All Americans

[sludge]

Exhibit A for why there needs to be a standard format for positions on All-American teams.

The NABC D1 first team has no one over 6-9 and the second team has no one under 6-7.


Check it out.

They do have a guy on there, Tyler Hansbrough, who can make a credible claim to playing center (or at least WWF) at 6'9".

[fpc85]

is there a NABC d3 all american team...is so, where can i find it.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

is there a NABC d3 all american team...is so, where can i find it.

I don't think they've announced it yet.  They've only announced player(s) of the year as far as I can tell.

[diehardfan]

OS.... I am in TJ on my way to Ensenada. MX... i just dont think that AA list is going to happen... I'll post it when I get back and even less people are paying attention... LOL

Sorry

[MR. PAC]

When do preseason all-americans come out?

[Mr. Ypsi]

When do preseason all-americans come out?

With no letters of intent, one can't even know who is returning until camps open!  I'd guess late October at the earliest.

[MR. PAC]

Thank you, Mr. Ypsi.

[nescac1]

Should be fairly predictable this year ... the co-players of the year (C Ben Strong and PG Andrew Olson) both return and are locks, and Kent Raymond and James Cooper will fight it out for the other guard spot.  Forward is the only question mark ...

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

It seems to me that Larry Welton is a lock for a spot at Forward.  Cooper, Olson, Welton, and Strong were the only juniors among the top four teams at the end of the year, and all consensus great players.  None of them really came out of nowhere.  I expect Troy Ruths would be the other forward as he's on a fantastic team with a lot of press.  That would probably be my top team anyway.

[sludge]

Looking back, here's the NABC 2007  Division III (D3) All American Team

First Team
Chad McGowan        York (PA)
Ray Bryant            Utica College
Andrew Olson         Amherst
Isaac Rosefelt         St. Thomas
Kent Raymond         Wheaton
Thomas Baker         Rowan
Tom Port             Wooster
Ben Strong           Guilford College

Second Team
Jared Yoder            Messiah
Tsankani Ngobeni   Hamilton
Eric Downie            Salem State
Joe Werner            UW LaCrosse
Larry Welton       Aurora
Mike Hoyt             Mt. St. Mary
Tori Davis            Baldwin Wallace
D.J. Jones            Mississippi College

Third Team
Nick Shattuck         Ursinus
Anthony Williams   Plattsburgh
Ryan Cain             WPI
Kyle White            Loras College
Troy Ruths            Washington University
Luis Martinez         William Paterson
Stephen Cramer   Hope College
Bobby Golden        Maryville College

The somewhat similar D3hoops.com 2007 All American team is available at this link:
http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/07/menallam07.htm

[Titan Q]

Sporting News/Street & Smith's 2007-08 Division III Preseason All-American Team:


1st Team

James Cooper, Wooster
Andrew Olson, Amherst
Troy Ruths, Wash U
Ben Strong, Guilford
Larry Welton, Aurora

2nd Team

Sherod Harris, Brockport St
Chad McGowan, York (Pa)
Kent Raymond, Wheaton (IL)
Nick Shattuck, Ursinus
Anthony Williams, Plattsburgh St

Honorable Mention:

Ton Ton Balenga, VA Wesleyan
Damien Brown, Averett
Matt Brynes, Rowan
Steve DeLuca, Brandeis
Jason Foster, Puget Sound
Travis Gorham, Plattsburgh St
Nate Hainje, Chicago
Steve Hicklin, UW-Stevens Point
Craig Johnson, Coast Guard
Tyler Kathan, Keene St
Kyle Kuenstling, Coe
Jeremiah Lawrence, Shenandoah
Russell Martin, Trinity (Ct)
Onyie Onunaku, Shenandoah
Jonathan Onyiriuka, Rochester
Anthony Pettaway, Defiance
Pete Rortvedt, UW-Stevens Point
Chris Rose, Williams
Chris Shalvoy, Williams
Jeff Skemp, UW-Platteville
Nate Stahl, Capital
Ryan Symes, Whitworth
Brandon Todd, Muskingum
Derek Van Solkema, Hope
Caleb Veldhouse, Calvin
Sean Wallis, Wash U
Kyle White, Loras
Brandon Williams, Brockport St
Andrew Zimmer, Wabash

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Hard to argue with that first team.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Looking back, here's the NABC 2007  Division III (D3) All American Team

First Team
Chad McGowan        York (PA)
Ray Bryant            Utica College
Andrew Olson         Amherst
Isaac Rosefelt         St. Thomas
Kent Raymond         Wheaton
Thomas Baker         Rowan
Tom Port             Wooster
Ben Strong           Guilford College

Second Team
Jared Yoder            Messiah
Tsankani Ngobeni   Hamilton
Eric Downie            Salem State
Joe Werner            UW LaCrosse
Larry Welton       Aurora
Mike Hoyt             Mt. St. Mary
Tori Davis            Baldwin Wallace
D.J. Jones            Mississippi College

Third Team
Nick Shattuck         Ursinus
Anthony Williams   Plattsburgh
Ryan Cain             WPI
Kyle White            Loras College
Troy Ruths            Washington University
Luis Martinez         William Paterson
Stephen Cramer   Hope College
Bobby Golden        Maryville College

The somewhat similar D3hoops.com 2007 All American team is available at this link:
http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/07/menallam07.htm

Any All-America team without Zach Freeman in the top THIRTY(!) tells me all I need to know about the NABC voters.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for d3hoops.com!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Isn't the NABC just based on the regional voting?  Freeman didn't finish in the top 3 for his region, so he doesn't qualify for the top three all-american teams.

I didn't say it made sense, but it seems to be using the same logic as the NCAA, national rankings based on regional criteria.

[Mr. Ypsi]

HF,

Yeah, you're correct.  Also, I can't count - if I had noticed they had 8, not 10, per team, I might have remembered their silly regional representation.  But that alone (the assumption that all regions are identical in bball talent)  disqualifies the NABC AA list from being taken seriously, IMO.