MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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palum

Quote from: palum on February 12, 2025, 10:37:07 PM
Quote from: '95 Blugold on February 12, 2025, 09:33:10 PMEau Claire fall 72-50 at home against #3 Platteville. Blugolds were within 2 at 24-26 a little under 4 minutes left in the first half, but things fell apart from there. Turnovers and some missed easy shots by Eau Claire left them in a 10 point deficit at half. Shortly into the 2nd half the Pioneers extended it to 20 and cruised from there on out.
Platteville was led by Logan Pearson with 13 points and Bristol Lewis came off the bench and added 13 points. Huschka leads EC with 19 points every one of  his points was hard earned. Between Joey Furheman and Miles Hettinger Platteville always had a fresh body on him.

ChickenHoops

I got up early to water the chickens and watch the WIAC Network replay of the Point at Oshkosh MBB game after attending a disappointing blowout loss by the Lady Dawgs to Oshkosh in Berg last night.

After several replays, the following thoughts:

1) Oshkosh had an 11 point lead running away with a little over 3 minutes to go. Coach Dernbach woke up and Point pressed them on several inbounds. Oshkosh didn't seem to have that down.
2) Josiah Butler earned his NIL money tonight with a flurry of three pointers in the comeback, mostly contested.
3) The WIAC should review the officials brutal handling of the last 2.2 seconds. Oshkosh had a side court inbound down by 1. Abdul stepped over the sideline to deflect the inbound pass by Carter Thomas. Looked obvious. The refs went to replay for what felt like five minutes. That's a technical foul and the ball for Oshkosh, who never misses FTs. Plus clock ran down to 1.3 seconds on the play, no clock if they call the T. Subsequent inbound pass to the basket looked like a Point push foul as well. 
4) Point needs to run more offense for Seth Miron.
5) Point is not a tourney team, Oshkosh loss of its All American unfortunate, probably should be. 

 

Greek Tragedy

#23897
Furious comeback by Point. I was able to watch the last 5 minutes before work this morning.

Butler was definitely on a heater. Pretty impressive. SP down 10, 71-61 with 2:22 left. They answer right away with an Abdul-Wahid dunk, then a full court press causes a TO and another bucket by AW. OSH calls a timeout and then after the timeout, they can't get the ball in, so I think he tried to call another timeout (or 5-sec violation). Butler hits a 3, another TO by OSH and then another 3 by Butler ties it.

The last possession was interesting. I had the volume off, so not sure what happened. I'll take chicken's word, but I don't think the SP player pushed the OSH player on the lob pass right by the basket.

Amazing how bad this team can look with their multiple cold spells and then how good they can look at times. So frustrating.

Butler with 28. Baumgartner with 17. 

Definitely didn't think they'd pull it out. I'll take it. Another tough game at home vs Eau Claire this weekend...

BTW, 13-13 from the line!
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Greek Tragedy

#23898
This morning's NPI rankings from d3datacast has Point moving up.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/

3. Platteville 71.51 Pool A
6. La Crosse 66.71 C2
37. Stevens Point 61.28 C18

60. Eau Claire 58.40 C33
69. Oshkosh 57.83 C42

132. Whitewater 54.02 C95
237. River Falls 49.48 C193
248. Stout 49.16 C204

Saturday's games:

Stout at Platteville
La Crosse at Oshkosh
Eau Claire at Stevens Point
Whitewater at River Falls




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NPI rankings

3. Platteville 71.17 Pool A
5. La Crosse 66.56 C2
42. Stevens Point 60.38 C22
56. Eau Claire 58.67 C30
64. Oshkosh 58.32 C37

To give you an idea, probably don't want to be any worse than Pool C 15 with bid thieves

26    Gettysburg    CC    C11
27    Trine    MIAA    C12
28    Cal Lutheran    SCIAC    C13   
29    Chicago    UAA    C14
30    Drew    LAND    2A
31    Anderson    HCAC    A   
32    Chatham    PAC    A
33    Pitt-Bradford    AMCC    A
34    TCNJ    NJAC    C15
35    Gustavus Adolphus    MIAC    C16
36    Montclair State    NJAC C17
37    Roanoke    ODAC    C18
38    Virginia Wesleyan    ODAC C19

39    John Carroll    OAC    A   
40    Franklin and Marshall    CC C20
41    Trinity (Texas)    SCAC    C21
   
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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 13, 2025, 07:30:35 AMFurious comeback by Point. I was able to watch the last 5 minutes before work this morning.

