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Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 06, 2020, 11:10:19 AM
Would love to hear some players I missed (because I am sure I did).
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I second Grunder over Dennis.  Also, Ben College should be in the Top 10, minimum.  He's one of the very best guards in the country.

Micah Elan at P-P might be another to consider.  Connor Delaney at JHU is very, very good.

You seem to be pretty heavy on scorers.

Also, is Alade even the best player on his team?  A lot of guys to consider from St. John's.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 06, 2020, 02:09:14 PM

I second Grunder over Dennis.  Also, Ben College should be in the Top 10, minimum.  He's one of the very best guards in the country.

Micah Elan at P-P might be another to consider.  Connor Delaney at JHU is very, very good.

You seem to be pretty heavy on scorers.

Also, is Alade even the best player on his team?  A lot of guys to consider from St. John's.

In my opinion, and I believe Smitty would concur, yes Alade is arguably the best player on the Johnnies team. He helps space the floor so the big men can score their points. Otherwise, teams would jam the paint and dare SJU to beat them from the outside. The Neb Wes - SJU game might of had a different outcome if Alade would have played that first game of the season.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 06, 2020, 02:09:14 PM

I second Grunder over Dennis.  Also, Ben College should be in the Top 10, minimum.  He's one of the very best guards in the country.

Micah Elan at P-P might be another to consider.  Connor Delaney at JHU is very, very good.

You seem to be pretty heavy on scorers.

Also, is Alade even the best player on his team?  A lot of guys to consider from St. John's.

I do think that Jubie is the best player on St. John's. In my eyes it's him or Walford but the shot making/creating ability and ball handling capability as well as defensive versatility puts him over the top. Not to mention the extremely ridiculous efficiency he has scoring right now.

I am heavy on scorers, but that's the name of the game. I definitely didn't need to include Dempsey and Demers, but scoring 30 points a game makes it hard for me to not include them. I wouldn't disagree with a list that excluded them for some of the players we have mentioned. Also,  I don't have the time to watch every game and break down how players affect the game in ways that don't translate to the box score, so that is definitely a possible weakness in my own list. 

Ben College's lack of rebounds and assists is what held him off my original list. Jack Nolan of WashU has similar numbers (granted not quite as great as Bens) and efficiency, but on a better team so I chose Nolan over College. With that being said. I think if I were to make an edit, I would probably include college over one of Dempsey or Demers.

Also, you guys have convinced me on Grunder over Dennis. Putting up similar scoring numbers and more rebounds in the SUNYAC is definitely more of a challenge than it would be in the NEAC.

Lastly, on Connor Delaney, I looked at his stats this morning to see if not including him was an oversight, and only 16 points on a 45/26/66 shooting line (4 3PT attempts from 3 per game) isn't going to cut it. Delaney is a great player (the 4.5 assists and 2:1 ast:to is very good), and JHU is a wonderful team,  but he doesn't deserve to be on this list this year.

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Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 06, 2020, 05:14:11 PM

Lastly, on Connor Delaney, I looked at his stats this morning to see if not including him was an oversight, and only 16 points on a 45/26/66 shooting line (4 3PT attempts from 3 per game) isn't going to cut it. Delaney is a great player (the 4.5 assists and 2:1 ast:to is very good), and JHU is a wonderful team,  but he doesn't deserve to be on this list this year.

You should watch a game or two.  JHU is only a great team (this year), because of Connor Delaney.  One of the fastest guys I've seen in D3 and the kind of PG any coach would want running the show.  I suspect he'll be the Mid-Atlantic POY and if he isn't, he should be.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 06, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 06, 2020, 05:14:11 PM

I suspect he'll be the Mid-Atlantic POY and if he isn't, he should be.

Conner is a great player and certainly deserves All-American attention.  Jared Wagner (York PA) is another lead guard in same region and "should be" in discussion for Mid-Atlantic POY, year older and with better numbers. Both are on two of the best teams in region. Wagner leads CAC in P/G and top 5 in country in Assists and Steals per game.

CD: 16.4 P/G, 4.8 A/G, 3.8 R/G, 1.8 ST/G
JW: 17.3 P/G, 7.5 A/G, 5.0 R/G, 3 ST/G

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Quote from: D3RetiredHooper on February 07, 2020, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 06, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
I suspect he'll be the Mid-Atlantic POY and if he isn't, he should be.

Conner is a great player and certainly deserves All-American attention.  Jared Wagner (York PA) is another lead guard in same region and "should be" in discussion for Mid-Atlantic POY, year older and with better numbers. Both are on two of the best teams in region. Wagner leads CAC in P/G and top 5 in country in Assists and Steals per game.

CD: 16.4 P/G, 4.8 A/G, 3.8 R/G, 1.8 ST/G
JW: 17.3 P/G, 7.5 A/G, 5.0 R/G 5.9 R/G, 3 ST/G

Yes Jared Wagner is having a great year! I did forget about him when making my original list. To add to those numbers above, he is currently much more efficient with shooting %s of 54.7/41.3/72.1. Yorkpa has had a lot of wonderful players come through in the past couple years. York is currently 17-5 with losses to only great teams (Marietta, Chris. Newport, Albertus Magnus, JHU and Roanoke (doesn't qualify as a great team, but oh well, it fits my narrative)). Funny enough, in the Spartans loss to the Bluejays, both PGs struggled to score, but it appears Wagner had a better floor game.

CD: 10pts (3-10, 2-6), 4reb, 2ast, 1stl, 5to
JW: 9pts (3-8, 2-4), 9reb, 8ast, 3stl, 3to

Anyways, as of right now I would lean Wagner for Mid-Atlantic POY, with Connor Delaney a fellow 1st teamer. Both great players and deserving of the awards they will receive this year. I will try my best to watch the Johns Hopkins game next Wednesday against the Garnet as it will be a great game, with a bonus of getting to see Delaney for the first time this year!

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I guess it makes sense to use numbers almost entirely, because even for All-Region voting, the panel often doesn't have a lot of other inputs to use.
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So it will still be a few weeks before the All-Region and All-Americans are released?

I'm thinking Jake Ross (Springfield) and Nate West (LeTourneau) could be front-runners for POTY? Nate Schimonitz carried NWU.
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All-Region is on track for next Tuesday, as it normally would be released.

Typically we would announce All-America on Saturday, at the championship site. But without the number of media at the championship site as an incentive to release it on a weekend, we will push it to the next week sometime, and our announcement may take a different form.
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I am not sure how Matthew Schner was left off the list but I guess there were good reasons.

Still...

15.5 points per game (18 points per game in conference), 7.4 rebounds per game, 3 assists per game on a team that had four players averaging in double figures and nearly had five.  On a team that averaged 86 points and 40 rebounds per game.

In addition...
37 steals, 19 blocks
53 percent / 47 percent / 82 percent
UAA co-championship