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clearconceit · December 08, 2005, 01:25:16 PM

I think all those reasons are valid. But I think the biggest reason is because they are very few D-2 schools in the midwest so kids either get a D-1 scholarship or they play D-3. Hence these teams are loaded. I mean Wisc. Stevens Point had atleast 4 guys who would have been stars at Lemoyne up in Syracuse.
I think that is the biggest reason. Around the East coast we have many D-2 schools that take up the better talent after D-1's are through with their pickens.

Just a thought!

fisheralum91 · December 08, 2005, 02:15:20 PM

Clear C has a point.
The number of d2 schools does make a difference.
Also to piggyback on that thought look at the number of d1 schools.
It is a trickle down effect.
The more the draw the less quality.

bamm · December 08, 2005, 02:55:43 PM

After a down year, it seems the LL has a couple solid teams. Union has wins over Utica and Williams (@ Williams) and Hamilton is 6-0 already (the competition has been weak, though).

gobombers15 · December 08, 2005, 04:36:33 PM

Bamm, it will be a two dog race in the LL between the aforementioned Hamilton and Union. True that Hamilton has yet to play anyone of note, but the margins of victory are pretty convincing so it seems like the Conts are back to their old ways. Union looks very good, like you said, and took out Williams in Massachusetts.

And, Bamm, I saw your NFL picks for last week...I sure hope you didn't bet Baltimore -9. When I saw that, I shuttered. I basically did an Irish jig when I saw a Kyle Boller-quarterbacked team was giving 9 points to anyone.

bamm · December 08, 2005, 04:45:40 PM

I didn't pick them at -9. I picked them at -8.

No biggy, no money on the line. As much as the Ravens can't score, I was not prepared to bet on the Texans after the debacle in Houston the week before (Rams comeback).

Back to basketball, I think Utica plays Hamilton relatively soon. Lucky them, scheduling the two good teams in the LL.

gobombers15 · December 08, 2005, 05:29:29 PM

Good, I was worried for you, bud. If I were still gambling, I'd have made a small fortune on that game between betting it straight up and teasing it with every other game in the NFL.

gobombers15 · December 08, 2005, 09:51:34 PM

Hartwick over Bard, 53-41. I wonder if anyone in the crowd fell asleep for this one?

fisheralum91 · December 09, 2005, 08:22:51 AM

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unbearable · December 09, 2005, 08:30:32 AM

Then again, the possibility of Respect the Hawks and Howard "Raptormania" Megdal sitting next to each other might cause the world to be knocked off its axis from so much unwarranted hype concentrated in the same place.

HawkEmpire · December 09, 2005, 11:02:30 AM

First off, I am new to this board.

I am a Oneonta, NY resident. I have been following Hartwick Basketball for years. The past 5 years have been extremely tough for the program and the fan base. Fortunately, Hartwick this season is looking much better than in previous seasons. I respect Head Coach, Paul Culp tremendously. He has come in at a very tough time for athletics at Hartwick and have managed to begin to rebuild the program. With his two recruting classses, he has brought in some talent into the program. There is only one player (Senior John Montana) that is still on the team that Paul inherited from the old program. The biggest challenge Paul Culp and his coaching staff has is forming the talent. The future of Hartwick Basketball has arrived at Hartwick, but will take a year or so to develop. Between now and then I think Hartwick has a decent chance of wining a fair amount of games this season. However, the fun doesn't begin for another year or so until these players fully develop.

I am looking forward to watching an improving (finally) basketball squad. Hartwick might be a major player in the E8 come a year or so.

bamm · December 09, 2005, 11:04:17 AM

My biased predictions for the Weekend's Games at RIT:

Wilkes - 64
Oswego - 70

York - 60
RIT - 76

Oswego - 70
RIT - 73

Number of Drew Martin bench celebrations that involve a dance move -- 3. (Comon, Drew)

superman57 · December 09, 2005, 11:32:15 AM

Anyone getting the feeling that Hawkempire is pulling a JoshReed from last year

fisheralum91 · December 09, 2005, 11:33:40 AM

I smell a rat!

gobombers15 · December 09, 2005, 11:52:47 AM

E8 games on the slate for this weekend:

Friday

Potsdam at Alfred
St.Lawrence at Ithaca
York(NY) at RIT
St.John Fisher at Geneseo

Saturday

St.Lawrence at Alfred
Potsdam at Ithaca
Oswego/Wilkes at RIT
Oneonta St at Hartwick
Naz at SUNY-Old Westbury
SUNYIT at Utica

Sunday
Fitchburg St/St.Joseph's(L.I.) at Hartwick

In other games last night, Utica thumped Cazenovia, 101-70. Kafele Fleming led a balanced attack for the Pioneers with 17 points. Utica had five players scoring between 11 and 17 points. Justin Cichon scored 13 and Willie Lucas added 13 of his own off the bench.

I'm not sure if HawkEmpire is RTH or not. He seems to have a better handle on the English language than RTH. That is, of course, unless he spent an hour editing his post. The one thing that smells fishy is that RTH wasn't on here singing the praises of Hartwick after one of their last wins of the season.

Caz Bombers · December 09, 2005, 12:01:56 PM

I guess it's not impossible that there might be 2 Hartwick fans in the universe. Highly improbable, yes, but impossible, no

The optimism from the fans of our league's most downtrodden member (well, except for Elmira, but there's really no evidence that EC even realizes it has an athletics department, let alone gives a crap about its performance) is nice, but I'm taking an "I'll believe it when I see it" approach to Hartwick's alleged resurgence.