All Americans

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Titan Q

I think the 2009-10 D3hoops.com All-America team is very well done.  One change I would have made...I'd have Matt Moses ahead of Ben Panner at that guard spot.  Having seen both play, I'm very confident Moses is the better player.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Titan Q on March 22, 2010, 10:27:28 PM
I think the 2009-10 D3hoops.com All-America team is very well done.  One change I would have made...I'd have Matt Moses ahead of Ben Panner at that guard spot.  Having seen both play, I'm very confident Moses is the better player.
UT-Dallas might be able to comment.  Unfortunately, UTD has very few posters, in any sports.

magicman

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 22, 2010, 09:25:59 PM
I guess if we named 35 honorable mentions we would get a lot fewer complaints.

I don't think Steve Djurickovic should be second team to anyone, fwiw.

Not only does Steve D. not make the 1st team but Todd Phillips of Eastern Mennonite doesn't make their list anywhere, not even honorable mentioon. This publication did the same screwy things last year.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: magicman on March 22, 2010, 10:48:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 22, 2010, 09:25:59 PM
I guess if we named 35 honorable mentions we would get a lot fewer complaints.

I don't think Steve Djurickovic should be second team to anyone, fwiw.

Not only does Steve D. not make the 1st team but Todd Phillips of Eastern Mennonite doesn't make their list anywhere, not even honorable mentioon. This publication did the same screwy things last year.
Did someone nominate Todd Phillips to the All-Region panel?

Pat Coleman

Todd Phillips made our team, Ralph. It's DIII News that left him off.
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 22, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
Todd Phillips made our team, Ralph. It's DIII News that left him off.
My bad!  :-\

Hugenerd

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 22, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 22, 2010, 09:25:59 PM
I guess if we named 35 honorable mentions we would get a lot fewer complaints.

I don't think Steve Djurickovic should be second team to anyone, fwiw.

If you had five teams PLUS 35 HMs, yet still could not find room for either Doug Sexauer or Sean Johnson of Elite Eight IWU, I'd have a complaint! :D

While a case could be made for either Sanborn or Djurickovic (perhaps even Blake Schultz) for POY, leaving Steve D. off the first team automatically disqualifies the selections to me.

I think we have this same conversation every year and everyone agrees that the DIIINews is the worst at this.

Pat, you would also get less complaints if people had no means of leaving feedback and you only had 4 releases each year that were a couple of pages long.

RustCollege

tell me how can Markeith Wilson of rust college not make the all american team he shoots 42% from the 3pt line and 49% FG

Games played: 24
Minutes/game: 25.0
Points/game: 15.7
FG Pct: 49.6
3FG Pct: 42.1
FT Pct: 56.0

Rebounds/game: 2.7
Assists/game: 1.0
Turnovers/game: 1.5
Assist/turnover ratio: 0.7
Steals/game: 1.2
Blocks/game: 0.1

magicman

Last year DIII News did the same thing as they had D3Hoops Player of the Year Jimmy Bartolotta on their 2nd team. They also left Sean Wallis, Steve Djurickovoic, Tyler Kathan of Keene St. and Jeff Skemp of UW-Platteville off their 5 teams giving all 4 honorable mention status. They omitted Myles McKay of UW-Whitewater completely.  At least they spelled the player's names right this year. That's an improvement over 2009. :D        

Titan Q

Quote from: RustCollege on March 23, 2010, 01:36:22 AM
tell me how can Markeith Wilson of rust college not make the all american team he shoots 42% from the 3pt line and 49% FG

Games played: 24
Minutes/game: 25.0
Points/game: 15.7
FG Pct: 49.6
3FG Pct: 42.1
FT Pct: 56.0

Rebounds/game: 2.7
Assists/game: 1.0
Turnovers/game: 1.5
Assist/turnover ratio: 0.7
Steals/game: 1.2
Blocks/game: 0.1


Illinois Wesleyan guard Sean Johnson...

17.0 ppg
3.2 rpg
3.1 apg
75-181 3-pt (.414)
103-127 FT (.811)
A:TO = 1.25

Team finish = 23-8/Elite 8


I haven't seen anyone complain about Sean Johnson not making one of the guard spots, and it would seem to me that Wilson would at least be behind Johnson.  (Not to mention whoever the other near miss guards are, like UW-Stevens Point PG Matt Moses.)

When you look into the credentials of the guys who made the AA team you find one common theme - they all had great seasons.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: hugenerd on March 23, 2010, 12:54:18 AM
Pat, you would also get less complaints if people had no means of leaving feedback and you only had 4 releases each year that were a couple of pages long.

I will have to consider this. :)
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"Since 1991, we have been the leading authority on small college basketball. "


You might want to re-think this statement.  How can any "leading authority" publish the All-American list that you just did??  Blake Schultz ahead of Steve Djurickovic for a first team AA guard?  Look at the numbers:
               PPG      A      RPG      Minutes      FG %      3pt%      FT%
Player A            24.4      218      4.5      37.1      .525      .410      .877

Player B            19.2      58      4.3      30.8      .526      .520      .857

"Experts"??  Hardly.




I will post any response I receive...

Hugenerd

Sometimes I feel like they make these omissions/first-team selections solely to be different.  If they had the exact same players as the other two all-america teams, then maybe they would get even less attention than they already do.

Just Bill

Quote from: RustCollege on March 23, 2010, 01:36:22 AM
tell me how can Markeith Wilson of rust college not make the all american team he shoots 42% from the 3pt line and 49% FG

Games played: 24
Minutes/game: 25.0
Points/game: 15.7
FG Pct: 49.6
3FG Pct: 42.1
FT Pct: 56.0

Rebounds/game: 2.7
Assists/game: 1.0
Turnovers/game: 1.5
Assist/turnover ratio: 0.7
Steals/game: 1.2
Blocks/game: 0.1


You can't make All-American if you don't make All-Region. He didn't make All-Region.

Do you know for sure that he was nominated? Rust hasn't always been an active participant on this site, to say the least.
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Hugenerd

Quote from: Just Bill on March 23, 2010, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: RustCollege on March 23, 2010, 01:36:22 AM
tell me how can Markeith Wilson of rust college not make the all american team he shoots 42% from the 3pt line and 49% FG

Games played: 24
Minutes/game: 25.0
Points/game: 15.7
FG Pct: 49.6
3FG Pct: 42.1
FT Pct: 56.0

Rebounds/game: 2.7
Assists/game: 1.0
Turnovers/game: 1.5
Assist/turnover ratio: 0.7
Steals/game: 1.2
Blocks/game: 0.1


You can't make All-American if you don't make All-Region. He didn't make All-Region.

Do you know for sure that he was nominated? Rust hasn't always been an active participant on this site, to say the least.

The Rookie of the Year in the South was from Rust this year.