Butler was definitely on a heater. Pretty impressive. SP down 10, 71-61 with 2:22 left. They answer right away with an Abdul-Wahid dunk, then a full court press causes a TO and another bucket by AW. OSH calls a timeout and then after the timeout,[ they can't get the ball in, so I think he tried to call another timeout (or 5-sec violation). Butler hits a 3, another TO by OSH and then another 3 by Butler ties it.



A team can't call consecutive timeouts by rule.  There has to be a live ball between them. The official would have ignored the request.
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Greek Tragedy

I thought that was the rule. Would that have been a technical foul then? The announcers made it sound like they gave them a 5-second violation.
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ChickenHoops

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 13, 2025, 06:44:13 PMI thought that was the rule. Would that have been a technical foul then? The announcers made it sound like they gave them a 5-second violation.

They did give them 5 seconds.

The technical should have been on Point with 2.2 seconds left as Abdul crossed into the sideline while defending the Oshkosh inbound. Thomas and Coach Lewis saw it, amazingly the referee handing Thomas the ball did not. Watch the video. Really a big miss.

Now let's move on as the only way these teams are in is if they are a bid thief for winning the WIAC tournament.

Greek Tragedy

Point still has a slim chance. They'll get bonus points if they beat Eau Claire this weekend. One game at a time.
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hoops2

I watched the end of the Point/Oshkosh game several times and hit the pause button on the inbound play being talked about.  I believe Abdul-Wahid knocked the ball out of bounds before his foot comes close to the sideline.  Play was good.  I also don't think there was a foul on the final play. Two guys going after the ball.  In the end, Oshy let one get away.  With Metcalf back next year they will be a load. 

Greek Tragedy

I presume you're implying he's out for the remainder of this season? He played 13 games, too many to get a medical year.
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I think the fat lady is warming up for the Pointers Pool C bid. They can't get the win at home versus Eau Claire. So now they will have to win at Stout and at La Crosse and probably have to beat La Crosse or Platteville just to get to the final of the WIAC tournament to have any chance at a Pool C bid. I don't see that happening after tonight's performance.

To be fair to the Pointers, I thought the refs stunk. Every time Eau Claire got the ball, a foul would be called on the Pointers, yet Point never got a call when they had the ball. It also didn't help that Eau Claire had at least a dozen layups for easy points. The defense was horrible.

Just a disappointing loss with basically everything on the table and at stake.
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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 13, 2025, 06:44:13 PMI thought that was the rule. Would that have been a technical foul then? The announcers made it sound like they gave them a 5-second violation.


My understanding of the college rule is no unless the request is made during an overtime.  In overtime it would be a team technical.  Otherwise the official is not supposed to grant it.  When a team has reached its maximum number of timeouts the scorer tells the official who then tells the coach of the team so everyone is aware of the situation. 
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'95 Blugold

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 15, 2025, 08:39:32 PMI think the fat lady is warming up for the Pointers Pool C bid. They can't get the win at home versus Eau Claire. So now they will have to win at Stout and at La Crosse and probably have to beat La Crosse or Platteville just to get to the final of the WIAC tournament to have any chance at a Pool C bid. I don't see that happening after tonight's performance.

To be fair to the Pointers, I thought the refs stunk. Every time Eau Claire got the ball, a foul would be called on the Pointers, yet Point never got a call when they had the ball. It also didn't help that Eau Claire had at least a dozen layups for easy points. The defense was horrible.

Just a disappointing loss with basically everything on the table and at stake.

Refs definitely gave the Blugolds the big advantage in the foul category. I think one possession early in the 2nd half had 3 fouls called on Stevens Point. Blugolds go 17-22 from the line while the Pointers only 6-8. I'd have to look, but it seems like the Blugolds have been going to the line quite a bit more than their opponents this season. Both teams played pretty sloppy at times which resulted in 14 turnovers a piece. The one under a minute that gave Renta the go ahead lay up for Eau Claire was tough. Blugolds have Oshkosh and Whitewater at home to finish off the regular season.

tomt4525

Refs certainly didn't help things for the Pointers tonight, that's for sure.  With that said, I've never seen worse point guard play for a UWSP team than I saw tonight.  Passing was terrible, capped off by one of the worst passes I've ever seen by Butler to give Renta a fast break layup with under a minute to go in a tie game.

The Point coaching staff better start looking at the transfer market because at the bare minimum, they need a transfer PG to come in and start.  If Manz/Grganto aren't serviceable backup bigs next season, they will need a transfer big that can take some minutes from Krohn unlike Hoffman this season.

palum

Platteville takes care of Stout 76-53. Logan Pearson leads Platteville with 16 points just falling short of 2,000 career points. Miles Hettinger came off the bench and scored 14 points had a number of steals on defense.