MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[palum]

So.....has Dernbach accepted the UWSP Head Coaching job yet?

I understand the reasons posted here as to why Dernbach applied at SP. But is there any reason why he would want to leave LaX. It's not a move up more of a move over. Salary range is similar, facilities are similar.  He has built a good program at LaX. Stevens Point is closer to his hometown of Almond, Wisconsin but La Crosse is not on the other side of the earth. What does SP offer that he is not getting at LaX?

[badgerwarhawk]

Former Oconomowoc G and Western Illinois walkon, Jake Fisher, will transfer to Whitewater to play basketball.

His brother, Drew, is already playing on the team. 

[WashingtonWiz99]

So.....has Dernbach accepted the UWSP Head Coaching job yet?

I understand the reasons posted here as to why Dernbach applied at SP. But is there any reason why he would want to leave LaX. It's not a move up more of a move over. Salary range is similar, facilities are similar.  He has built a good program at LaX. Stevens Point is closer to his hometown of Almond, Wisconsin but La Crosse is not on the other side of the earth. What does SP offer that he is not getting at LaX?

You must be new to Division III and the WIAC.

[WUPHF]

Salary range is similar, facilities are similar. 

In regards to salary, I said something similar or thought to say something similar, but the thing about higher education is that salaries rarely keep up with the market.  It is worse in public higher education.

It is possible that the new coach will be hired a significantly higher salary ($10-15K higher would not surprise me at all), but hard to say.

[Greek Tragedy]

So.....has Dernbach accepted the UWSP Head Coaching job yet?

I understand the reasons posted here as to why Dernbach applied at SP. But is there any reason why he would want to leave LaX. It's not a move up more of a move over. Salary range is similar, facilities are similar.  He has built a good program at LaX. Stevens Point is closer to his hometown of Almond, Wisconsin but La Crosse is not on the other side of the earth. What does SP offer that he is not getting at LaX?

You must be new to Division III and the WIAC.

I don't even know what that means or what you're implying.

Anyway, my thoughts are that I was a little surprised Dernbach's name came up. I actually thought he may have felt a little scorned not given the opportunity for the head coaching job when Semling got suspended. Also, as palum pointed out, he's building his own thing in La Crosse and that's something to be proud of, for sure. On the other hand, nationally, I think it's a step up from La Crosse. Point, like Platteville, has a lot of tradition, national titles etc. Point, Platteville, Whitewater are national brands while La Crosse isn't there yet...at least in men's basketball. Could Dernbach stay at La Crosse and help them become a national brand? Absolutely. But maybe home is where the heart is. If those aren't the reasons, then I must be new to Division III and the WIAC. And, I have no idea about salaries.

[WashingtonWiz99]

So.....has Dernbach accepted the UWSP Head Coaching job yet?

I understand the reasons posted here as to why Dernbach applied at SP. But is there any reason why he would want to leave LaX. It's not a move up more of a move over. Salary range is similar, facilities are similar.  He has built a good program at LaX. Stevens Point is closer to his hometown of Almond, Wisconsin but La Crosse is not on the other side of the earth. What does SP offer that he is not getting at LaX?

You must be new to Division III and the WIAC.

I don't even know what that means or what you're implying.

Anyway, my thoughts are that I was a little surprised Dernbach's name came up. I actually thought he may have felt a little scorned not given the opportunity for the head coaching job when Semling got suspended. Also, as palum pointed out, he's building his own thing in La Crosse and that's something to be proud of, for sure. On the other hand, nationally, I think it's a step up from La Crosse. Point, like Platteville, has a lot of tradition, national titles etc. Point, Platteville, Whitewater are national brands while La Crosse isn't there yet...at least in men's basketball. Could Dernbach stay at La Crosse and help them become a national brand? Absolutely. But maybe home is where the heart is. If those aren't the reasons, then I must be new to Division III and the WIAC. And, I have no idea about salaries.

Correct.

Take salary out of the mix because we don't know what that is.

UWL has a better academic prowess and campus.

