MBB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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Quote from: chmarx on February 28, 2007, 11:52:04 PM
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Wheaton's all time leading rebounder is Mel Peterson, with 1767. He's also the all-time leading scorer, field goal and free throw shooter. Under him the Crusaders won the NCAA Small College National Tournament... Yeah, that was 1957.... and the last time Wheaton has been that far in the playoffs.  :-[

Wheaton's All American and current assistant coach, Nate Frank, topped out at  928 boards. That's the highest since the DIII era.

I don't exactly mind that Kalsow, my fav WIACer ever, leads that list. How many other records does he have?  ;D
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Quote from: Stout survivor on February 28, 2007, 09:42:19 PM
diehardfan you can talk as much as you want.... you are much more valuable then a mere second stringer like myself. 

I wonder if Pat gets a gift basket or something for coming on stoutguy's show .. I did not get jack but a man with the prestige as Pat should get something .... if not he must be the nicest man in the nation.

Hmm, not that I know of, but Bob (or Steve) let me get a pop from the machine the one time I was "in studio" for the show a few years back. :)
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Kalsow leads UWSP's recordbook in points and rebounds, and #2 in assists.  As mentioned before, he technically doesn't have WIAC/WSUC records... those were grandfathered in from the WSUC and as far as I'm concerned, they still apply.  Even through the name and athletic association changed, the schools are (mostly) unchanged.

You can see other Point records HERE.

Also, SP SID Jim Strick put together a game preview with both Loras and St. John's found HERE.

Now, back to Point records... Nick Bennett was just 3 points away from being the school's #2 all-time scorer... and, ironically, he said when the exhibition game against Marquette was scheduled that caused SP to "lose" a game during the regular season that it would affect him breaking records... and then it did!  Had he scored 21 second half points in the National Championship game he would have, I believe, tied Tim Naegeli, whose school record Kalsow had broken earlier in the year.

Speaking of records... Pete Rortvedt has already broken Nick Bennett's 3-point record for made shots in a season, having made 91.  He currently is 4th on the Pointer's career 3 pt list with 162, just a scant 70 3's away from Bennett's record.  He's on pace to shatter both conference and SP career records.

And also speaking of records... Point currently has the best all-time winning percentage in the NCAA tournament at 16-3 in 5 previous trips and is carrying an 11 game NCAA tourney winning streak which is second only to North Park (who had, I believe 16 straight) for longest in the tournament.
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Quote from: PointSpecial on March 01, 2007, 02:28:28 AM
And also speaking of records... Point currently has the best all-time winning percentage in the NCAA tournament at 16-3 in 5 previous trips and is carrying an 11 game NCAA tourney winning streak which is second only to North Park (who had, I believe 16 straight) for longest in the tournament.

The 11 game streak is impressive.  I wouldn't get too excited about "best all-time winning % in NCAA tournament" stat.  Yeah, it's a very good winning %, but you also have to take into account they haven't been in the NCAA very long (playing in the NAIA tourneys) .  Teams like Whitewater (I think) and then you can go nationally, have been in the NCAA a lot longer than Point and have A LOT more tournament wins as well.  I mean, saying Point has the best winning % (in 19 games) might be more impressive than [fill in a team name here]'s 50-25 mark in the tourney is like saying something like the St. Louis Rams' playoff winning % is better than the Steelers' winning % (which I don't know is true, but taking a few good years vs. a traditional powerhouse)...anyway... ;D :D
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Quote from: Old School on March 01, 2007, 06:25:03 AM
Quote from: PointSpecial on March 01, 2007, 02:28:28 AM
And also speaking of records... Point currently has the best all-time winning percentage in the NCAA tournament at 16-3 in 5 previous trips and is carrying an 11 game NCAA tourney winning streak which is second only to North Park (who had, I believe 16 straight) for longest in the tournament.

The 11 game streak is impressive.  I wouldn't get too excited about "best all-time winning % in NCAA tournament" stat.  Yeah, it's a very good winning %, but you also have to take into account they haven't been in the NCAA very long (playing in the NAIA tourneys) .  Teams like Whitewater (I think) and then you can go nationally, have been in the NCAA a lot longer than Point and have A LOT more tournament wins as well.  I mean, saying Point has the best winning % (in 19 games) might be more impressive than [fill in a team name here]'s 50-25 mark in the tourney is like saying something like the St. Louis Rams' playoff winning % is better than the Steelers' winning % (which I don't know is true, but taking a few good years vs. a traditional powerhouse)...anyway... ;D :D

Actually, PS's point is valid, OS. There aren't many schools that have played in as many tourney games as has UWSP, and that's in spite of the relatively short tenure of the Pointers within the D3 ranks. There are 40 schools that have played more D3 tourney games than have the Pointers. That may sound like a lot, but it really isn't when you stop to consider that that's only about 10% of D3's membership. UWSP's high rank in all-time winning percentage is legitimate.

Let me put it another way: UWSP has played in 19 tournament games to date. Ripon has also played in 19 tournament games to date. Ripon's been a D3 member since the inception of the division back in 1974-75, and under Bob Gillespie's predecessor Doc Weiske the school made its first tourney appearance back in 1978. And Ripon's been the closest thing to a dominant program that the MWC has had over the lifespan of D3; they've been to ten tourneys, which is more than any other MWC program. UWSP's only been to five (this will be the sixth for the Pointers), but winning so many games in each trip to the dance has allowed UWSP to accumulate a lot of games played in a short amount of time.

