Empire 8

[fisheralum91]

How are you respecting anybody by telling them how to act?

[AUPepBand]

I am glad to see that the Chase is overwhelming the conversations on this board. Unfortunately, I haven't read every post yet. Hopefully, the posts are positive and non vilifying.

Anyway, as a Hartwick fan I am getting excited for the Ithaca game tomorrow. I think the Hawks have the opportunity to make a statement tomorrow night in Ithaca. Last week, the opportunity was missed to knock off Utica due to the suspensions. Ithaca will be tough and physical, but I think the game is winnable for the Hawks.

The Carson/Cocozziello domination era in the Empire 8 will officially begin tomorrow night.

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BE Loud Be Proud Be Positive....Post Responsibly
-Post for YOUR team, not against opponents and their fans
-Don't get personal in your posts about other players, coaches, fans, or officials
-No intimidating, vilifying, harassing other posters or teams

These are all very good rules that the AU Pep Band, at Pep's insistence, abides by at AU football games. Pep's a proponent of said principles while posting on E8 Post Patterns and Posting Up.

Pep prefers to prevent protagonism by preaching no particular posting principles to Posting Up pals. Pretty petty. Perhaps posting as a proponent of prohibiting preaching of posting principles presents Pep as a Post Up protagonist. Positively. Pep prefers promoting positive posts positively. Plus K to all P-popping posters.

[tigerfan2]

RIT has held second half leads in several of those last 10 games vs. Fisher and at this point it has to be more mental than anything. I can recall a game @Fisher a couple years ago when RIT had as much as a 10 point lead before losing it in the last 10 minutes of the game. I'm actually glad I wasn't there because it's frustrating enough to read about it here, 10-24 from the FT line? That's just inexcusable.

If the second half execution doesn't improve going forward for RIT it's going to be a long conference season.

[gobombers15]

RIT has held second half leads in several of those last 10 games vs. Fisher and at this point it has to be more mental than anything. I can recall a game @Fisher a couple years ago when RIT had as much as a 10 point lead before losing it in the last 10 minutes of the game. I'm actually glad I wasn't there because it's frustrating enough to read about it here, 10-24 from the FT line? That's just inexcusable.

If the second half execution doesn't improve going forward for RIT it's going to be a long conference season.

And that wasn't even the worst FT shooting night in the nation last night! Tulane shot 10-25 from the line in their OT loss to Rice last night. That includes a Green Wave player missing two in the waning seconds that allowed the game to go to OT. Those had to be the two worst FT shooting performances in the nation last night.

[fisheralum91]

+k for pep.
Very well done!!

[FisherDynasty]

GoBombers,

McSweeney was out almost the whole first half and played limited minutes in the second half due to foul trouble.  Yes some of it can be attributed to bacon post moves but unlikely as most of the fouls were off guard penetration early on (this is when bacon did most of his damage). 

Predictions

UofR Vs Fisher  5.5  (Prove me wrong Fisher)
Bport Vs Geneseo 7.5 (should be a great test on how good this Bport team really is and if they can keep this up on a consistent basis)

[rjcarter8]

I'm going to lead this off by saying I'm not a Hartwick fan, just an upstate DIII hoops fan, but I have to agree with postup on this.

While he was misguided on his Coco/Carson being the best duo in the league — they might be in the top five (towards the bottom) — his posts are nowhere near the garbage MadHawk threw out last year.

I agree that Hartwick will still be made fun until they can beat someone respectable in the league, but the personal shots should cease until postup throws out way more absurd comments than his Coco/Carson one.

As for shots at me, I'm fine with that, having no allegiance to any E8 teams myself. I just think it's time to focus on the hoops not on the posters. I enjoy reading — and occasionally contributing to — the banter about the teams and their coaches, but the personal crap is a bit juvenile for my taste. Why don't we stick to disparaging the schools and not each other?

I apologize to the rest of the board for defending postup. My post was simply meant to focus on the teams, not the posters. But clearly, postup didn't realize that also meant he should stop antagonizing the other posters.

Pat was right when he said hazing of new posters should ease up, but postup's continuing to speak out about the antagonism is dumb. Now that he's taken things to a personal level -- including trying to bring forward guidelines for posting ?!?!? -- I think he's fair game and no longer qualifies for rookie status.

I agree with all of you who said he needs to grow up.

Postup, why couldn't you just leave well enough alone. By posting with thanks for those who came to your defense, you simply drew more attention to yourself. Maybe you really are MadHawk, he didn't think before he posted either.

[bamm]

FisherDynasty -- I'm going to have to go ahead and use the facts to prove your excuse ("played limited minutes in the second half due to foul trouble") for McSweeney completely false.

McSweeney finished with exactly 2 personal fouls. 

You might be confused, I guess.  Bacon picked up his 2nd foul with about 6 minutes left in the 1st, and he sat down.  And he picked up his third very early in the second and had to sit again.  So, yes, one of the players was limited by foul trouble in the second half, but it wasn't the one you mentioned.

