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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: uaaaficionado on March 20, 2019, 01:25:59 PM
Aston Francis named a 2nd team all-american by the NABC. Does anyone else find this to be a complete sham? Unmatched statistical success throughout the regular season followed by leading his team to the final four. NABC loses a lot of credibility IMO. An absolute snub.

As far as I'm concerned, the NABC never had any credibility to lose in the first place.

Pat Coleman

They place eight players on the first team -- not that any coach could put eight players on the floor at once, mind you. And one has to be from each region, whether that region has 80 teams or 38.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 05, 2019, 12:40:53 PM
https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2020

They're here.  Let the savaging begin!

Surprised that Jack Davidson is on the fourth team. You'd think a reigning first-team AA as a sophomore would be higher.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: CollegeGolf18 on November 08, 2019, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 05, 2019, 12:40:53 PM
https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2020

They're here.  Let the savaging begin!

Surprised that Jack Davidson is on the fourth team. You'd think a reigning first-team AA as a sophomore would be higher.

The NABC had him first-team. We didn't have Davidson as an AA last season. Though he was a first-team All-Region selection and there was plenty of debate about it last March.

We don't structure our AA teams the same way the NABC does (one player from each region on each team equally eight and arguably some are higher than they should be as a result - all regions are equal?).

And with all due respect to the NABC, we aren't beholden to their selections. So they can put him on their first-team, but it doesn't change how we consider players.
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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 08, 2019, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: CollegeGolf18 on November 08, 2019, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 05, 2019, 12:40:53 PM
https://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2020

They're here.  Let the savaging begin!

Surprised that Jack Davidson is on the fourth team. You'd think a reigning first-team AA as a sophomore would be higher.

Ahhhh, I thought he was a d3hoops AA last year. Totally forgot that it was actually NABC -- thanks for the clarification.

The NABC had him first-team. We didn't have Davidson as an AA last season. Though he was a first-team All-Region selection and there was plenty of debate about it last March.

We don't structure our AA teams the same way the NABC does (one player from each region on each team equally eight and arguably some are higher than they should be as a result - all regions are equal?).

And with all due respect to the NABC, we aren't beholden to their selections. So they can put him on their first-team, but it doesn't change how we consider players.
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AndOne

I watched NWU take St. John's apart earlier this evening. Ranked #12 pre-season, SJU isn't exactly dog meat, and will likely be playing a pretty decent brand of basketball in the vast majority of it's games this year. And, speaking of pretty decent, NWU's Nate Schimonitz shot 50% in scoring 26 points, had 10 rebounds, and dished out 6 assists. This is nothing new to Schimonitz. In the last two seasons, he has averaged 16.5 and 17 PPG and was a key player in NWU's 2017-2018 National Championship. 
Based on his high level of past performance in the upper echelon of D3 competition over the past 2 years , it seems like Schimonitz could well have appeared on the current pre-season AA list.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: AndOne on November 08, 2019, 11:10:06 PM
I watched NWU take St. John's apart earlier this evening. Ranked #12 pre-season, SJU isn't exactly dog meat, and will likely be playing a pretty decent brand of basketball in the vast majority of it's games this year. And, speaking of pretty decent, NWU's Nate Schimonitz shot 50% in scoring 26 points, had 10 rebounds, and dished out 6 assists. This is nothing new to Schimonitz. In the last two seasons, he has averaged 16.5 and 17 PPG and was a key player in NWU's 2017-2018 National Championship. 
Based on his high level of past performance in the upper echelon of D3 competition over the past 2 years , it seems like Schimonitz could well have appeared on the current pre-season AA list.

Definitely true.  For me, I didn't see a full recovery last year, after the injury; if he keeps this up, though, certainly a strong candidate for the AA awards at the ends of the season.  Impressive performance tonight from him and the squad.
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Smitty Oom

In honor of D1 announcing their Naismith Player of the Year Finalists this week, I have decided to create a list that is equally as honorable to be mentioned on...

Smitty Oom's National Player of the Year Finalists

1. Jake Ross - Springfield - NEWMAC
2. Nate Schminonitz - Nebraska Wesleyan - ARC
3. Buzz Anthony - Randolph-Macon - ODAC
4. Nate West - LeTournaeu - ASC
5. Connor Rairdon - North Central (Ill.) - CCIW
6. Sam Jefferson - Colby - NESCAC
7. Jake Rhodde - Elmhurst - CCIW 
8. Carter Voelker - UW-Platteville - WIAC
9. Jacob Bates - Centre - SAA
10. Adam Fravert - UW- Oshkosh -WIAC
11. Gabriel Liefer - Yeshiva - Skyline
12. Jubie Alade - St. John's - MIAC
13. Connor Sepiel - Wittenberg - NCAC
14. Marcus Dempsey - Muskingum - OAC
15. Eric Demers - Gordon - CCC
16. Andrew Bruggink - Wisconsin Lutheran - NACC
17. Kevin Dennis - Morrisville St - NEAC
18. Brian Cameron - Wesley - AEC
19. Jack Nolan - Washu - UAA
20. Booker Coplin - Augsburg - MIAC

Somewhat in order, although I did not spend a lot of time doing that.