However, what PS posted is not 100% accurate. UWSP has the highest winning percentage only if you qualify the list by limiting it to, say, schools that have made multiple trips to the big dance, or schools that have played in a minimum of ten D3 tourney games, or something to that effect. Why? Because Ohio Wesleyan has a perfect winning percentage of 1.000. The Battling Bishops have only made it to the D3 tourney once, back in March of 1988. And they won that tournament ... so they're a perfect 5-0 in D3 tourney play.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 01, 2007, 02:13:22 AM
Quote from: Stout survivor on February 28, 2007, 09:42:19 PM
diehardfan you can talk as much as you want.... you are much more valuable then a mere second stringer like myself. 

I wonder if Pat gets a gift basket or something for coming on stoutguy's show .. I did not get jack but a man with the prestige as Pat should get something .... if not he must be the nicest man in the nation.

Hmm, not that I know of, but Bob (or Steve) let me get a pop from the machine the one time I was "in studio" for the show a few years back. :)

Pat, that was me.

If Stoutguy starts giving away my inventory we are going to have some issues.  :D

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Quote from: BlueDevil Bob on March 01, 2007, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 01, 2007, 02:13:22 AM
Quote from: Stout survivor on February 28, 2007, 09:42:19 PM
diehardfan you can talk as much as you want.... you are much more valuable then a mere second stringer like myself. 

I wonder if Pat gets a gift basket or something for coming on stoutguy's show .. I did not get jack but a man with the prestige as Pat should get something .... if not he must be the nicest man in the nation.

Hmm, not that I know of, but Bob (or Steve) let me get a pop from the machine the one time I was "in studio" for the show a few years back. :)

Pat, that was me.

If Stoutguy starts giving away my inventory we are going to have some issues:D

Maybe I should bring in that moose hat that Jake Bostrom always wanted me to wear when we went on the road with the moose van.  I think Pat would look good in that.

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It's already been released on the conference website...http://www.uwsa.edu/wiac/mbasket/07allconference.html


Werner is POY and the Max Spangler Scholar Athlete as well.   When you look at the list the first team is listed in the order in which they received votes which means that Werner, Rotveldt and Krull were the three finalists for POY.  Interestingly Jim Cappelle who has been among the top three, I believe both last year and the year before, finished fourth this time followed by Gibson.

Wasn't sure any WARHAWKS were going to make it but Price snuck in under the wire. 

Congrats to all the players named and to Coach Semling. 
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with help from his coach Price will be POY next year

BDshotblocker

I don't want to take anything away from Bob Semling, he's a great coach who has seamlessly filled the spot of Jack Bennet.  BUT, the job the Ken Koelbl has done with the La Crosse program is remarkable.  4 years ago Lax played Superior for the final playoff spot, and lost.  Now he's built up a program that made it to the NCAA tourney last year, and finished second in the conference this year.  Koelbl should have been coach of the year, in my opinion.

And.........I'll say it..................congrats to Joe Werner on POY.

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And congrats to you, Shotblocker, on a well deserved first team all conference selection.

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: BDshotblocker on March 01, 2007, 11:33:47 AM
I don't want to take anything away from Bob Semling, he's a great coach who has seamlessly filled the spot of Jack Bennet.  BUT, the job the Ken Koelbl has done with the La Crosse program is remarkable.  4 years ago Lax played Superior for the final playoff spot, and lost.  Now he's built up a program that made it to the NCAA tourney last year, and finished second in the conference this year.  Koelbl should have been coach of the year, in my opinion.

And.........I'll say it..................congrats to Joe Werner on POY.

I think Koelbl has done a great job too.  If he duplicates it next year w/o Werner I'd imagine he'd be the heads on favorite.
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Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2007, 06:57:51 AM
However, what PS posted is not 100% accurate. UWSP has the highest winning percentage only if you qualify the list by limiting it to, say, schools that have made multiple trips to the big dance, or schools that have played in a minimum of ten D3 tourney games, or something to that effect. Why? Because Ohio Wesleyan has a perfect winning percentage of 1.000. The Battling Bishops have only made it to the D3 tourney once, back in March of 1988. And they won that tournament ... so they're a perfect 5-0 in D3 tourney play.

You're right, I did forget about OWU.  It simply slipped my mind and I made the erroneous assumption that a team who could reach the pinacle of the D-III basketball world would be a team that would have made strides over the years to reach those heights.  ... This was the case with all other champions... but taking a cursory look at the champions in the last 20 or so years, each team (save OWU) has made the NCAA tournament and achieved at least a second round berth in either the year before or the year after their National Championship run... which would seem to make sense... Due the fact that most players are at school for multiple years, combinations of players that "work" one year should "work" in other years too.

Btw, congrats to the All-conference team!  Regarding Coach Semling's COY pick... he did lead the team that was selected third in conference to the conference championship, with a team that leads all of college basketball in free-throw percentage, fewest turnovers per game, and assist to TO ration (the TEAM is over 2:1 assist-TO ratio!).  In just his second year as coach, he led the team to the second best record in the conference's history.  And, though I don't think this is really criteria for COY, Point won 5 games more this season than last.  This was the most improvement by any team this season.

This is in no way trying to take away from where Coach Koelbl has taken the Eagle program.  Leading the team to its first NCAA bid and turning the program from a team battling to get INTO the conference tournament to a team battling for the regular season title and the conference tournament title in 4 short seasons is really remarkable.  The UWL program is definitely moving in the right direction.
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National Champions: 2015, 2010, 2005, 2004

NCAA appearances: 2018, '15, '14, '13, '12, '11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '05, '04, '03, '00, 1997

WIAC/WSUC Champs: 2015, '14, '13, '11, '09, '07, '05, '03, '02, '01, '00, 1993, '92, '87, '86, '85, '84, '83, '82, '69, '61, '57, '48, '42, '37, '36, '35, '33, '18

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