for the clock to stop and it is so
near the expiration of time that the timer is unable to stop the clock,
this is not a timer's mistake and time should not be placed back on
the game clock. When the official determines that the foul occurred
before the sounding of the game-clock horn, the basket shall not
count and A1 is awarded two free throws.

Sounds to me like the officials (gasp) got it right. But then again, I could be wrong. I think I may have confused you all more!!! 

[badgerwarhawk]

Now this is from the case book regarding a close, end-of-game scenario, there isn't reason to believe that it wouldn't be similar to the end-of-half scenario:

Shooter A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, but time expires before the
release of the ball; When the official determines that the foul occurred
before the sounding of the game-clock horn, and signals for the
clock to stop and the timer fails to stop the clock, a timing mistake
occurred and the official shall put time back on the clock to when
the foul was called...... 
However, when the official signals for the clock to stop and it is so
near the expiration of time that the timer is unable to stop the clock,
this is not a timer's mistake and time should not be placed back on
the game clock. When the official determines that the foul occurred
before the sounding of the game-clock horn, the basket shall not
count and A1 is awarded two free throws.

Sounds to me like the officials (gasp) got it right. But then again, I could be wrong. I think I may have confused you all more!!! 

Nothing in the rule differentiates between expiration of time at the half or the end so the rule would apply in either situation.  If it was administered differently the rule would specify that.  I have to give them credit for consulting with one another and getting it right.   It isn't a call that one would make very often. 

At my age I'm often confused so, no problem. 

[Just Bill]

I think that's the answer. He's fouled in the act of shooting, but he wasn't able to physically release the ball before the buzzer expired, since there's a little continuation action permitted. So the shot doesn't count, but the foul gives him two free throws.

[frodotwo]

Now this is from the case book regarding a close, end-of-game scenario, there isn't reason to believe that it wouldn't be similar to the end-of-half scenario:

Shooter A1 is fouled in the act of shooting, but time expires before the
release of the ball; When the official determines that the foul occurred
before the sounding of the game-clock horn, and signals for the
clock to stop and the timer fails to stop the clock, a timing mistake
occurred and the official shall put time back on the clock to when
the foul was called...... 
However, when the official signals for the clock to stop and it is so
near the expiration of time that the timer is unable to stop the clock,
this is not a timer's mistake and time should not be placed back on
the game clock. When the official determines that the foul occurred
before the sounding of the game-clock horn, the basket shall not
count and A1 is awarded two free throws.

Sounds to me like the officials (gasp) got it right. But then again, I could be wrong. I think I may have confused you all more!!! 

There was a 1.2 second differential between the shot and game clock, and the clock was at .1 when the free throws were shot. Must Kudos to the refs for getting it right, but an explanation would have been nice at the time.

[Greek Tragedy]

La Crosse (1-3, 6-7) at Superior (1-4, 7-7)

I think the Eagles bounce back from their most recent loss to Eau Claire at home. They've had a week to think about that, so they should be focused. Not surprisingly, the Yellow Jackets got hammered in Whitewater. It doesn't help when you shoot 31%. I think Superior will keep it close, but La Crosse comes back from Canada with a win.

Stevens Point (4-0, 10-3) at Oshkosh (2-2, 8-5)

I don't care what AppletonRocks says, the home win over River Falls was an upset. The Titans have been playing better ball, but they'll have to play lights out vs the Pointers. Point got an impressive win by pounding Platteville at home. Things might be a little tougher in front of 4000 screaming empty seats, but the visitors should get a double-digit win in Oshkosh.

Stout (0-4, 3-10) at Whitewater (4-0, 11-2)

This game could get ugly fast. Whitewater is still the team to beat after topping Superior with ease. They're still the team to beat and could go undefeated in the conference this year. On the other hand, Stout could go winless this year. The Blue Devils nearly pulled out the victory at home vs Eau Claire in midweek, but the wins will come few and far between, if at all. Stout has no one to score outside Ragland, so this could be an easy 20+ point win for the hosts.

River Falls (3-2, 5-9) at Platteville (3-2, 10-4)

In the best game of the night, two contenders are turning out to be pretenders. River Falls was once 3-0 in the conference with Erickson and Christensen running the show. But a narrow loss at home to Whitewater and an upset road loss in Oshkosh has the Falcons asking questions. Platteville has come up empty on their two big tests. Blowout losses at Whitewater and Point have them asking questions too. Both teams are already two games back in the loss column, so a win is vital here. I see the home team getting a much needed win here, but it will be a dogfight.

Eau Claire (2-3, 6-8) with a bye

[fredfalcon]

FINALLY! RF over Pville 79-71, despite 28  by Stocki, 24 by Johnson. P. led  by 5 at half, but played below their first half performance while RF played better second half. Christensen had 23, Erickson 15, Timlin 11. RF had lost 5 straight by a total of 13 pts.

[fredfalcon]

I watched Osh vs. RF and would not call the Titan win an upset. RF, the second worst free throwing team in the league, missed a ton that night. Erickson went 3/9. Oshkosh played well, looked good.

[AppletonRocks]

Point shoots 68% from the field, 64% from outside the arc.  Many were deeeeep.  Point 83, Titans 57. 

[badgerwarhawk]

Stout: 67
WARHAWKS: 97 ...   that's for you GB

Three point baskets from KJ Evans and Cody Odegaard followed by a pair for free throws from Evans and a layup from Quardell Young fueled a 10-0 start by the WARHAWKS.  Stout responded to pull within 10-8 but Odegaard hit another three pointer and the Blue Devils never got any closer the rest of the evening.  Xzavier Moananu's three pointer at the twelve minute mark created a double digit WARHAWKS lead 22-11.  The lead would grow to as many as nineteen before a 10-0 run by the Blue Devils closed the gap to eight, 38-30, with about three and half minutes but the WARHAWKS closed out the half with a 10-2 run of their own making the score 48-32 when it ended.  The WARHAWKS shot 52% from the floor including 9-18 from beyond the arc.  Cody Odegaard hit on 5 of 6 three point attempts and led all scorers with 17 points.  Evans and Young each had 8 points and Young added 8 assists.  Stout would fight back to within eleven points early in the second half but could get no closer.  The WARHAWKS shot 58% in the second half finishing at 55% on the game including 15 of 29 (52%) on three point attempts. 

Cody Odegaard: 26 points (8 of 12 three point attempts)
KJ Evans: 18 points, 8 rebounds
Quardell Young: 12 points, 6 rebounds, 11 assists (career high) and a steal
Xzavier Moananu: 11 points, 3 steals
Steve Egan: 9 points, 6 blocks (Egan has 11 blocks in last two games.)


Jarvis Ragland led the Blue Devils with a double-double 18 points and 10 rebounds.  Hank Kujak added 17 points and John Lathi was good for 12.

[Greek Tragedy]

Stevens Point 83 at Oshkosh 57

The visitors built a 15-point halftime lead and cruised from there. The Pointers shot 68%, including 11-17 from beyond the arc. Four Pointers scored in double-figures with Ritchay scoring a game high 18. Alex Richard had 15 while Ryf and Pelkofer each had 14. Pelkofer also had 7 rebounds and 4 assists. The Titans shot just 43% and 5-17 from 3-point land. Alex Olson lead Oshkosh with 12 while AJ Mueller was thebonly othe Titan in double-figures with 11.

[badgerwarhawk]

That is some pretty impressive shooting in that barn. 

The Kolf Center has horrible backdrops and I think it's probably the most difficult gym to shoot in when you're only doing it once a year on average.