MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[cubs]

At first glance, Stevens Point seems to have the "easiest" grouping (compared to Whitewater and St. Norbert) with zero d3hoops.com Top 25 opponents, BUT anytime you see Illinois Wesleyan, you know it will be anything but an easy game!!!!

[Greek Tragedy]

The 2nd best team in the 2nd best conference this year (UAA #1?) concerns me, but first, Concordia who is on a hot streak going on the road to knock off #2 and #1 seeds. The Oshkosh loss doesn't concern me too much. Sometimes it's just a match up problem. I don't know, I wasn't there.

[Mr. Ypsi]

At first glance, Stevens Point seems to have the "easiest" grouping (compared to Whitewater and St. Norbert) with zero d3hoops.com Top 25 opponents, BUT anytime you see Illinois Wesleyan, you know it will be anything but an easy game!!!!

We met in Holland in 2012, but with Ty Tillema still unable to go I was pretty sure we had it, so that doesn't really count.  IMO we still owe you for the women's game in 2010 - we hosted the FF that year, but forgot to show up to our own party after getting ambushed by UWSP earlier in the tourney!

[Greek Tragedy]

At first glance, Stevens Point seems to have the "easiest" grouping (compared to Whitewater and St. Norbert) with zero d3hoops.com Top 25 opponents, BUT anytime you see Illinois Wesleyan, you know it will be anything but an easy game!!!!

We met in Holland in 2012, but with Ty Tillema still unable to go I was pretty sure we had it, so that doesn't really count.  IMO we still owe you for the women's game in 2010 - we hosted the FF that year, but forgot to show up to our own party after getting ambushed by UWSP earlier in the tourney!

Why don't you stick to the men and avenge your 16-loss here on our way to the Walnut and Bronze in 2010.  Of course you guys have been to two Final Fours since, right? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

At first glance, Stevens Point seems to have the "easiest" grouping (compared to Whitewater and St. Norbert) with zero d3hoops.com Top 25 opponents, BUT anytime you see Illinois Wesleyan, you know it will be anything but an easy game!!!!

We met in Holland in 2012, but with Ty Tillema still unable to go I was pretty sure we had it, so that doesn't really count.  IMO we still owe you for the women's game in 2010 - we hosted the FF that year, but forgot to show up to our own party after getting ambushed by UWSP earlier in the tourney!

Why don't you stick to the men and avenge your 16-loss here on our way to the Walnut and Bronze in 2010.  Of course you guys have been to two Final Fours since, right? 

I had ZERO expectation of beating you in 2010; I DID expect the women to make it back to their own floor that year - that is the difference!   (Of course, in Holland in 2012, though I expected the win over the Tillema-less Pointers, I had a low expectation of beating #1-ranked Hope on their own floor!)

[Just Bill]

Concordia at River Falls 90-74
Concordia at  Edgewood 78-69
Concordia vs Edgewood 81-79

As #3 seed won at #2 Benedictine and at #1 Aurora. 6-game win streak.

Stevens Point vs Edgewood 69-60
Stevens Point at River Falls 58-51
Stevens Point vs River Falls 63-40

Lost to Oshkosh in semis but jad won 8 previous games.

You listed the score, but didn't indicate that CUW lost all three of those games, while Point won all three.

[Greek Tragedy]

Details. Details!   

[iwumichigander]

The 2nd best team in the 2nd best conference this year (UAA #1?) concerns me, but first, Concordia who is on a hot streak going on the road to knock off #2 and #1 seeds. The Oshkosh loss doesn't concern me too much. Sometimes it's just a match up problem. I don't know, I wasn't there.

Bears have dropped a couple of puzzlers but generally playing good ball.  Maybe a tough matchup for UWSP?  Have experience and talent.  Keep yours eyes on 6'7 215 senior Palucki as he is a handful. Not a terribly deep team but four of starting five can hit the trey

[Greek Tragedy]

The 2nd best team in the 2nd best conference this year (UAA #1?) concerns me, but first, Concordia who is on a hot streak going on the road to knock off #2 and #1 seeds. The Oshkosh loss doesn't concern me too much. Sometimes it's just a match up problem. I don't know, I wasn't there.

Bears have dropped a couple of puzzlers but generally playing good ball.  Maybe a tough matchup for UWSP?  Have experience and talent.  Keep yours eyes on 6'7 215 senior Palucki as he is a handful. Not a terribly deep team but four of starting five can hit the trey

I was talking about IWU, not Washington U. The Bears could play Augustana in Round 2.   

[iwumichigander]

The 2nd best team in the 2nd best conference this year (UAA #1?) concerns me, but first, Concordia who is on a hot streak going on the road to knock off #2 and #1 seeds. The Oshkosh loss doesn't concern me too much. Sometimes it's just a match up problem. I don't know, I wasn't there.

Bears have dropped a couple of puzzlers but generally playing good ball.  Maybe a tough matchup for UWSP?  Have experience and talent.  Keep yours eyes on 6'7 215 senior Palucki as he is a handful. Not a terribly deep team but four of starting five can hit the trey

I was talking about IWU, not Washington U. The Bears could play Augustana in Round 2.   

Oh!  You are not looking that far ahead😃😄.
Seriously, I missed read your post.  IWU has to get past Dubuque first.  And, I know what you are saying about Concordia as team get hot, build confidence and who knows? 

[badgerwarhawk]

WHITEWATER and Defiance have three common opponents, Kalamazoo, Alma and Bluffton.