Would love to hear some players I missed (because I am sure I did).

thebear

Austin Grunder, SUNY Cortland, Soph (1st year with team) 21.4 ppg 15.2 rebs/gm (#2 in country). .532 FG%
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Quote from: thebear on February 06, 2020, 11:35:09 AM
Austin Grunder, SUNY Cortland, Soph (1st year with team) 21.4 ppg 15.2 rebs/gm (#2 in country). .532 FG%

Funny thing is the last edit I made to the list was to take Grunder out and put in Dennis, primarily due to Dennis' team having a better record and the likely NEAC rep for the NCAA tourney. You are right though, Grunder should definitely be in this conversation. Where was he last year?

He is having a better year than Jack Nolan, but I felt it was important to get a player from the UAA on this list. Nolan is scoring at a very efficient clip this year.

nescac1

That's a pretty rock-solid list.  The only New England guy who I can think of to potentially add is Heath Post.  I know he's overshadowed by Ross, but he's a damn good player in his own right (and the two of them really combine to carry that entire team).  17.4-10.5-2.4, 47/46/87 splits, plus 2.7 combined blocks/steals and only .6 TOPG. 

ronk

Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 06, 2020, 11:10:19 AM
In honor of D1 announcing their Naismith Player of the Year Finalists this week, I have decided to create a list that is equally as honorable to be mentioned on...

Smitty Oom's National Player of the Year Finalists

1. Jake Ross - Springfield - NEWMAC
2. Nate Schminonitz - Nebraska Wesleyan - ARC
3. Buzz Anthony - Randolph-Macon - ODAC
4. Nate West - LeTournaeu - ASC
5. Connor Rairdon - North Central (Ill.) - CCIW
6. Sam Jefferson - Colby - NESCAC
7. Jake Rhodde - Elmhurst - CCIW 
8. Carter Voelker - UW-Platteville - WIAC
9. Jacob Bates - Centre - SAA
10. Adam Fravert - UW- Oshkosh -WIAC
11. Gabriel Liefer - Yeshiva - Skyline
12. Jubie Alade - St. John's - MIAC
13. Connor Sepiel - Wittenberg - NCAC
14. Marcus Dempsey - Muskingum - OAC
15. Eric Demers - Gordon - CCC
16. Andrew Bruggink - Wisconsin Lutheran - NACC
17. Kevin Dennis - Morrisville St - NEAC
18. Brian Cameron - Wesley - AEC
19. Jack Nolan - Washu - UAA
20. Booker Coplin - Augsburg - MIAC

Somewhat in order, although I did not spend a lot of time doing that.

Would love to hear some players I missed (because I am sure I did).

Matt Mancuso - Scranton - LAND  17.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.9 spg. 1.9 bpg

SpringSt7

I'm sure there are plenty of others to add--such is the nature of D3 when you have guys putting up crazy numbers on teams with less success vs. more modest numbers on true contenders.

One name I'll toss out is Whitworth's Ben College: Averaging 23.4 points per game on 49-44-91 and some high volume attempts, 15 shots a game, 8 attempts from three.

Whitworth is 15-4 and with Whitman (slightly) down, they have a really good chance to finally return to the tournament.


thebear

Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 06, 2020, 11:39:55 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 06, 2020, 11:35:09 AM
Austin Grunder, SUNY Cortland, Soph (1st year with team) 21.4 ppg 15.2 rebs/gm (#2 in country). .532 FG%

Funny thing is the last edit I made to the list was to take Grunder out and put in Dennis, primarily due to Dennis' team having a better record and the likely NEAC rep for the NCAA tourney. You are right though, Grunder should definitely be in this conversation. Where was he last year?

He is having a better year than Jack Nolan, but I felt it was important to get a player from the UAA on this list. Nolan is scoring at a very efficient clip this year.


Morrisville is 11-8; Massey 232, Cortland is 12-7, Massey 104.  Matt Snyder has SUNYAC as the #19 conference, and NEAC as #39.

Grunder was a first team all NYS player in HS, has been at Cortland for two years before this year.  No idea why he didn't play before this.
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