MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[tomt4525]

If he signed an NLI and wants to back out he's at the mercy of St. Leo to grant him a release. If he goes elsewhere in D-I or D-II without a release he's ineligible for two years. He could go to a D-III without penalty.

I still don't know why any recruit signs that thing. It's not necessary to receive a scholarship and it forfeits dozens of rights. There's virtually no benefit to the student-athlete from signing it, other than getting your picture in the paper.

I partially agree with that statement...but it also binds the school to the player if they end up getting hurt.  In a case like this where the coach leaves, I haven't seen many instances that the school won't let the player out of their letter of intent.  There might be stipulations where they can't go to a school in their conference and that sort of thing, but if they wanted out, 99% of the time they can get out.

No protection for getting hurt in an NLI. They can drop you just as fast as they can sign the paperwork. An NLI commits you to them, not them to you.

You can get dropped because of injury, but again...how often do you see that??  If you sign a NLI with a school, they will honor the scholarship...almost always.  The reason for these letter of intents is so coaches know what they have to work with.  A kid can say they r coming, not sign paperwork, and leave them at the alter.  By signing, you're saving your spot.  Coaches will just move onto the next guy if they have to.

[bulk19]

Former Blugold Eric Konkol gets head coaching job at Louisiana Tech, home of the Bulldogs...

http://www.leadertelegram.com/News/Daily-Updates/2015/05/18/Former-Blugold-Konkol-named-Louisiana-Tech-head-coach.html

[BoBo]

Coach Steve Showalter leaving Germantown HS to take a job as an assistant to Lance Randall at D2 Lindenwood. Look for a probably roster heavy on a Wisconsin kids starting with his younger son.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/preps/showalter-resigns-as-coach-at-germantown-b99503013z1-304206221.html

[Greek Tragedy]

http://m.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/stevens-point-basketball-star-plans-to-attend-marquette-b99501878z1-304071581.html

Stevens Point high school stud Sam Hauser headed to Marquette.  If things don't pan out,  he can always return to Point in time for their 2020 Championship run! LOL :-)   

[Greek Tragedy]

Titan Q posted all the publicized recruits for the CCIW on their page. I noticed just one player from Wisconsin listed. That begged the question if CCIW schools regularly recruit north of the border. In turn, I wondered how many WIAC schools have Illinois players on their rosters.

Platteville had 6 from Illinois and 9 from Wisconsin.  Surprisingly to me, none from Iowa.

Whitewater had 4 from Illinois and 12 from Wisconsin. 1 from Missouri.

Oshkosh has 3 and 14.

Stevens Point and River Falls each had one from Illinois.  In addition,  Point had 12 from Wisconsin.  River Falls added just 3 from Wisconsin and 13 from Minnesota (and one from Colorado)

Not surprisingly, Stout, Eau Claire and Superior didn't have anyone from Illinois,  along with La Crosse.  Instead, they had some plauers from Minnesota.  Eau Claire had 13, Stout had 4, Superior had 3 and La Crosse with 3 from Minnesota.

Superior had the United Nations on their team. In addition to players from Michigan amd Montana,  players came from Spain, Sweden, Denmark,  Brazil, Switzerland and Australia.

[badgerwarhawk]

Some quick numbers of out of state athletes at UW-WHITEWATER:

Men's basketball: 5 of 17 (29%)
Football: 30 of 100 (30%)
Baseball: 12 of 45 (27%)

So in what I would define as the three major sports we still rely on a significant percentage of instate athletes.

I didn't do a lot of research but I suspect the sport most reliant of out of state talent at our school is gymnastics.  Their roster is 79% out of state (15/19).  Gymnastics is generally a dying sport in Wisconsin as fewer and fewer schools field teams each year and the level of talent pales in comparison to many other states forcing the staff to recruit out of state. 

Another sport reliant on out of state talent is women's bowling where the roster is 43% (9/21).  Again another sport with a relatively limited number of schools participating.   

