All Americans

[Hugenerd]

tell me how can Markeith Wilson of rust college not make the all american team he shoots 42% from the 3pt line and 49% FG

Games played: 24
Minutes/game: 25.0
Points/game: 15.7
FG Pct: 49.6
3FG Pct: 42.1
FT Pct: 56.0

Rebounds/game: 2.7
Assists/game: 1.0
Turnovers/game: 1.5
Assist/turnover ratio: 0.7
Steals/game: 1.2
Blocks/game: 0.1

Noel Hollingsworth from MIT didnt make it on the d3hoops teams either and he averaged:


Points/game: 20.4
FG Pct: 56.0
3FG Pct: 42.5
Rebounds/game: 9.0
Blocks/game: 1.4

he was first team in the NE, second team NABC all-america, and was on a team that was 22-5 (22-4 against non-D1).  He is a forward/center, so wouldnt be competing for a guard spot, but as you can see from this example and the ones Titan Q gave, there are players with better stats from NCAA teams that were also left off.

[Pat Coleman]

For what it's worth, looks like we're the lone wolf on Steve Djurickovic as POTY this year. Just got a tweet from Tyler Sanborn that he's making a trip to Indianapolis on the NABC's dime. Have to assume that means he's the POTY.

[Just Bill]

I'd have to check, but I wonder if the NABC ever picked a non-senior as Player of the Year.  Not that Sanborn isn't worthy, but I imagine some might favor the senior over the junior.

[Gregory Sager]

I guess if we named 35 honorable mentions we would get a lot fewer complaints.

I don't think Steve Djurickovic should be second team to anyone, fwiw.

If you had five teams PLUS 35 HMs, yet still could not find room for either Doug Sexauer or Sean Johnson of Elite Eight IWU, I'd have a complaint!

Or Ben Panner or Tim McCrary, both of whom are d3hoops.com All-Americans but failed to even get their names listed among the mob that made DIII News honorable mention.

While a case could be made for either Sanborn or Djurickovic (perhaps even Blake Schultz) for POY, leaving Steve D. off the first team automatically disqualifies the selections to me.

I completely agree, Chuck.

[mwunder]

For what it's worth, looks like we're the lone wolf on Steve Djurickovic as POTY this year. Just got a tweet from Tyler Sanborn that he's making a trip to Indianapolis on the NABC's dime. Have to assume that means he's the POTY.

At least someone got it right!!

[frank uible]

Sausage making.

[Hugenerd]

For what it's worth, looks like we're the lone wolf on Steve Djurickovic as POTY this year. Just got a tweet from Tyler Sanborn that he's making a trip to Indianapolis on the NABC's dime. Have to assume that means he's the POTY.

I fully expected this, based on the current format and the invitation to the Senior All-Star Game that comes this award, it would not make sense for them to choose a non-senior.  I thought Sanborn was the favorite with a slight chance of Schultz getting it.  Let's just hope he doesn't get Nolan Richardson as his coach at the All-Star game.

[Mr. Ypsi]

For what it's worth, looks like we're the lone wolf on Steve Djurickovic as POTY this year. Just got a tweet from Tyler Sanborn that he's making a trip to Indianapolis on the NABC's dime. Have to assume that means he's the POTY.

At least someone got it right!!

As a CCIW partisan, I agreed with Djurickovic, but would have had no problem at all with Sanborn.  While a couple of others (especially Schultz) deserved careful consideration, I thought Steve and Tyler were clearly the primary choices.

[Gregory Sager]

For what it's worth, looks like we're the lone wolf on Steve Djurickovic as POTY this year. Just got a tweet from Tyler Sanborn that he's making a trip to Indianapolis on the NABC's dime. Have to assume that means he's the POTY.

At least someone got it right!!

As a CCIW partisan, I agreed with Djurickovic, but would have had no problem at all with Sanborn.  While a couple of others (especially Schultz) deserved careful consideration, I thought Steve and Tyler were clearly the primary choices.

