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[rjcarter8]

I agree with FisherAlum's rankings. Hartwick is definitely worthy of a 7th place ranking, seeing as they beat Elmira both times they played. That being said, the hawks are definitely not to be ranked ahead of Alfred, which beat Hartwick both times this season. Saw IC play and they are about fourth, while Fisher, Utica and RIT should be the top three. As for Alfred and Naz, does it really matter. Yeah Naz beat Fisher, but neither team seemed to play up to their talents this season.

[superman57]

If you look at what I wrote before the post it was basing off how the teams played against fisher, which is the only time I have seen all the teams play

[rjcarter8]

I understand what you were saying superman, I was merely giving my opinion of how others ranked the teams. I certainly didn't mean any ill will toward you.

[the bird man]

Brilliant ranking system col...simply awesome

[AUPepBand]

[li]Alfred - Swedish Fish: Great candy when fresh, like friday night, but there are too many issues.  Gets stale too easily or will bind together if left above room temperature.[/li]

DESCRIPTION OF SNACK: Small Red Cherry-Flavored Gummi Fish.
SNACK LOOKS LIKE: Red fish bait.
SSI RATING (SNACK SATISFACTION INDEX - 1-10): 7
UPSIDE:
Classic snack. Sweet, chewy, fun to play with while eating (pull 'em, stretch 'em, smoosh 'em). Can be eaten 1 at a time or in multiple stacks on top of each other. The sky's the limit. Can also be used as a car finish (see last 4 ingredients).
DOWNSIDE:
Temporarily stick to your teeth. Jaw is tired when finished with bag (they're a workout).

1ST 4 INGREDIENTS:
Sugar
Corn Syrup
Modified Corn Starch
Artificial Flavors

LAST 4 INGREDIENTS:
Artificial Flavors
Mineral Oil
Carnuba Wax
Colored with FD&C Red #40

PACKAGING:
Yellow background, red type, blue splash graphics.

DO I RECOMMEND YOU TRY THIS YOURSELF? (YES/NO - EXPLAIN):
Yes, but watch out for your fillings.

WHICH SOUTH PARK CHARACTER WOULD LIKE IT BEST?:
Mrs. Cartman. It exercises her jaw. Nuff said.

HOW CAN THE PRODUCT BE IMPROVED:
Any suggestions?______________________________

[superman57]

New Manufactuer (ie get a new coach) and you should be just fine

and I would say that I like the meat refernce better

[the bird man]

the meat reference was very nice, but I kind of like the candy analogy...


Other than that, I checked out the Cortland/Buff state game tonight. I will say C-state is pretty good, but I would be interested to see how they play against a team that is well coached, or a team that shoots the ball well.

Buff State just kept letting Cortland drive and get easy layups, and I don't think I saw them take a 3 pointer until the last 10 minutes.

Would love to see a Fisher/Cortland NCAA game.

[clearconceit]

MadHawk missed you buddy but you didn't miss much of a game.  Great senior night, we are going to miss those guys.

Have to say that I hope Bryant wins POY, but perhaps Cocozziello is the most valuable player, the Hawks looked really bad without him tonight.

Funny thing occured tonight before the game, Hartwick's coach had a Utica shirt on as he spoke to Coach Goodemote moments before the game.  It was about the last time he laughed all night.

Looking forward to the weekend good luck to all! 

[UCgrad45]

Utica gets it's 20th win for the first time in school history, and Willie Lucas scores his 1,000th career point. Justin Cichon is now just 7 points shy of 1,500.

[JQV]

Looking at everyone's rankings I can't help but notice that, with some minor variations, the league has looked almost exactly the same for the last 7-8 years.  It really seems to break into four groups.

1. Fisher/RIT: Generally the strongest rosters from 1-12.  Other teams have better players on occassions but never the depth.

2. Utica/IC/Naz:  Each of these teams had a club that was in the top group for at least a year.  But consistently in the middle of the pack.

3. Alfred: Had some great talent about 5 years ago (Downing/Docteur/guy that wore Cow Suit and heckled me) but unnoteworthy since. PS-Cow suit guy actually made me laugh, at myself, during a game.  He was the funniest heckler of all time.

4. Hartwick/Elmira: Sometimes move up to the Alfred group but, generally good for 2 wins for every other conference team.

I know there may be some disagreement on the board.  Perhaps some will think a team or two should be a spot higher or lower.  Aside from that, why does the league always break out this way? Is it recruiting?  coaching? (which I don't think has changed in that time period) or just general dedication to men's hoops in the respective athletic departments?

I have my own theories but I am curious to hear what you guys think first since I generally just follow IC.

[dewcrew88]

Does anyone know if/where people can listen to the E8 tournament at Fisher?
I don't know if Utica will have their team of play by play guys go, does Fisher have a Web site for a radio station that will have the Ithaca-Utica game on Friday?

[gobombers15]

Ithaca knocks off Elmira, 76-59. The Bombers closed the game on a 30-13 run to take it. Believe me, I was worried that it was 46-46 in the 2nd half until I realized the only starter that played regular minutes was Bellis (34 mins). Other than that, the IC starters played 26, 22, 19, and 12, respectively. Those are all below each player's averages. Good to see Dom Scanlon coming on strong over the last two games, as he led the Bombers with 18 and fellow reserve Sean Stahn chipped in 10.

Mullins rested Burton and the starters because they've already locked up the 3-seed and there was no reason to play them. The key to the Utica game will be for IC to get scoring from places it doesn't usually get it (Stahn, Scanlon). If they can, they have a good shot.

[bamm]

Moving towards Friday's RIT/Fisher matchup, did you know that --

Over the last four seasons, RIT and Fisher have played 12 times (counting this Friday).

In that span, RIT has gone 69-38, but only 2-9 against Fisher (the only other E8 team with more than one win against them during that time is Naz (2) ). 

In that span, Mike McGee has taken approximately seven thousand wide open threes in games against RIT.

OK, obviously that last one is a joke.  But seriously, if RIT is to have any chance in this game someone is going to have to remember that McGee occasionally hits an open jumper.  It's not like he's been one of the best shooters in the league for the last few years or anything.  **sarcasm

Additionally, RIT will have to shoot extremely well (I think they have shot around 12 percent in Fisher's gym in the last few meetings).  Again, exaggeration, but that's what it's felt like. 

[JQV]

Does anyone know if/where people can listen to the E8 tournament at Fisher?
I don't know if Utica will have their team of play by play guys go, does Fisher have a Web site for a radio station that will have the Ithaca-Utica game on Friday?

I know Ithaca's radio station is covering the IC-UC game.  I am sure there will be a link up on bombers.ithaca.edu

[superman57]

and wysl.com has the any game that fisher plays hogtied down