[AndOne]

Titan Q posted all the publicized recruits for the CCIW on their page. I noticed just one player from Wisconsin listed. That begged the question if CCIW schools regularly recruit north of the border. In turn, I wondered how many WIAC schools have Illinois players on their rosters.

Platteville had 6 from Illinois and 9 from Wisconsin.  Surprisingly to me, none from Iowa.

Whitewater had 4 from Illinois and 12 from Wisconsin. 1 from Missouri.

Oshkosh has 3 and 14.

Stevens Point and River Falls each had one from Illinois.  In addition,  Point had 12 from Wisconsin.  River Falls added just 3 from Wisconsin and 13 from Minnesota (and one from Colorado)

Not surprisingly, Stout, Eau Claire and Superior didn't have anyone from Illinois,  along with La Crosse.  Instead, they had some plauers from Minnesota.  Eau Claire had 13, Stout had 4, Superior had 3 and La Crosse with 3 from Minnesota.

Superior had the United Nations on their team. In addition to players from Michigan amd Montana,  players came from Spain, Sweden, Denmark,  Brazil, Switzerland and Australia.

Does Wisconsin not still have a reciprocity agreement with Minnesota? My nephew from Madison. WI went to U of MN for Minnesota resident tuition. If the agreement is still in place its not surprising there are a lot of MN residents on the various WIAC rosters.

[Greek Tragedy]

https://badgerherald.com/news/2015/02/16/minnesota-wisconsin-reciprocity-hangs-in-the-balance-with-proposed-budget/

Still in effect, though Gov. Walker is trying to screw that up.

At Stout,  Superior amd River Falls,  Minnesota students make up 28%, 38% and 48% of total student body. Wow!

[Gregory Sager]

https://badgerherald.com/news/2015/02/16/minnesota-wisconsin-reciprocity-hangs-in-the-balance-with-proposed-budget/

Still in effect, though Gov. Walker is trying to screw that up.

At Stout,  Superior amd River Falls,  Minnesota students make up 28%, 38% and 48% of total student body. Wow!

Not surprising at all, actually, when you consider both the reciprocity agreement and simple demographics. UW-Stout, UW-Superior, and UWRF are not located in large cities, nor are their respective parts of Wisconsin heavily populated. However, UW-Stout and UWRF are close to a very large metropolitan area on the other side of the border, Minneapolis/St. Paul, while UW-Soup is right across the bay from Duluth (population 80,000).

[John Gleich]

Titan Q posted all the publicized recruits for the CCIW on their page. I noticed just one player from Wisconsin listed. That begged the question if CCIW schools regularly recruit north of the border. In turn, I wondered how many WIAC schools have Illinois players on their rosters.

Platteville had 6 from Illinois and 9 from Wisconsin.  Surprisingly to me, none from Iowa.

Whitewater had 4 from Illinois and 12 from Wisconsin. 1 from Missouri.

Oshkosh has 3 and 14.

Stevens Point and River Falls each had one from Illinois.  In addition,  Point had 12 from Wisconsin.  River Falls added just 3 from Wisconsin and 13 from Minnesota (and one from Colorado)

Not surprisingly, Stout, Eau Claire and Superior didn't have anyone from Illinois,  along with La Crosse.  Instead, they had some plauers from Minnesota.  Eau Claire had 13, Stout had 4, Superior had 3 and La Crosse with 3 from Minnesota.

Superior had the United Nations on their team. In addition to players from Michigan amd Montana,  players came from Spain, Sweden, Denmark,  Brazil, Switzerland and Australia.

Superior has, historically, had a player or two from Illinois. Jeff Kaminsky was from Wheaton, so he had IL ties (Vince Thomas went to Wheaton North, so that was the link that got him to Superior). Sup also has reciprocity with every state... so it's very inexpensive to go there even if you aren't from Wisconsin.