I wouldn't have had an issue with Sanborn getting it, either, particularly since his team reached the Final Four and Djurickovic's didn't. But the idea of leaving Djurickovic off of the first team of any D3 All-American squad is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, c'mon ... he scored 84 more points than anyone else in D3 and dished out more dimes than anyone else in D3 save Sean Rossi of Ithaca (he had 221 assists, Steve D. had 218). Djurickovic finished third in points per game and fourth in assists per game -- the sort of combination you don't often see in the national statistical ledgers -- and finished fourteenth in the nation in free-throw percentage, to boot. (He also made and attempted more free throws than any other D3 player).

I'm sorry, but the decision of DIII News to leave Steve Djurickovic off of its All-American first team is an egregious mistake. As Chuck said, it completely invalidates their entire All-American team.

[Hugenerd]

For what it's worth, looks like we're the lone wolf on Steve Djurickovic as POTY this year. Just got a tweet from Tyler Sanborn that he's making a trip to Indianapolis on the NABC's dime. Have to assume that means he's the POTY.

At least someone got it right!!

As a CCIW partisan, I agreed with Djurickovic, but would have had no problem at all with Sanborn.  While a couple of others (especially Schultz) deserved careful consideration, I thought Steve and Tyler were clearly the primary choices.

I wouldn't have had an issue with Sanborn getting it, either, particularly since his team reached the Final Four and Djurickovic's didn't. But the idea of leaving Djurickovic off of the first team of any D3 All-American squad is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, c'mon ... he scored 84 more points than anyone else in D3 and dished out more dimes than anyone else in D3 save Sean Rossi of Ithaca (he had 221 assists, Steve D. had 218). Djurickovic finished third in points per game and fourth in assists per game -- the sort of combination you don't often see in the national statistical ledgers -- and finished fourteenth in the nation in free-throw percentage, to boot. (He also made and attempted more free throws than any other D3 player).

I'm sorry, but the decision of DIII News to leave Steve Djurickovic off of its All-American first team is an egregious mistake. As Chuck said, it completely invalidates their entire All-American team.

Leaving  Djurickovic off the first team is clearly an egregious error, but I still think it is nothing compared to the omission they made last year (and I am not talking about Bartolotta on the 2nd team) when they left Jeff Skemp off of all 5 teams (he was 1st team AA from both NABC and d3hoops and was west region player of the year for both as well).

[mwunder]

I wouldn't have had an issue with Sanborn getting it, either, particularly since his team reached the Final Four and Djurickovic's didn't.

It's an individual award, not a team award.  Steve lead a team of freshman and sophomores to the Sweet 16.  Sanborn didn't even play 27 minutes a game and led a team of juniors and seniors to the final four.

[GCfaithful]

However, Sanborn had 30, count them, 30 double doubles.  That's pretty good IMO.

[Pat Coleman]

It's not as easy to get double-doubles as a guard, though.

[Gregory Sager]

I wouldn't have had an issue with Sanborn getting it, either, particularly since his team reached the Final Four and Djurickovic's didn't.

It's an individual award, not a team award.  Steve lead a team of freshman and sophomores to the Sweet 16.  Sanborn didn't even play 27 minutes a game and led a team of juniors and seniors to the final four.

I agree, but the truth of the matter -- as we have often discussed on CCIW Chat -- is that team performance has a definite impact upon individual awards, whether justified or not.

[Hugenerd]

Only F Kyle Meyer of Ohio Northern (12-14) and F/C Michael McClary of Olivet (14-13) were on teams with records ~0.500 or worse and made the All-American team (honorable-mention for both).  Meyer averaged 18.6 ppg (59.3% FG), 7.6 rpg, and 0.92 bpg.  McClary averaged 19.8 ppg (51.6% FG), 11.0 rbg, and 1.6 bpg.  However, every other player selected was on a team with a winning percentage of at least 64%.  Also, having said that, there were players like Doug Sexauer from IWU, David Golembiowski from SUNYIT, and Noel Hollingsworth from MIT who all had very comparable numbers to the two players above and were on teams that had much better winning percentages, but were not selected.  Therefore, the team record is not a hard rule, although does clearly play some role based on the fact that 23/25 players selected were on teams that won at least about 2/3 of their games.