All Americans

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Sheesh... the champions were crowned two days ago... Hoopsville wraps up the season tonight... and you are asking for predictions for pre-season AA's already?!

I should knock your karma for asking such a question when we barely have detoxed from the 2011-2012 season!

[Knightstalker]

D3 Hoops is like crack for some people, they just can't get enough.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Sheesh... the champions were crowned two days ago... Hoopsville wraps up the season tonight... and you are asking for predictions for pre-season AA's already?!

I should knock your karma for asking such a question when we barely have detoxed from the 2011-2012 season!

You have to detox from it - the rest of us haven't yet recognized our addiction.  We're just enjoying the ride.

I was simply pointing out the coincidence of having a full five man team of underclassmen ready to go for next year (and a very fine team, at that).

[Pat Coleman]

Sheesh... the champions were crowned two days ago... Hoopsville wraps up the season tonight... and you are asking for predictions for pre-season AA's already?!

I should knock your karma for asking such a question when we barely have detoxed from the 2011-2012 season!

Actually, I usually start creating the next year's list right now while it's fresh in my mind.

[Greek Tragedy]

They have been released at the Final Four for at least the past decade. It's primarily based on the regular season but we would be fools to ignore games in the past three weeks, especially ones that happen right in front of us in Salem and (this year) Holland.

We might release on Friday this year but the principle remains the same.

Part of me wants to argue this point, but I would never be foolish enough to argue with Pat! LOL 

However, I do find it a little hard to believe that Chris Davis would be POTY based primarily on the regular season.  Yes, he did win conference player of the year in the WIAC, but I'm not sure how much that actually factored into the equation.  On the other hand, he did average something like 25 points a game in the tourney and was named Most Outstanding Player at the Final Four and, of course, his team won the National Championship. 

So, based on those facts, I would guess the All-American voting would be at least 50/50 between regular season and post season.  My same thoughts would go to Pat Miller winning Coach of the Year.  Just my thoughts.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I can tell you there were many candidates... but when it came down to making a decision... some of the candidates were eliminated because of what they and their team's did in the tourney. It left a couple of choices... and Davis, to me, was one that deserved to be recognized due to the fact I don't think UWW is in the championship game without him.

[Greek Tragedy]

I can tell you there were many candidates... but when it came down to making a decision... some of the candidates were eliminated because of what they and their team's did in the tourney. It left a couple of choices... and Davis, to me, was one that deserved to be recognized due to the fact I don't think UWW is in the championship game without him.

This would make me think that the original list came from the regular season and the "final list" came from the tourney.  What do you think the reg. season/post season ratio would be then? 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Depends on the player, the team, the circumstances, etc. There is no clear ratio... remember, we awarded Ben Strong the Player of the Year when Guilford lost in the first round of the NCAA Tournament at home against St. Mary's. Strong was CLEARLY the Player of the Year that year, so the tournament didn't play as big a factor... other years it plays a bigger factor.

Player... team... circumstances... etc.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

However, I do find it a little hard to believe that Chris Davis would be POTY based primarily on the regular season.  Yes, he did win conference player of the year in the WIAC, but I'm not sure how much that actually factored into the equation.  On the other hand, he did average something like 25 points a game in the tourney and was named Most Outstanding Player at the Final Four and, of course, his team won the National Championship. 

I don't see as many games as Pat or Dave, but going into the tournament, Davis was at the top of my list, along with Sharry.  Maybe it was because of the publicity, but I think both were quite deserving.

I do think that there weren't a ton of stand-outs this year, so tournament play likely had more to do with the decision this year than in other years.

After watching a lot of tournament games and the all-star game, I feel like there were a solid 5-8 guys who could have legitimately won POY.  That's pretty unusual for d3, at least in my decade of experience.

Coach of the Year, I feel, should have gone to Cabrini, but its tough to argue giving it to the guy who won.

[Hugenerd]

Now that the regular season is over, I think this time to revive this board.

Two candidates from MIT, that I think most people close to D3 basketball have heard of, Mitchell Kates and Will Tashman (MIT actually has four 1000 point scorers on their roster, unfortunately 2 of them have been hurt all year).

Mitch Kates - G, MIT
3rd Team 2012-2013 D3hoops.com Preseason All-American
4th Team 2011-2012 D3hoops.com All-American
1st Team All-NEWMAC 2012-2013

2012-2013 Season:
14.8 ppg, 47.3% FG, 36.9% 3FG, 83.0% FT
4.8 apg
3.4 rpg
2.5 spg

Career: Currently at 1616 points (4th on MIT career list), 541 assists (1st on MIT career list), 392 rebounds, and 254 steals (1st on MIT career list).  Only player in MIT history to compile over 500 assists or 250 steals.


Will Tashman - F, MIT
NEWMAC POY 2012-2013
1st Team All-NEWMAC 2012-2013
2012 Final Four All-Tourney Team

2012-2013 Season:
16.0 ppg, 58.1% FG, 75.0% FT
10.8 rpg
2.5 apg

Averaged 21.5 ppg and 15.0 rpg the last 4 games of the season.

Career: Currently at 1391 points (10th on MIT career list), 1014 rebounds (1st on MIT career list), 266 assists, and 111 steals.  Only player in MIT history to reach the 1000/1000 club.  He has never received All-American recognition, but he has shut down several during his career (eg, Farmingdale State last year in the tourney).  He has to be one of the top 2-3 PFs in the country, if not the best.

[nescac1]

The elite teams seem to be unusually balanced this year (few ridiculous stat lines on players on Top 25 teams, outside of DiBartolomeo), so this should be very challenging.  I think NESCAC is an exception in that regard, and features several strong candidates for all-American honors: Mayer and Epley from Williams, Kizell from Midd, Toomey and Workman from Amherst are all guys who warrant consideration, as all have put up super-impressive stat lines for top-ten teams.  And considering that all but Workman are juniors, I can see NESCAC easily having four first or second team pre-season all-Americans next year ...

[Charles]

The elite teams seem to be unusually balanced this year (few ridiculous stat lines on players on Top 25 teams, outside of DiBartolomeo), so this should be very challenging.  I think NESCAC is an exception in that regard, and features several strong candidates for all-American honors: Mayer and Epley from Williams, Kizell from Midd, Toomey and Workman from Amherst are all guys who warrant consideration, as all have put up super-impressive stat lines for top-ten teams.  And considering that all but Workman are juniors, I can see NESCAC easily having four first or second team pre-season all-Americans next year ...

Let's just see how they do in the tournament. Shooting sleeves and flopping against rugged teams from the ODAC, WIAC, and HCAC to name a few could have some input to the AA pre-annointment. 

[magicman]

Jake Simmons from Buffalo State surpassed 2000 points this year for his career. Certainly should be on D3hoops list of All Americans somewhere.

Here is a television story that the NBC Buffalo TV affiliate just aired concerning Jake's life story. Quite a story about an amazing young man. 
http://www.wgrz.com/rss/article/202771/37/Rising-Son-The-Story-of-Jake-Simmons

[Gregory Sager]

That's a great story, Prestidigitator. Thanks for linking it.

[magicman]

That's a great story, Prestidigitator. Thanks for linking it.

Hard to have some dry eyes after watching that story. Glad you liked it, Greg.