Empire 8

[reggieball22]

Clear = Idiot
GB = Intelligent

GB I really do enjoy your posts. Like thoroughly enjoy reading them. They are very well thought out, well put together and obviously intelligent. That being said, I do not feel that you should go unscathed with the whole madhawk incident. Now Madhawk is a bigger douchebag than clear, but you did lower yourself into a war of words with him GB, and in my opinion you have to eat your words in some form or another. Now why I think being banished from posting for life is a little too extreme (even that is what you said bro) I feel like something has to happen to bring that whole argument some closure....All that being said I dont think Hartwick will win more than 5 games in the Empire 8 in the next 3 years, and I will state my posting life on it. I dont care who they have, Fisher will reload, RIT and Utica will always be better because they have better coaches, and they will not consistently beat Alfred Naz Ithaca and Elmira on the road. I just dont see it happening. I know they have some nice young players, but think about it....how many times does it happen that Division 3 (and for some reason specifically Empire 8) players top out when they are freshmen and sophomores. It happens year in and year out whether it be the college life, girlfriend or whatever.....at the D3 level guys can be studs as young players and flatten out as they become upperclassmen. So this whole wait until all these young kids get older idea is not working for me. Just look at Nazareths super sophomore class that just produced an 8-17 record.....

Reggie lives.

[superman57]

I feel that the punishment for GB15 should just be to have the Hartwick logo as his icon for one month.  Other than that, Clear you are know offically GB15's bitch

[Jukebox Hero]

lol....you're such a big talker Steve........

But you're right.

[Jukebox Hero]

GB15 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clear.

How's that for a 100th post?

[fisheralum91]

Wow!
GB-chin chin!
Clear- you had your chance-
Now let the games begin!

[UCgrad45]

"Wait, "we get to play Ithaca." How many points have you scored in either game against the Bombers? How did you "beat up" on Ithaca in this second game? Do you think we don't have access to box scores, Clear? If you look at the stats, Ithaca led for more than 60% of that game. Utica made one run that put them over the top. "


Unfortunately for Ithaca, that one run lasted 25 minutes, and there was no looking back. You seem to have some sour grapes man.

To be fair, you were wrong on nearly every thing you have been "Arguing" with Clear about.

Ray Bryant's performance against Ithaca can only be described as total domination. He dropped 27, and was by far the best player on the court again. I havnt checked yet, but I wouldnt be surprised if he is once again player of the week.

You claimed he didnt show up for big games, especially those on the road. He did.

You claimed Utica cant win on the road. They did.

You claimed Utica cant win at Ithaca. They did.

I know clear sometimes presents his stuff with some extra passion, but his underlying message is quite often accurate.


"but why don't the Pioneers step up and go to Virginia for some early-season tournaments? Because they can't hack it, that's why."

And you can? Kind of faulty logic since Ithaca is 0-2 against Utica this year. It's a money issue. Us "ghetto" folk don't have the funds to take a lot of these trips. But as we learned this weekend, money doesnt make you a better team.


"Unlike you, I don't beat my chest when my squad is winning games and then run and hide like a little girl when my team is getting beat (aka whenever they play a good team"

You mean like a few pages back when you were talking smack as you listened on the radio to Ithaca with a lead, and instantly changed your tune to whining about "Utica fans" when Utica Dominated the last 25 minutes? You even went to making excuses "what about Utica beating Ithaca without Burton on Friday night? ". Did you forget to mention that Utica's starting center, and only true 5 man on the team did not play against Ithaca?




"First, see Superman's post about Utica playing against winning teams. "

We'd have 2 more quality wins if Ithaca was any good. I find it funny that you mention Hobart as one of our lambs, when they beat you. We beat oneonta soundly, Ithaca survived against them. How heated was that Green Mountain game you guys had? Did they have gas station coffee cups on their jersey? Speaking of middle of the road SUNYAC teams, Potsdam made Ithaca look like a JV team.

Schedule is not the reason for Ithaca's or Utica's record. Talent is.


