All Americans

[Pat Coleman]

We have a preseason honorable mention, but Williams is there as our only Plattsburgh selectee.

There's a lot of questions, apparently, about who we actually selected and we have a link on the front page for All-Americans, but I'll repeat it here.

http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/allamericans.htm

[Pat Coleman]

I know he's good but with nearly 2,000 starting men's basketball players and only 25 all-american slots any one school is highly unlikely to get two.

I think that has happened though. Wasn't Bennet and Kaslow from UW-Stevens Point both 1st teamers?

For one out of 390 teams per year, it could be possible. But as I said, highly unlikely.

[LogShow]

I know he's good but with nearly 2,000 starting men's basketball players and only 25 all-american slots any one school is highly unlikely to get two.

I think that has happened though. Wasn't Bennet and Kaslow from UW-Stevens Point both 1st teamers?

Yes, in 2005.

In 2006,  Dauskas and Amelianovich from Illinois Wesleyan made it.

The common denominator is Final Four appearances by their respective teams.

An wouldn't you know it...Puget Sound had to face both those teams in the national tournament!  Point in the sweet 16 and IWU in the elite 8.  Why did the committee curse Puget Sound with those match-ups before the final four?  They should have meet in the final four  .

[Mr. Ypsi]

I know he's good but with nearly 2,000 starting men's basketball players and only 25 all-american slots any one school is highly unlikely to get two.

I think that has happened though. Wasn't Bennet and Kaslow from UW-Stevens Point both 1st teamers?

Yes, in 2005.

In 2006,  Dauskas and Amelianovich from Illinois Wesleyan made it.

The common denominator is Final Four appearances by their respective teams.

An wouldn't you know it...Puget Sound had to face both those teams in the national tournament!  Point in the sweet 16 and IWU in the elite 8.  Why did the committee curse Puget Sound with those match-ups before the final four?  They should have meet in the final four  .

I'm sure undefeated and #1-ranked Lawrence (who lost to IWU in the swweet 16 in 06) would share your opinion!

[LogShow]

I'm sure undefeated and #1-ranked Lawrence (who lost to IWU in the swweet 16 in 06) would share your opinion!

No kidding!  I was pulling for Larry U.  I think Puget Sound would have matched up much better against them.

[Ralph Turner]

I know he's good but with nearly 2,000 starting men's basketball players and only 25 all-american slots any one school is highly unlikely to get two.

I think that has happened though. Wasn't Bennet and Kaslow from UW-Stevens Point both 1st teamers?

Yes, in 2005.

In 2006,  Dauskas and Amelianovich from Illinois Wesleyan made it.

The common denominator is Final Four appearances by their respective teams.

An wouldn't you know it...Puget Sound had to face both those teams in the national tournament!  Point in the sweet 16 and IWU in the elite 8.  Why did the committee curse Puget Sound with those match-ups before the final four?  They should have meet in the final four  .

I'm sure undefeated and #1-ranked Lawrence (who lost to IWU in the Sweet 16 in 06) would share your opinion!

The Larrys lost in OT to UWSP at UPS in 2004 in the Elite 8.

[thebear]

Pre D-III Hoops, the undefeated Potsdam team in '85-86 had two NABC first-teamers, Brendan Mitchell (POY in '86-87) and Roosevelt Bullock (MVP of Final Four in '86.)  The sixth man on the '85-86 team was Steve Babiarz, who was a two-time first teamer in '87-88 & 88-89. 

The 80-81 championship team had 1st teamer Derrick Rowland, (now coaching in the CBA) and 2nd teamer Ed Jachim, who both made it in '79-80 as well, and Leroy Witherspoon who was POY in '82-83 & 83-84.  There are two teams with three first-teamers, just not in the same year.

Having seen Plattsburgh play, I think Gorham is their best, and most efficient player.  He rebounds, plays defense, shoots a high %, blocks shots, and is a great passer, who can handle the ball.  Reminds me a lot of Brendan Mitchell, but Gorham is more physical and less fluid in space.

If you're thinking two from the same team, I think Amherst has a pair this year, and U of Rochester's bigs both have to be considered.

One of my friends, who is a long-time D-I coach, has always said that if you have a top point guard who can score, and a big man who can catch, score, rebound, and pass, you have the makings of a good team.

[Pat Coleman]

Must be before the NABC changed its rules to take the position that there must be an 8-man first team and only one player from each region can be on it.

It's policies like that (and politics) that led the NABC to not name Devean George to its first team. George got the last laugh when the Lakers drafted him three months later.

[Cards7580]

"...One of my friends, who is a long-time D-I coach, has always said that if you have a top point guard who can score, and a big man who can catch, score, rebound, and pass, you have the makings of a good team...."

sounds like something a former All American Point guard from Potsdam would say

[LogShow]

and a big man who can catch, score, rebound, and pass, you have the makings of a good team

That is a complete big man...one I would love to have.  But a rare commodity in D3.  There are some that fall through the cracks though.

[Gregory Sager]

Must be before the NABC changed its rules to take the position that there must be an 8-man first team and only one player from each region can be on it.

The NABC switched over from the 5-5-5 All-American team to the 8-8 All-American team for the 1995-96 season.

The 1978-79 North Park championship team had Michael Harper on the NABC first team and Modzel Greer on the second team. The 1979-80 North Park championship team had Harper on the first team again and Greer on the second team again, with Michael Thomas (a 1980-81 first-teamer) joining Greer on the second team. As far as I can tell, that's the only time that a squad managed to place three players on the NABC All-American team.

[LogShow]

Sager, I am going to assume you went to North Park.  I was curious.  Have you been a life-long fan or just since you went there?

[Gregory Sager]

Sager, I am going to assume you went to North Park.  I was curious.  Have you been a life-long fan or just since you went there?

The 1979-80 season (the third leg of the national championship threepeat) was my freshman year at North Park. That's how I got hooked. I didn't grow up in the Chicago area, so I had never seen the Vikings before that season, and I was only vaguely familiar with the whole basketball vibe at North Park due to hearing about it from some older friends who went to school there.

The campus was absolutely nuts over the basketball team my freshman year, which, given how incredibly good the Vikings were, was no surprise. I was later able as an alumnus to see the Vikings win two more national championships.

[beachcv]

www.collegiatebasketballinvitational.com

Top Seniors within D-III are listed, along with those from D-II and the NAIA.....

[Pat Coleman]

There's already a CBI topic.