Empire 8

[sjfcards]

I also see that UC took care of Hartwick...looks like it wasn't all that tough.

Also I see RIT let down and loss to AU?? How does that work.

[FisherDynasty]

Just saw the Fisher vs Naz game.  Two thoughts, this years fishers team is not very fun to watch, second they find ways to win, and third they are still the favorites in my opinion to win this league.  Idk how i would feel to be a Naz player right now, they gave Fisher everything they had playing the best they could play in the first half only to be tied, haha.  Second half they came back down to reality and Fisher started to dominate.  That being said huge two road wins for Fisher, always tough to go 2-0 in that tandem season in and season out.  Lookin good goin into the Chase.

[e8bballfan]

just got back from taking in that fisher game @ naz...

-mcsweeny? hmmm 2-12 with one of those buckets being a dunk with 1 minute left... just not playing well at all i guess...

-fisher hit some big 3's and got shots whenever they needed them. meanwhile naz could never get a bucket when they needed one..

-looks like canori FINALLY plays well...goes for 30...also saw him walking around after the game with a big smile on his face as if naz just handled fisher, interesting...meanwhile older mcadams and other naz players looking quiiite pissed off at the loss...

-...wasn't i just at naz's gym? not the manning napier varsity gymnasium? game called REALLY tight for naz, fishers defenders got away with  shoving C. mcadams in the lane all day, naz didnt get any calls that fisher got thats for sure...made C mcadams look human and like a freshman...speaking of officiating- hmm so double t's called?? smith from naz gets in a jump ball with beigel, who then gets in smiths face and from where i was it looked like he said 'WEIGHT ROOM' like a meathead...come on justin, especially since you played well tody dont do anything stupid like that...

-once again, those naz kids go up big, lose it as newman ties it at the half with his layup off a naz turnover, that was a huuuuuuge turnaround..

-overall, big win for fisher...they were down early but came back and took care of business. it's a shame this rivalry game has to be played at one of these 2 schools while 1 is on break so the student body cant be out in full effect for whichever team. could've helped naz a bit today...


now to the CHASE, maybe we'll see these 2 teams meet again

[gobombers15]

This team is finishing in the top 4.  They have a couple of good juniors who came in from CC's (Gethers, Leslie), and as another poster stated, a 6'6" freshman shooter (Young) who is going to present defensive problems for some teams. 

Fisher/RIT/Utica are getting into the tournament.  Everyone else will be fighting it out for the last spot.

Well, 0-2 in the conference right now with both losses being at home. The Fisher loss is almost expected, but the Alfred one may hurt at the end of the season when there is likely to be a logjam after Utica and Fisher. Seems that Alfred's tough early schedule had them prepared to start the conference season.

Predicted Utica to beat Hartwick 70-54 and almost had my first exact hit as the Pioneers upend the Hawks, 72-54. I better not find out there was a garbage layup.

[UCgrad45]

This team is finishing in the top 4.  They have a couple of good juniors who came in from CC's (Gethers, Leslie), and as another poster stated, a 6'6" freshman shooter (Young) who is going to present defensive problems for some teams. 

Fisher/RIT/Utica are getting into the tournament.  Everyone else will be fighting it out for the last spot.

Well, 0-2 in the conference right now with both losses being at home. The Fisher loss is almost expected, but the Alfred one may hurt at the end of the season when there is likely to be a logjam after Utica and Fisher. Seems that Alfred's tough early schedule had them prepared to start the conference season.

Predicted Utica to beat Hartwick 70-54 and almost had my first exact hit as the Pioneers upend the Hawks, 72-54. I better not find out there was a garbage layup.

There was, but in your favor. Hartwick had conceeded with about 30 seonds left, then threw a full court pass and shot an uncontested layup with a second left as most players were already walking.

Coco lit it up in the second half, finished with 31. Utica played tough. At half time, between the two teams, only 1 player who dressed hadn't played.

[FisherDynasty]

E8bball Fan, In beigals defense, he did say something after he ripped the ball from smith but smith is the one who walked over and got in beigals face im surprised beigal didnt push him. 

Bamm, so much for you RIT automatically in the E8 tourny.  that alfred lost is going to haunt them, idk if they will be able to be naz, i think they will split with naz, lose to fisher again, Utica twice, and ithaca once, should be interesting.

[UCgrad45]

EDIT: Another monster night from Corey McAdam: 29 pts, 5 rebs, 9 assists, 6 steals. Right now, he has to be the favorite for E8 POY with Ray Bryant in and out of the lineup.

If/when Ray comes back, and he keeps having nights like the 26 point, 20 rebound game his last time out, there is no way the league gives it to a freshman over a senior. Last year Ray had the numbers to win it, but there was no way O'Brien wasn't going to get the nod his senior year.

[sjfcards]

Is Ray Bryant comming back?