"You live in Utica, NY. I live in a city where 80% of it's population was drunk by 5pm on both Saturday and Sunday this wee because it's almost Mardi Gras, it's 70 degrees pretty much every day, and a city whose claim to fame is something more than once being the AHL affiliate of the New Jersey Devils. "

This is the second time in 3 days you have insulted people in Utica in a pathetic and childish way. You dont see Utica fans on here talking about the Ithacaites walking around in Beret's, driving daddys car, drinking starbucks and pretending like anyone cares about them until they finally jump into the gourge because nobody understands how hard they have it in Ithaca.

By the way, you were dead wrong, and exaggerating in your Utica fans comment. First off, it happened maybe 3 times the entire game after a play made an Ithaca player or 2 look silly. Most of the people cheering for Utica there were either families of players, or the Ithaca football recruits who noticed Utica was much more fun to watch. "Normal fans" dont just sit there and clap. Bored fans do. A little bit of excitement from the fans might have made a decent Ithaca team that much better this year.


"I really cannot wait until next Sunday night when Clear comes in here and gives the fake "good game Fisher,"

At least you have conceeded that Ithaca will not be in the championship game. Kudos. See the fan comment above.

[fisheralum91]

Wow again.
As a native of New Hartford, the slaps on Utica sting a little, but in the grand scheme of things I think his venom is placed directly at clear.

[the bird man]

maybe Utica fans need to stop taking their frustration out on people on this board and just deal with the fact that they are not as good as they thought/said they were...

[col]

Don't you guys think Schultz and Dooley are a better claim to fame than being an AHL affiliate?

[fisheralum91]

Schultz and Dooley yes.
Matt's no.
Saranac yes.
Utica Club yes.

Saranac thursdays in the summer-YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

[JQV]

... You dont see Utica fans on here talking about the Ithacaites walking around in Beret's, driving daddys car, drinking starbucks and pretending like anyone cares about them until they finally jump into the gourge because nobody understands how hard they have it in Ithaca.
....

Wow, I can tell things got heated on here but should we really be making fun of people that commit suicide?

Not for nothing, those kids all go to Cornell anyway.

[dewcrew88]

For the past couple pages, this board has been a vicious game of "Can you top this?" Wow and double wow.
I agree with fisheralum91 that the shots on Utica hurt, despite the fact that a lot of it is true.
Kudos to UCgrad45 for sticking up for his team...

By the way, GB15, not trying to defend clear, but when he says "we", you know he's talking about the team as opposed to himself. I used to play on the Utica College football team, so when I talk about them, I say (for example)... We lost to Ithaca 37-0 in 2005, even though I was not on the team last year.
Ya know what I'm sayin'?

[fisheralum91]

Budcrew-
Always remember there is no I in team!

[hawks1323]

Booyah!!!!!!!!!!

Contrary to popular belief I am not going to rant and rave about Hartwick's loss to Ithaca over the weekend.

Here is a teaser of my post season wrap up:

I am going to rant and rave about the success the Hawks have had this season. Winning 10 games (maybe 11) is a HUGE step forward for the Hartwick Men's Basketball program. I think it is safe to say that the Hawks are one of the most improved D3 teams in the nation. What makes this rapid improvement all the more sweeter is the relative age and experience of the Hawks on the roster. The majority of the roster spots went to freshmen or new transfer students. There is no doubt in my mind that Hartwick's has had the best freshmen in the league this year. This statement is supported by the shear number of rookie of the week canidates that have been awarded to the Hawks. As the pendulum swings back toward the Hawks favor, I expect Hartwick to be a very strong empire 8 power in the coming years.

More later...Expect an elaborate Hartwick post season wrap up by the end of this week.

Ciao for now!

[the bird man]

Moving on...

anyone have predictions on this weekends E8 tourny, anyone think that Fisher will not win? What does everyone think will happen if Fisher gets upset on friday and saturday?
What are the chances of Fisher getting an at large bid if they do lose a game?

Just wondering what everyone thinks. I think the E8 tourny is a much better topic than recent conversations.