WARHAWKS: 89  Kalamazoo: 53
Defiance: 60  Kalamazoo: 59

WARHAWKS: 84  Alma: 71
Definace: 85  Alma: 58

WARHAWKS: 67  Bluffton: 46
Defiance: 78  Bluffton: 55
Defiance: 73  Bluffton: 51
Bluffton: 70  Defiance: 68

I found one other meeting between the two programs.  3/5/2010  WARHAWKS: 75  Defiance: 71


Personally I hope they have a team of Liberatans and not Sensoths or Volges.  And if they have any Biomen I'm not even showing up.   

[Hoops_n_Golf]

WHITEWATER and Defiance have three common opponents, Kalamazoo, Alma and Bluffton.

WARHAWKS: 89  Kalamazoo: 53
Defiance: 60  Kalamazoo: 59

WARHAWKS: 84  Alma: 71
Definace: 85  Alma: 58

WARHAWKS: 67  Bluffton: 46
Defiance: 78  Bluffton: 55
Defiance: 73  Bluffton: 51
Bluffton: 70  Defiance: 68

I found one other meeting between the two programs.  3/5/2010  WARHAWKS: 75  Defiance: 71


Personally I hope they have a team of Liberatans and not Sensoths or Volges.  And if they have any Biomen I'm not even showing up.   

I don't have a lot of time (despite being a freeloader State employee) so I haven't followed up with your research, guys. Wondering how legitimate it is that WW repeats, Point gets it done, or (best of all) a WIAC final? Just shoot it to me straight, guys! Don't make me (gasp) read!

[stoutguy]

Whitewater handled the Titans today.  Glad to see the Phi Betta Kappa guys from Whitewater could get out of the library to shout rude things at the Oshkosh fans.  Interesting that with a 17 point lead Pat Miller works the refs to get a Technical foul, one of three the Warhawks had today.  Might want to have a sportsmanship refresher if they host in NCAA tournament there. 

Congrates to WW.  Your program just continues to amaze me.  I will be hoping for another national championship.   But I have to wonder after watching Pat from close range for all these years, why people are so afraid to call it like it is and say that his behavior on the sidelines is way over the top.  After the game, during interviews, during the week, and in any situation that I have spoken with him he has been professional, friendly, and classy.  On the sideline during the game is a whole different story.  The number of stories are endless.  Now I expect to be ripped for suggesting anything remotely negative about WW, but go for it.  I am old and have thick skin.  Besides, I don't live for karma points.

HOW DARE YOU!!!! You're a former coach by your own admission. THere are plenty of detractors. How dare you criticize a coach. Un-believable!

Touche'. Big time touche'.  Although I don't know the facts at all regarding the Stout coach and your earlier comments, your strong comments about Stout's coach were far more harsh than we are used to on this board. As such, I didn't really like those comments. But this is one of those message board moments that I like to acknowledge. Your eyes must have gotten pretty big when you saw this post of Stoutguy. Well done.

"Touche'.  Big time touche".  Really, BleedPurple?  I wasn't going to respond and I promise to let this thing go right now, but I need to point out that I am offended that you are putting my reaction to Pat's sideline antics on the same level with Hoops and Golf's attack of Ed Andrist.  When I reacted to Pat's sideline behavior I also used the words, "classy, friendly, and professional" when discussing my opinion of Pat Miller.  As a matter of fact, if you ever talk to Pat why don't you bring this topic up and feel free to mention me in your discussion.  I have the utmost resect for Pat Miller and I think he knows that.  I just don't like his sideline antics and I stand by that.  End of discussion.  Good luck to both SP and WW in the tournament.  Both first class programs that the entire WIAC can be proud of. 

[badgerwarhawk]

WHITEWATER and Defiance have three common opponents, Kalamazoo, Alma and Bluffton.

WARHAWKS: 89  Kalamazoo: 53
Defiance: 60  Kalamazoo: 59

WARHAWKS: 84  Alma: 71
Definace: 85  Alma: 58

WARHAWKS: 67  Bluffton: 46
Defiance: 78  Bluffton: 55
Defiance: 73  Bluffton: 51
Bluffton: 70  Defiance: 68

I found one other meeting between the two programs.  3/5/2010  WARHAWKS: 75  Defiance: 71


Personally I hope they have a team of Liberatans and not Sensoths or Volges.  And if they have any Biomen I'm not even showing up.   

I don't have a lot of time (despite being a freeloader State employee) so I haven't followed up with your research, guys. Wondering how legitimate it is that WW repeats, Point gets it done, or (best of all) a WIAC final? Just shoot it to me straight, guys! Don't make me (gasp) read!

You aren't a terrorist are you? 

I'd say the odds of us repeating are slim given that it's only happened four times (Washington U 2008 & 2009; Stevens Point 2004 & 2005; Platteville 1998 & 1999 and North Park 1979 & 1980).  Though perhaps the fact that two of the four teams to do it are from the WIAC improves it slightly.  I was unable to find an instance where two teams from the same league played for the championship but I'm not completely familiar with all of the conferences so I might have missed one.  Regardless I'd say the odds of that happening are even worse. 

[John Gleich]

BW, in 03-04, Amherst and Williams (NESCAC) met in the semi-finals.
In 09-10, Guilford and Randolph Macon (ODAC) both lost in the semi-finals (to Point/Williams) so they could have met.
In 10-11, Williams and Middlebury (NESCAC) both lost in the semi-finals (to St Thomas/Wooster) so they could have met.
And last year, Williams and Amherst (NESCAC) met in the semi-finals.

So, in the last decade, no two conference teams have met in the finals, but it could have happened on two different occasions.  I didn't look any further back than that, but prior to the expansion of the field, multiple teams from the same conferences was more rare and it was exceedingly rare to get them on opposite sides of the bracket.

There have been a few other years when WIAC teams were opposite of each other but both didn't even make it to the Sweet 16. I'll have to research those.