All Americans

[sac]

.......or does it just say if you have a great player who can put up those statistical numbers good enough for AA......you usually win a lot?

[Pat Coleman]

Chicken, meet egg. Egg, meet chicken. That is indeed the conundrum.

[Hugenerd]

.......or does it just say if you have a great player who can put up those statistical numbers good enough for AA......you usually win a lot?

I dont agree with that at all.  You make it sound as if most players who put up those kind of numbers are on really successful teams.  If you look at the top 20 scorers in the country each year, at least about 10 (the majority) are from teams with winning percentages below ~.600 (and often much lower than that).  And thats not true just for scoring, that is pretty much the case for any statistic.  I think that is why it is difficult to put players on teams that are not very successful on All-America teams (I am not saying it shouldnt be done, just that it is a bit more tricky).  This is because being on a bad team can have one of two effects: 1) your numbers go up because: a) you have the ball in your hands more, b) you are the first option (whereas if you were on a better team you may not be), c) the coach gives you more freedom (shooting, going for steals, etc.) and you know you aren't going to sit because you are head and shoulders better than your replacement; or 2) your numbers go down because you garner much more attention from opposing teams (double or even triple teams), whereas on a better team you would get more single coverage situations.  


On a seperate note, I was just looking at the stats from this season.  Did anyone notice the season Juan Paulino had from Wells (21-7, lost in the NEAC championship to SUNYIT).  The guy led the country in FG% (70.1%), he led the country in rebounding (16.5 per game), was 14th in the country in blocks (2.6 per game) and was also ranked nationally in scoring (17.1 ppg), steals (1.9 per game), and assists (2.8 per game), and he didn't even make first team in his own region (the East).  Surprised he didn't receive more attention (you really cant put him on AA over a guy on the first team in the region, like Golembiowski, given the SID voting, but I am surprised he wasnt even first team in the region).

[watcher]

I wish either camontae griffin or alex franz would got alittle more respect for All American. They carried a team to a 26-4 record and the sweet 16 and number 12 national ranking. I think one of them should have been on the list

[Hugenerd]

Couldnt think of a better board to post this on, but the NABC named their 2010 Honors Court, which is a distinction given the juniors and seniors who maintain a 3.2 GPA or higher.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nabc/genrel/auto_pdf/HonorsCourt7-21.pdf

[RustCollege]

We need to look at Markeith Wilson 6'3 and Larry Veasley 6'7 of Rust College as All Americans for this up coming season they really good players they need your vote

[Titan Q]

Sporting News preseason All-America Team...

First Team
Steve Djurickovic (Carthage)
Marcel Esonwune (York-NY)
Ian Franks (Wooster)
James McNally (Franklin & Marshall)
Todd Phillips (Eastern Mennonite)

Second Team
Noel Hollingsworth (MIT)
Tim McCrary (Wheaton)
Tyler Nicolai (St. Thomas)
Andrew Powers (Gettysburg)
James Wang (Williams)

[Hugenerd]

Nice, thanks for passing that on.

[Hugenerd]

There is a conversation about the preseason top 25 on the "Top 25" board, so who are people's picks for preseason All-Americans?

I will start the conversations off with a couple of players from the team that I follow closely, MIT.

Center Noel Hollingsworth was 2009 D3hoops.com 1st team All-Northeast, 2nd team All-American NABC, and already named a 2010 2nd team preseason All-American by the Sporthing news last year.  He averaged 20.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, and 1.4 bpg, while shooting 56% from the field and 42.5% from 3 last season.

Although Hollingsworth gets all the attention because of his stats, which he deserves, MIT's real most valuable player is arguable point guard Mitchell Kates.  Kates was voted D3hoops.com Northeast region Rookie of th Year last season, as a freshman.  He led the team in minutes played, scored 13.2 ppg, 4.2 apg, 3.3 rpg, and 2.1 spg.

Someone else who should be on people's radar is forward Will Tashman. This year may be premature to put him in the All-American conversation, but he has the size and skill to compete with any DIII 4 in the country. He averaged 9 points and 7 boards a game last year, but he has improved a lot since last season and should be a double-double machine this season.

I am sure there are a lot of candidates out there, I look forward to hearing about people's thoughts.

[OUSID]

Another name worthy of All-American consideration is Oglethorpe University senior forward Todd Ward. Ward was a Preseason Second Team All-American selection last October and had an outstanding season despite playing injured throughout the campaign. Slowed by a high ankle sprain, Ward still managed to average 13.2 ppg and 8.8 rpg (2nd in SCAC) and led the conference in double-doubles while posting the fourth best field goal percentage in the SCAC (.476). As a healthy sophomore Ward averaged 17.0 ppg (good for 3rd in the SCAC) and 10.2 rpg (led the conference) and again led the conference in double-doubles while shooting 55.7% from the field (2nd in SCAC).

He was named First Team All-SCAC in both his sophomore and junior seasons and, at 100% health, is ready for a monster senior campaign. He is also on pace to become the SCAC's all-time leading rebounder.

To catch a glimpse of the senior forward (wearing #15 and #5 in these clips) in action, go here:
http://vimeo.com/13394087

[Hugenerd]

Preseason All-Americans announced:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2011

OUSID, Todd Ward made it on the Honorable Mention team.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Kind of daring to put Jared Jenkins (UWSP) on there since there is a lot of speculation that he won't play this year (may be trying for an NFL career).

[toooldtoplay]

Noted that Noel Hollingsworth is only a junior and listed as a senior unless I'm missing something. He was a sophomore transfer from Brown last year.

[Hugenerd]

Noted that Noel Hollingsworth is only a junior and listed as a senior unless I'm missing something. He was a sophomore transfer from Brown last year.

You are correct, I sent Pat a message about this earlier.

[KnightSlappy]

I'm kinda surprised no one from Rust was mentioned. Must have just missed the cut.