Empire 8

[The Observation Deck]

That doesn't bash you personally, just references your comment.

I think we all can see the difference between a post like that and one where you simply name-call like a sixth-grader.

[superman57]

I say we send each party to the corner and take away their afternoon snack.  On the recruiting never count out FIsher, if they do one thing really well, it's recruiting, which is why basketball will always be a threat

[tigerfan2]

I certainly wasn't counting out fisher, just commenting on the news reported in the D & C. Granted, the information provided is only on the first team AGR. There are plenty of other quality players in Section V alone that aren't on that first team. So many guys from all the E8 schools come from outside the area anyway, so it's really not a great indicater of recruiting, just a quick update.

I understand Kornaker and staff were in Glens Falls for the championship weekend so I'm sure they were recruiting some of the kids there pretty hard.
They'll have to do a good job recruiting this year to replace all the talent and experience they are losing in the backcourt this year.

[assassin]

On the topic of AGR, opposing E8ers had better hope that AGR POY Cory McCadam doesn't decide to attend Naz and team up with his brother Ryan.  The kid is great and would definitely be a major impact player in the conference right away.  With him, Ryan, and Canori in the backcourt, they would have THE best backcourt in the conference.  And you definitely can't count Fisher out, as far as reccruiting is concerned because every single year they over-recruit.  Any kid is going to want to come to your school when you tell them they're going to come in and start right away.  False promises seems to be a major component of their recruiting package.  How about we try the honest approach of a coach like McVean, Neer, or Daley.  And I can't wait for all those Fisher fanatics to chime in and call me a hater because of all of their recent success.  I'm not taking anything away from what they've done on the court...it's been remarkable.  All I'm saying is that is starting to become more of a known widespread fact that they over-recruit. 

[gobombers15]

Too much of a good thing is not a bad thing.

[reggieball22]

Its Division 3, its impossible to OVER-RECRUIT. There are no scholarships available, so until the kid shows up on campus the first day of school you never really know if he is coming. Also there are other factors that fall into Division 3 basketball that you will not find at a D-1 or 2 school because their scholarship essentially controls their admission to the school. So if a kid at a D3 school decides he wants to focus his time on banging his girlfriend or getting bombed 4 nights a week their isnt much the team can do about it academically because the kid is paying his own way. If I am a division 3 coach Im recruiting about 40 kids because you never ever know at the Division 3 level its not like these kids are signing letters of intents.

[assassin]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with recruiting a high number of players to come into your program, and your point about D3 players not being mandated to a scholarship is one well taken.  But the process needs to be an honest one.  There is a BIG difference between telling kids that you'll have an opportunity to compete for playing time or a starting position, as opposed to promising them one to get them to come to your school.

[assassin]

Come on Reggie, you should what goes on there, you played against them everyyear while at RIT.  You can't tell me that you don't know what I'm talking about.

[tigerfan2]

I don't see the problem with recruiting a lot of kids, that happens everywhere, its the story they get in the recruiting process. I think it's pretty safe to say that most kids, at least locally, know that Fisher recruits a ton of players.
The problem comes in when a program over recruits and then too many of the players they talked to show up on campus. If you're cutting incoming recruits on a consistent basis, word gets around. I know of a couple of recruits in the past couple years who have been recruited by Fisher but decided to go elsewhere because of this.

[superman57]

First off, yes Fisher over recruits, every single d3 school over recruits, it just happens that a) Fisher is a good enough of a school and has a great basketball program that all these recruits want to come and play. B) every student has a chance to start, that's not a lie, Fisher gives the starting line up to best players.

[reggieball22]

and most importantly......

c.) anybody can get into Fisher academically if they can bounce a basketball or run a football.

[FisherDynasty]

Going to have to disagree on that one Tiger...

[FisherDynasty]

Sorry about the mistype, I meant Reggie...


Does anyone have any inside info on incoming recruits Within the E8 next year?

[tigerfan2]

Two words: Carl Jefferson

That pretty much sums up the academics situation Reggie was referring to.

[assassin]

What was his 1 semester GPA again??  Oh thats right...it was a 0.0!!!  You actually have to try pretty hard to get that kind of GPA.