From a basketball standpoint this isn't even close. Tradition. Support. Staffing. Facilities. Not even close. UWSP.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

You all would know better than I, but does Point have a stronger donor base? Maybe a significantly stronger one? The ability to increase the budget with outside funding, beyond just running camps, would be a huge program advantage that might be worth leaving for.

[The Dean]

You all would know better than I, but does Point have a stronger donor base? Maybe a significantly stronger one? The ability to increase the budget with outside funding, beyond just running camps, would be a huge program advantage that might be worth leaving for.

Point has had a very active booster group called the "Backcourt Club" that engages in a lot of fundraising activites to support the program.  Historically, basketball camps have done well here. Unfortunately, nowadays the University keeps taking a good sized chunk of that money. I wonder if that's the case at other universities.  (Remember the legendary amounts of money Kenny Anderson made at UWEC with his camps many years ago?)  The Stevens Point area community has certainly supported the program over the years.  Despite being at the bottom of the league standings the past two years UWSP remained at the top of the league in average attendance.   

[tomt4525]

6'4" St Mary's Springs G, Lucas Rameker, will play collegiate basketball at Platteville.

[tomt4525]

Kenosha Indian Trail 6'4" G, Jackson Wilhelmson, will play collegiate basketball at Stout.

[PauldingLightUP]

So.....has Dernbach accepted the UWSP Head Coaching job yet?

I understand the reasons posted here as to why Dernbach applied at SP. But is there any reason why he would want to leave LaX. It's not a move up more of a move over. Salary range is similar, facilities are similar.  He has built a good program at LaX. Stevens Point is closer to his hometown of Almond, Wisconsin but La Crosse is not on the other side of the earth. What does SP offer that he is not getting at LaX?

You must be new to Division III and the WIAC.

I don't even know what that means or what you're implying.

Anyway, my thoughts are that I was a little surprised Dernbach's name came up. I actually thought he may have felt a little scorned not given the opportunity for the head coaching job when Semling got suspended. Also, as palum pointed out, he's building his own thing in La Crosse and that's something to be proud of, for sure. On the other hand, nationally, I think it's a step up from La Crosse. Point, like Platteville, has a lot of tradition, national titles etc. Point, Platteville, Whitewater are national brands while La Crosse isn't there yet...at least in men's basketball. Could Dernbach stay at La Crosse and help them become a national brand? Absolutely. But maybe home is where the heart is. If those aren't the reasons, then I must be new to Division III and the WIAC. And, I have no idea about salaries.

Correct.

Take salary out of the mix because we don't know what that is.

UWL has a better academic prowess and campus.

From a basketball standpoint this isn't even close. Tradition. Support. Staffing. Facilities. Not even close. UWSP.

I 100% understand tradition and community and alumni support being in UWSP's favor. But staffing and facilities too? Pretty sure everyone in WIAC basketball gets one 1.0 FTE assistant and one .5/.75 FTE assistant. UWL has the best AT's and after a few retirements, now the best SID. Duckworth is not some god, Blum is fine. Mitchell Hall isn't bad. Nice barn. Not like Quandt is some holy grail. New Fieldhouse is open at UWL and the old one still there. 

[WashingtonWiz99]

It's not even close from a basketball standpoint. Not even close. Quandt is 1,000 times better than Mitchell Hall. Staffing is 100 times better.

Ken Koelbl was working in admissions at UWL.

WIAC staffing is not apples to apples. Not by any means.

[tomt4525]

UWEC F, Brock Voigt, has committed to Winona St.  Will be fun to see how he does in the NSIC.

[The Dean]

UWEC F, Brock Voigt, has committed to Winona St.  Will be fun to see how he does in the NSIC.

He was one of the 2 or 3 best players I watched play in the WIAC last year.  Along with Anderson (when healthy) and of course, Borchert. 

[badgerwarhawk]

It's not even close from a basketball standpoint. Not even close. Quandt is 1,000 times better than Mitchell Hall. Staffing is 100 times better.

I can't speak to staffing but I've attended games in Quandt and Mitchell Hall and it's a tad grandiose to suggest Quandt is "1,000" times better.  But I'd be interested in knowing exactly what it is that makes it that because to a visitor it doesn't seem like anything that special.