[d3lifer]

My Predictions for this weekend in the Empire 8:

Friday-
Hartwick  at Ithaca---Ithaca by 9
Utica  at Elmira---Utica by 26

Saturday-
Hartwick  at Elmira---Hartwick by 16   
Utica  at Ithaca---Utica by 7

Not too many surprises this weekend.

[postup101]

How are you respecting anybody by telling them how to act?

Good Question

Posting on D3hoops.com is a privelege, not a right! In the Terms and Conditions Pat has clearly stated that harrassing and villifying other posters is strictly prohibited. Pat has intended for this board to be a vehicle for discussion for ALL Empire 8 teams/fans, not just the socially acceptable teams.

As a result of being villified, harrassed, and mocked in the past week or so I have no other choice but to call for affirmative action here on d3hoops. The life and blood of D3hoops.com lies in the hands of new fans. There is no evidence to me that there has been any significant new growth of d3hoops.com message boards.
I am here to grow d3hoops.com, not to see it fail.

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BE Loud Be Proud Be Positive....Post Responsibly
-Post for YOUR team, not against opponents and their fans
-Don't get personal in your posts about other players, coaches, fans, or officials
-No intimidating, vilifying, harassing other posters or teams

[FisherDynasty]

I've stayed out of the rant on post up either making fun, sticking up for or even responding but I can't take it anymore.  Post up stop being a wuss, everyone else stop explaining yourselfs, and ignore his rants unless there is basketball dialogue, if this keeps up im leaving the boards it is very annoying.

[sjfcards]

well...I took in the Fisher/RIT game last night and I have a few thoughts...

RIT is not as bad as their record would indicate...If their starting big men get into foul trouble then they are in trouble. Fisher played a bad first half (missed a lot of shots and did not rebound), but played much better in the 2nd to come back and win. I also thought that Fisher's guards played well last night. Mueller went for 20 and the freshman, Newman I think, was very impressive. I think that may be the combo at guard that Fisher can start to rely on down the stretch.

I like Hartwick over Elmira this weekend.
Utica over Elmira as well.
I will take Ithaca over Hartwick, and Utica this weekend as well.

[tigerfan2]

After the past few days of posts it seems like the best thing to do is for everyone to go about their business as if postup101 wasn't posting anything on the board.

Postup, you keep stating your "rules" but in 75% of your posts you are trying to give others an etiquette lesson.
What is the point of a board like this if there isn't any disagreement or debate? People here follow and root for different teams and as a result there will be some disagreement.


A great example of this from awhile back was the discussion about the all-time E8 team. Many people had different opinions and voiced them accordingly. In order to debate and discuss picks people would point out the negative aspects of some of the "nominees". If we went by your rules that wouldn't be allowed, and that would have been unfortunate because that was a great conversation.

Furthermore, what exactly are the "socially acceptable" teams? With the exception of Elmira, there are posters here that support every other team in the league yet you're the only one hear that has a problem of what is discussed.

You're brought this all upon yourself Postup. And by criticizing everyone else on their posting habits you're violating your own "rules" because you are harrassing other posters in doing so as well as getting personal with other fans.

[sjfcards]

Well stated Tigerfan...

I think the best thing is to just continue the conversation that this board has had long before postup was ever an issue.

So, on to basketball. Now that most of the out of conference schedule is over for most teams. How about some predictions/assesments of the league before the conference schedule gets fully rolling.

Here is how I have it:
1) Fisher (They have impressed me so far, especially finding a way to win so many close games that could beneficial)
2) Utica (Still a very solid team, but they have looked a little bit more human in the past few weeks...obviously ray bryant may help that)
3)Ithaca (usually a team pulling for 4th but I think they may be just a cut above this year)
4) Naz (starting to run out of options for the E8 tourny)
5) RIT (better than they have looked so far but not enough this year)
6) Hartwick (climbing out of the cellar for a year)
7) Alfred (big win against RIT on the road could get them to 6th)
8 ) Elmira (we all know the story)

Not much different than early in the season. That is my shot at it...

[Pat Coleman]

How are you respecting anybody by telling them how to act?

Good Question

Posting on D3hoops.com is a privelege, not a right! In the Terms and Conditions Pat has clearly stated that harrassing and villifying other posters is strictly prohibited. Pat has intended for this board to be a vehicle for discussion for ALL Empire 8 teams/fans, not just the socially acceptable teams.

As a result of being villified, harrassed, and mocked in the past week or so I have no other choice but to call for affirmative action here on d3hoops. The life and blood of D3hoops.com lies in the hands of new fans. There is no evidence to me that there has been any significant new growth of d3hoops.com message boards.
I am here to grow d3hoops.com, not to see it fail.

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BE Loud Be Proud Be Positive....Post Responsibly
-Post for YOUR team, not against opponents and their fans
-Don't get personal in your posts about other players, coaches, fans, or officials
-No intimidating, vilifying, harassing other posters or teams

That is nice and all, but I set the rules. Individual users do not have the authority to set additional rules above and beyond them.

I have no problem, for example, with someone posting about other teams. Hard to have a dialogue if you can only talk about one team.