All Americans

Smitty Oom · March 05, 2019, 06:09:22 PM

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 05, 2019, 07:06:05 AM
Nelson's St. Thomas is in the Sweet 16, did he pass Turell for ROTY now?

If he wasn't already a lock for the award already, I would assume he has to be now.

D3ball1845 · March 05, 2019, 07:21:11 PM

Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 05, 2019, 06:07:32 PM
Not saying I agree/disagree with the potential selection, but Jomard was an integral part of a MIT program that was a mainstay in the top 25 and had multiple NCAA tourney appearances during his 4 years. That counts for something as well, even though his stats may not match those of Coene.

I'm assuming they select based on this season's performance. Jomard averaged 17.8 and 4.8 and Coene averaged 26 and 9.5. For an all-star game, I think there is a pretty clear cut winner. Again, I'm obviously biased being an RWU fan but if you look at Coene's stats compared to the 7 other players nominated for fan voting it's almost laughable. Coene is in 3rd right now in voting and the two above him aren't within 10 ppg and 5 rpg of him. If the voting stays this way, I would like to think most could agree that Coene would be robbed of an all-star selection. Maybe the committee would consider him for an at-large selection at that point, but it seems as though those two spots will be reserved for two players on teams that get bounced from the second weeekend of the tournament.

Greek Tragedy · March 05, 2019, 07:58:03 PM

The All-Star game is for outgoing seniors only, I believe. So, it may be awarded for their entire collegiate career. I think it can be both about stats and accomplishments.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · March 06, 2019, 08:38:35 AM

I made a mistake - for some reason presuming Ryan Garver was a junior. He's a shoe-in for the West region over anyone else in the ARC.

Jomard won POY for the NEWMAC, generally considered the second best conference in the NE region. He's been an AA before. He's super talented. They really don't look at stats at all for these things. It's about how conferences recognize guys and, since its the coach's association, how coaches view the talents of these players. Coene certainly lags behind. Winning the POY over Echevarria is a big deal, but I don't think he'd be ahead of Jomard. Of course, Jomard might be interviewing with NASA that week, or something, and just not be able to go. We never really get the backstory for the selections. Coene has always been a volume scorer, but in terms of overall talent, he's been largely a non-factor until this year. I don't see any way he'd be ahead of Jomard; this is typically not a one-year recognition.

D3ball1845 · March 11, 2019, 11:58:54 AM

All-Star teams were just released. Looks like you were right with Jomard and Nichols getting the two nods for selections from the Northeast. Coene gets voted in by the fans and Echevarria gets the at-large nomination after losing in the Elite 8 to Swarthmore. Was really looking forward to seeing Nichols play in the Final 4, but it's great to see that the Northeast got the most all-star nominations for the game. Now that a majority of the NCAA Tournament has been completed, I'd probably want to revise my NE POY nomination and think it will now likely go to Echevarria, who played through two injuries in the tournament and was just a possession away from getting his team to the Final 4. I'm guessing we'll get confirmation of this in just a few hours with the All-Region Teams coming out today?

Smitty Oom · March 11, 2019, 12:46:37 PM

I was also curious about All-Region teams, I feel like they usually have come out by now.

I really love the All-Star game, excited for that! Would be fun to see a dunk contest, if not solely to see what Austin Butler could do!

All-Star Team Link

D3ball1845 · March 11, 2019, 12:54:20 PM

Smitty Oom, are you going out to Fort Wayne for Championship Weekend? I'm excited to see the All-Star game in person, but I'm trying to figure out how well it will be attended as it is directly prior to the Championship game. Likely going to risk buying general admission weekend passes when I get to Fort Wayne and show up to the All-Star game at about 3:30 when warm ups begin.

Smitty Oom · March 11, 2019, 12:56:20 PM

I am not going this year, but I have gone in the past. As much as I would like it to be a sell out crowd, you will for sure be able to get general admission tix, especially if you are there early enough for warmups of the All-Star game.

Greek Tragedy · March 11, 2019, 01:10:37 PM

If I remember correctly, which isn't a sure thing, the All-Star game isn't that well attended. But, it has been as early as 11:30ish or so when the championship game was at 3. Or 12:30 and 4, something like that. Ok, disregard my post...unless I'm right.

gordonmann · March 11, 2019, 01:24:07 PM

We just released our All-Region Award winners, which is the first step in the All-American process.

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2018-19/index

Congrats to all the winners!

D3ball1845 · March 11, 2019, 01:48:22 PM

Lol at Jake Ross making 1st Team over Coene. That's an absolute joke.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · March 11, 2019, 05:39:37 PM

Quote from: D3ball1845 on March 11, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
Smitty Oom, are you going out to Fort Wayne for Championship Weekend? I'm excited to see the All-Star game in person, but I'm trying to figure out how well it will be attended as it is directly prior to the Championship game. Likely going to risk buying general admission weekend passes when I get to Fort Wayne and show up to the All-Star game at about 3:30 when warm ups begin.

That arena is much larger than Salem, where we've been in the past, and there's never really been issues getting a good seat for the All-Star game. The big X-factor is how many local, hoops-crazy hoosiers will show up to watch.

sac · March 11, 2019, 06:16:15 PM

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2019, 05:39:37 PM
Quote from: D3ball1845 on March 11, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
Smitty Oom, are you going out to Fort Wayne for Championship Weekend? I'm excited to see the All-Star game in person, but I'm trying to figure out how well it will be attended as it is directly prior to the Championship game. Likely going to risk buying general admission weekend passes when I get to Fort Wayne and show up to the All-Star game at about 3:30 when warm ups begin.

That arena is much larger than Salem, where we've been in the past, and there's never really been issues getting a good seat for the All-Star game. The big X-factor is how many local, hoops-crazy hoosiers will show up to watch.

It is Semi-State weekend in Hoosier land for the high school boys. But no Ft. Wayne teams are alive.

Greek Tragedy · March 17, 2019, 01:21:39 AM

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2019

Edvinas Rupkus, Skidmore from the East and Dimitrius Underwood, Texas-Dallas from the South were both named Regional Player of Year, yet neither made the All-American list. That's definitely not a complaint, just an observation.

1st team - 2 Central, 2 West, 1 Northeast
2nd team - 2 Central, 1 West, 1 Northeast, 1 Great Lakes

Gregory Sager · March 17, 2019, 09:30:36 AM

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2019, 05:39:37 PM
Quote from: D3ball1845 on March 11, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
Smitty Oom, are you going out to Fort Wayne for Championship Weekend? I'm excited to see the All-Star game in person, but I'm trying to figure out how well it will be attended as it is directly prior to the Championship game. Likely going to risk buying general admission weekend passes when I get to Fort Wayne and show up to the All-Star game at about 3:30 when warm ups begin.

That arena is much larger than Salem, where we've been in the past, and there's never really been issues getting a good seat for the All-Star game. The big X-factor is how many local, hoops-crazy hoosiers will show up to watch.

It was pointed out by sac on the MIAA board that Final Four tix were $15 apiece, which is a rather steep price to pay for a casual fan who doesn't have a strong rooting interest in any of the four teams. That may have helped to keep the attendance down to 2,000 or so, when I think that a somewhat lower ticket price might've brought in a much better house.