A lot of it has to do with where the coach's ties are. Coach Semling is a Wisconsin guy. He grew up in Merrill, went to Eau Claire. He coached in Park Falls, Wisconsin Rapids, Wausaw West, UWSP, UWGB, with one season at New Mexico.

There's more of an Illinois connection with Kent Dernbach, who came to UWSP from Northern Illinois. But he went to Carthage, and is from Almond, WI.

Look at the rest of the staff. Jacob Gollon is a Point kid. Brant Bailey is from Rapids. They've got relationships with coaches throughout Wisconsin who, by and large, are from Wisconsin too. It's the culture of the state. Lots of people stay close to home. The ones that don't get out of dodge and by-and-large don't come back too often.

[hoops2]

Not to correct you Mr Gleich but Brant Bailey is from Wis Dells and not Rapids.  Bryan Beamish was from Rapids.  Still waiting to hear where Jacob Gollon ends up as he's been looking.  Not much of a chance he'll stay in Point as funding is extremely tight at most UW schools for coaches and their staffs.   

[palum]

Titan Q posted all the publicized recruits for the CCIW on their page. I noticed just one player from Wisconsin listed. That begged the question if CCIW schools regularly recruit north of the border. In turn, I wondered how many WIAC schools have Illinois players on their rosters.

Platteville had 6 from Illinois and 9 from Wisconsin. Surprisingly to me, none from Iowa.

Whitewater had 4 from Illinois and 12 from Wisconsin. 1 from Missouri.

Oshkosh has 3 and 14.

Stevens Point and River Falls each had one from Illinois.  In addition,  Point had 12 from Wisconsin.  River Falls added just 3 from Wisconsin and 13 from Minnesota (and one from Colorado)

Not surprisingly, Stout, Eau Claire and Superior didn't have anyone from Illinois,  along with La Crosse.  Instead, they had some plauers from Minnesota.  Eau Claire had 13, Stout had 4, Superior had 3 and La Crosse with 3 from Minnesota.

Superior had the United Nations on their team. In addition to players from Michigan amd Montana,  players came from Spain, Sweden, Denmark,  Brazil, Switzerland and Australia.

If you were going by last years UWP roster Peyton River was from Maquoketa, Iowa and Jake Manning was from Cedar. Rapids.  UWP has the Tri-State Initiative which allows them to offer reduced out of state tuition to Illinois and Iowa students who major in certain areas Engineering and Agriculture for example.  There also have been some comments about reciprocity with Minnesota.  Unless the program has changed in the past few years the student pays the tuition rate of their home state so a Wisconsin student at the U of MN will pay what he/she would pay if they attended Madison.  In the past MN tuition was higher than WI tuition so a student from WI was paying less in tuition than a student from MN which used to drive Minnesotans wild.

[Greek Tragedy]

Any thoughts on Superior's impending move to the UMAC? Curious if and how many games the Yellowjackets will keep with the likes of Eau Claire, River Falls and Stout. They are all around 2 1/2 hours away. They'll be 9 teams in the UMAC now (unless someone is leaving or someone else is joining), so they'll still have 16 conference games. Maybe they'll try to schedule all D3 games. They'll be in the West now so with the possibility of a better record in a weaker conference,  could we see Superior in the Regional Rankings in the future? Gulp!

[Gregory Sager]

Since travel is one of the stated reasons for UW-Superior's move, I would think that Yellowjackets head coaches in various sports would naturally try to schedule UWEC, UWRF, and UW-Stout for non-conference play. It only makes sense, especially since there aren't any non-UMAC D3 schools that are closer.

[John Gleich]

Not to correct you Mr Gleich but Brant Bailey is from Wis Dells and not Rapids.  Bryan Beamish was from Rapids.  Still waiting to hear where Jacob Gollon ends up as he's been looking.  Not much of a chance he'll stay in Point as funding is extremely tight at most UW schools for coaches and their staffs.

Correct away, especially when I'm wrong!