All Americans

[Gregory Sager]

Are you sure the clock applies post-transer?

I've always understood the rule to mean that the clock starts the first term that a student-athlete is enrolled full-time at an institution of higher learning, and that the clock does not stop unless there is a hardship waiver that's approved by the NCAA. In fact, it's transfers to whom I've seen this rule applied more often than not. The classic example that comes to my mind is Sneed Deaderick of North Park three years ago. He couldn't get a retroactive medical waiver for one of his two seasons at DePaul (where he was a walk-on basketball player; he sat out one year in between DePaul and NPU), so his clock ran out five years after he started there and prevented him from playing a third season for the Vikings.

[cardinalpride]

Are you sure the clock applies post-transer?

I've always understood the rule to mean that the clock starts the first term that a student-athlete is enrolled full-time at an institution of higher learning, and that the clock does not stop unless there is a hardship waiver that's approved by the NCAA. In fact, it's transfers to whom I've seen this rule applied more often than not. The classic example that comes to my mind is Sneed Deaderick of North Park three years ago. He couldn't get a retroactive medical waiver for one of his two seasons at DePaul (where he was a walk-on basketball player; he sat out one year in between DePaul and NPU), so his clock ran out five years after he started there and prevented him from playing a third season for the Vikings.

Mr. Sager, once again you are correct!

[Gregory Sager]

A 52-point game for Susquehanna's Josh Robinson against King's tells me that we were not sold a bill of goods about him.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Wow.  That might be the first time I've witnessed cryptic homerism that ended up panning out in the end.  Granted we're nowhere near the end, but 52 points in one game is good enough for me to know at least the guy has some idea about something.

[Ralph Turner]

Keep an eye on UT-Dallas' Sr. Shooting Guard, Martin Salinas.  Today, UTD beat Concordia-Austin 118-112 in 2OT.

Salinas' line was FG 15-25, 3FG 3-8, FT 5-6 for 38 points.

Salinas is averaging 26.6 ppg.  Mississippi College and Trinity fans will remember Salinas from the 2005 ASC Tourney (when Salinas scored 26 with 5 rebounds at Miss College to earn the Pool A) and the first round game at Trinity when Trinity held off the Comets who were led by Salinas' 19 points and 7 rebounds in the 72-66 win.

Unfortunately, UT-D had no scheduled games during the Tour de Tejas, so Pat Coleman couldn't see him first-hand!

[zonescantstopme]

Can a Player Like Mike Hoyt from mt st marys who was looked at as pre season all american still make all american at the end of the year if the team doesnt do well? what are the chances

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

If he plays well this year, he can make it on a team that doesn't do well.

[Spencer Beaty]

It is even harder to make it on the All american team if you play in a weak conference.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Hey, I'm not sure I'm ready to debate first team versus second team yet, but I'm wondering if there are players we can begin to spotlight for National Player of the Year?

It seem like Mike Hoyt is doing his absolute best to solidify his reputation, despite playing for a small school in a weaker conference.  He's been absolutely outstanding this year, scoring over 40 points seven times already and leading the nation in scoring.

He literally put the team on his back, scoring 45% of the team's points.  He's even hit more threes than either of the "system stars" at Grinnell and Redlands.

I wasn't sold on him to start the year, but he sure seems to be a top-notch guard.

[dblock]

Hey, I'm not sure I'm ready to debate first team versus second team yet, but I'm wondering if there are players we can begin to spotlight for National Player of the Year?

It seem like Mike Hoyt is doing his absolute best to solidify his reputation, despite playing for a small school in a weaker conference.  He's been absolutely outstanding this year, scoring over 40 points seven times already and leading the nation in scoring.

He literally put the team on his back, scoring 45% of the team's points.  He's even hit more threes than either of the "system stars" at Grinnell and Redlands.

I wasn't sold on him to start the year, but he sure seems to be a top-notch guard.

When NYU scrimmaged Mt.St Marys this year he was absolutely locked down. The guards for NYU played him tight so he couldnt get a shot off and when he drove he was in the trees with Jason Boone and Danny Falcon sending every shot he took. He must have taken over %60 of MSM's shots that scrimmage. He also had about 13 fouls throughout the scrimmage. He is talented but he can be stopped.

[Gregory Sager]

Hey, I'm not sure I'm ready to debate first team versus second team yet, but I'm wondering if there are players we can begin to spotlight for National Player of the Year?

It seem like Mike Hoyt is doing his absolute best to solidify his reputation, despite playing for a small school in a weaker conference.  He's been absolutely outstanding this year, scoring over 40 points seven times already and leading the nation in scoring.

He literally put the team on his back, scoring 45% of the team's points.  He's even hit more threes than either of the "system stars" at Grinnell and Redlands.

I wasn't sold on him to start the year, but he sure seems to be a top-notch guard.

When NYU scrimmaged Mt.St Marys this year he was absolutely locked down. The guards for NYU played him tight so he couldnt get a shot off and when he drove he was in the trees with Jason Boone and Danny Falcon sending every shot he took. He must have taken over %60 of MSM's shots that scrimmage. He also had about 13 fouls throughout the scrimmage. He is talented but he can be stopped.

Doesn't make a lick of a difference, since: a) All-American awards aren't handed out on the basis of scrimmage performances; and b) nobody cares about scrimmages once the season starts.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I posted it over on the NEWMAC board, but this is where I did my damage, so I figure I have to come back here to take my medicine.  Congrats to Ryan Cain on the Jostens; that's a big deal and well deserved.

Alright Pat, I might be stubborn, but I also like to think I have integrity.

I'm not sure Cain is a first teammer, but he's certainly better than I thought he was and deserves to be on one of the All-American teams this spring.  That was a much, much better call than I gave you credit for.

[MR. PAC]

Terrence Shawell of Alvernia have a shot at being preseason All American.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Terrence Shawell of Alvernia have a shot at being preseason All American.

I think we're still talking about post-season for this year.

[TeeDub]

I have to make my pitch for Amir Mazarei (University of Redlands)

Second in the nation in scoring
First in the nation in 3's made per game
Third in the nation in steals per game