MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Pat Coleman, February 24, 2005, 09:17:07 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

PauldingLightUP

At the half, not much doing for the road teams. Both shooting 37%.

Home teams really dominating. Especially Stevens Point, shooting 70%.

Oshkosh hanging around down 7 in a much lower scoring game. Whitewater and Eau Claire both scored 32, but with much different results.

Oshkosh shooting not there in the new Sonnentag through 1.5 games.

Whitewater can not get a stop to save their life.

tomt4525

If WW completes this comeback, it will be the worst collapse by a team I've ever seen I think.

Quite frankly, if this is how Point's season ends, I have a feeling the roster will look a lot different as you'd expect next season.

'95 Blugold

Blugolds down the Titans 66-56. Titans closed to within 4 at one point in the second half, but the Blugolds didn't let it get any closer. Eau Claire shot 17-18 from the line.

Renta went down with injury towards the end of the game and didn't return. Hopefully he'll be good to go Wednesday at LaCrosse.

PauldingLightUP

Eau Claire just kept Oshkosh at arm's length to win by 10 66-56. While it still in reach at 6 LaChapell and Thomas missed front ends of one and one's and that was pretty much it.

LaChapell's last free throw of the season was a miss and finishes 85/89 on the season at 95.5%. That leads the NCAA currently. Should lead Division III at the end of the season, but some Division I guys could catch him if they play enough and make enough.

PauldingLightUP

Verges commits the foul with .9 to go and Butler makes two to seal an epic, weird win for Stevens Point.

I give Butler plenty of credit for playing a good portion of the second half with four fouls.

Top four best on best in a WIAC Wednesday.

Greek Tragedy

#23960
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 24, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIf WW completes this comeback, it will be the worst collapse by a team I've ever seen I think.

Quite frankly, if this is how Point's season ends, I have a feeling the roster will look a lot different as you'd expect next season.

Well, they barely won. But in what way would the roster change significantly? Krohn and Butler are still a couple of their best players. Obviously Abdul-Wahid and Bolden are gone. And you said you really like Miron. They really are still kind of a young team as a group with 2 senior transfers and 3 sophomores starting and a 2nd year coach.
Pointers
Breed of a Champion
2004, 2005, 2010 and 2015 National Champions

Fantasy Leagues Commissioner

TGHIJGSTO!!!

tomt4525

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 24, 2025, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: tomt4525 on February 24, 2025, 09:33:38 PMIf WW completes this comeback, it will be the worst collapse by a team I've ever seen I think.

Quite frankly, if this is how Point's season ends, I have a feeling the roster will look a lot different as you'd expect next season.

Well, they barely won. But in what way would the roster change significantly? Krohn and Butler are still a couple of their best players. Obviously Abdul-Wahid and Bolden are gone. And you said you really like Miron. They really are still kind of a young team as a group with 2 senior transfers and 3 sophomores starting and a 2nd year coach.

Teams collapse like that, and quite frankly, most of the conference season like Point has, it's natural for emotions to run high and people to come to tough decisions.  Players transfer or quit basketball all together after collapses like that.  If you listened to the post game interview with Coach Dernbach after the La Crosse loss, Coach alluded to it being disappointing with the team not coming together after all the extracurriculars of the game happening.  He mentioned the opposite happening.

I really like the core of this UWSP squad and hope they stick together, but they are still missing at the very least some depth pieces. 

Greek Tragedy

I'm a little surprised that Point didn't move up from their 44th post and Pool C 22 spot after their narrow escape last night. Whitewater was barely over the NPI 53.00 threshold for bonus points. As usual, none of that matters if they don't win Wednesday.
Pointers
Breed of a Champion
2004, 2005, 2010 and 2015 National Champions

Fantasy Leagues Commissioner

TGHIJGSTO!!!

ChickenHoops

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 25, 2025, 08:05:06 AMI'm a little surprised that Point didn't move up from their 44th post and Pool C 22 spot after their narrow escape last night. Whitewater was barely over the NPI 53.00 threshold for bonus points. As usual, none of that matters if they don't win Wednesday.

Their SOS is much weaker than many of the leading WIAC teams. Seems to mute any good results. www.d3datacast.com

Pat Coleman

Stevens Point went from 59.676 to 59.836. If they can get one more win -- I know, a tough ask -- they can drop Olivet from their calculation and that would make a big difference.
Publisher. Questions? Check our FAQ for D3f, D3h.
Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Greek Tragedy

Thanks Pat. That NPI is still Greek to me. I get a headache trying to figure it out completely.
Pointers
Breed of a Champion
2004, 2005, 2010 and 2015 National Champions

Fantasy Leagues Commissioner

TGHIJGSTO!!!

ziggy

Two wins over Stout are actually the lowest wins counting on UWSP's resume right now (then Olivet). The additional win over Whitewater knocked Lakeland below the point at which additional wins would hurt the Pointers and thereby is dropped from the calculation. The small increase in overall NPI is due to the incremental nature of that win replacing another in the resume.

ChickenHoops

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2025, 03:43:51 PMStevens Point went from 59.676 to 59.836. If they can get one more win -- I know, a tough ask -- they can drop Olivet from their calculation and that would make a big difference.

So if you schedule some weaker opponents but play enough games, they fall out?  Seems like a flaw in the system but I raise chickens for a (good) living.

ziggy

Quote from: ChickenHoops on February 26, 2025, 12:28:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 25, 2025, 03:43:51 PMStevens Point went from 59.676 to 59.836. If they can get one more win -- I know, a tough ask -- they can drop Olivet from their calculation and that would make a big difference.

So if you schedule some weaker opponents but play enough games, they fall out?  Seems like a flaw in the system but I raise chickens for a (good) living.

It is very much a feature, not a bug, on the premise that you shouldn't be hurt by winning. A minimum wins threshold is in place to ensure a reasonable portion of a team's schedule is included but once that threshold is reached any additional win that would lower your NPI when counted can be excluded. This is in contrast to the previous regional ranking system where there could be a phenomenon where a team got a win over a really bad team and somehow looked worse in the criteria because the SOS hit was larger than the WP gain.

PauldingLightUP

#23969
I am anxiously waiting for All WIAC team to be announced. Normally happens sometime during Tournament week.