Why is he out...is it grades? is it discipline oriented? or something else...

[FisherDynasty]

UCgrad, I agree, after seeing McAdam tonight, theres no way he is good enough yet to be the league MVP, I know he has been putting up some amazing worthy numbers and he is a good player, but not close to the best in the league yet.  He had about atleats 7 turnovers tonight against fisher and shot about 30%. yes it is just one game but he did not look anything like a league MVP and probably wont get it until his jr to sr year if he ever does.  However, For a freshmen I did like his game alot, he is very poise and under control, has good footwork, and makes things happen.

[UCgrad45]

UCgrad, I agree, after seeing McAdam tonight, theres no way he is good enough yet to be the league MVP, I know he has been putting up some amazing worthy numbers and he is a good player, but not close to the best in the league yet.  He had about atleats 7 turnovers tonight against fisher and shot about 30%. yes it is just one game but he did not look anything like a league MVP and probably wont get it until his jr to sr year if he ever does.  However, For a freshmen I did like his game alot, he is very poise and under control, has good footwork, and makes things happen.

I'll have to watch for him. He sounds like he can play, but you pay your dues in this league before you get awards. Thats why they have the freshman of the year.

[clearconceit]

Was at Utica game and it really wasn't close.  As for any POY awards I will be hard pressed to find someone better than Ray, but Coco put on a show today.  We had 3 guys on him at times and he still scored.  Thank god Hartwick doesn't have anyone else.

[UCgrad45]

Was at Utica game and it really wasn't close.  As for any POY awards I will be hard pressed to find someone better than Ray, but Coco put on a show today.  We had 3 guys on him at times and he still scored.  Thank god Hartwick doesn't have anyone else.

Hartwick was short handed as well. They were missing their second leading scorer (Carson, averages almost 17 a game).

On the other hand, after Doug Herring picked up that foul on the terrible call with about 11 minutes to go in the first, he was out the rest of the half.

[sjfcards]

Some thoughts on the weekend...

1)Fisher continues to prove to me that they are still the team to beat in the Empire 8. Especially the last 4 or 5 games they have got quality contributions from some of the guards and the bench...If Fisher can continue this they can/should win the league. no disrespect to Utica.
2)Utica took care of Hartwick...A team that they should beat, but Wick seems tobe a team that may jump up and beat some teams this year...A good win for UC.
3)RIT had a rough week. After a tight loss to U of R, to lose to Fisher at home is bad enough (two tight losses back to back), but to come out flat and lay an egg against Alfred really hurts them. I know it is the first weekend of conference play, but the loss at home to AU could come back to bite them.
4)Fisher's loss to Brockport is looking better and better, as well as their win against U of R.

Another good week of D III basketball...I took some heat this weekend for being so into Fisher basketball...but lets be serious, it is just fun to do. I know the board will back me up...

[bamm]

My first post of the season and I already look silly.  Tough sports weekend for me already (starting with the SU loss), if the Eagles lose tomorrow I might have to go into hibernation.

Anyway, I wasn't at the Tigers game today, but they obviously blew a game they should have won.

Regardless, I stand by my statement.  This team will win 8-10 games in conference.  Write it down.  All that matters is the standings at the end of the season.  This team has the players, and McVean always manages a spot in the postseaon tourney. 

[postup101]

Hartwick had another rough night without Cory Carson and Matt Simoneschi.

Cory Carson has been a HUGE factor in the success of Hartwick basketball so far this season.  Here are some interesting stats on Cory:

Games played:9
Total Minutes played: 283  (avg 31.4 minutes, 2nd on Team)

FG Percentage: 610 ( 3rd on Team)
3 Point Percentage: .357 (5th on Team)
FT Percentage: .735 (5 on Team)
Point per Game: 16.9 (2nd on Team)
Rebounds per Game: 6.3 (1st on Team)
Offensive Rebounds per Game: 1.3 (3rd on Team)
Defensive Rebounds per Game: 5.0 (1st on Team)

FG Attempts per Game 11.1 (2nd on Team)
FG Made per Game: 6.8 (2nd on Team)
3 Point Attempts per Game: 1.6 (3rd on Team)
3 Points Made per Game: 0.6 (3rd on Team)
Free Throw Attempts per Game: 3.8 (2nd on Team)
Free Throw Made per Game: 2.8 (2nd on Team)
Points Average per Game: 16.9 (2nd on Team)

Assist per Game: 3.9 (1st on Team) Note: Matt Simoneschi is 2nd with 3.2.

Steals per Game: 1.7 (1st on Team)
Blocked shots per Game: .7 (1st on Team)

Bottom Line:
Cory is a high value player for Hartwick not only for his individual stats but also his contribution to the stats for other Hartwick players.

Cory Carson and Jan Cocozziello could arguably be the best 1-2 punch in the E8 Conference.