Empire 8

[dewcrew88]

Too much talk about Hartwick. 
My opinion is they get 13 wins this year.
But the boys from Utica get 19!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go boys go!

have a great xmas everybody

13? How do you figure that, clear?

[gobombers15]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all the E8 posters, including RTH. I hope everyone has a good one. Should be a fun next two months.

Take care.

[fisheralum91]

So let's get some chat goin about the Chase.
How is UR this year?
They tired of being an afterthought in Roch?

[bamm]

I haven't seen UR play, but you can rest assured that they are a good squad.  They have 2 losses on the year, by one point to 8-1 Wittenburg (#3 in the d3hoops top 25) and by two to undefeated Carnegie Mellon (#23).

They still have Onyurika, who might be the biggest post player in the tourney, and Mike Goia is back after missing last year with a broken hand (I think).  They are solid.

[gobombers15]

I have to agree with Bamm. UR is always tough and this year is no different. The loss of Hauben obviously hurts, but Onyiruka is a stud and Neer always gets the most out of his club. The role players are what make that team go.

If Rother had played a full season up until now, I'd say he's right on par with Onyiruka. I saw him go toe-to-toe with former E8 POY Ty Schultz when Ty was a senior and Rother was a freshman or a soph. Rother is very athletic, tenacious in the post and finishes well around the hoop. I think he should be back by the Chase so we may see them go head-to-head in the tourney.

In other Chase-related news, to give you an idea about how all over the spectrum Roberts Wesleyan is, consider this: The other night, Brockport started the game on a 21-0 run(yes, you read that correctly). However, Roberts came back and actually TOOK THE LEAD in the first half. They still lost by 13 points, but that should give you some idea of how awful they can look at times, and how dangerous they are when they're on.

[gobombers15]

Also, since Fisher has only eight home games this year (seven of which are conference games), don't be surprised if you see some Chase games at their gym. Only Hobart would play at Fisher this year. I'd like to see some of the stronger teams in the region step-up and at least play some home-and-home's with Cards. I don't think 'Port and UR really want to play at Fisher, which is a shame.

[fisheralum91]

Would you want to play in that high school gym?
I mean really- I am an alum and avid fan but the "varsity gym" is a joke.
Cozy- my ass it is a pit and should have been one of the first priorities instead of building another dorm.

[bports]

Go bombers i usally agree with most of your posts but not your last post. Brockport goes on the road year after year and plays the BEST competition. They are going to play #10 york at york, they are going down to DC to play in #25 catholics tourney. In the last few years they have played the best on the road, at william patterson, at calvin, at NYU all of which were nationally ranked. They have played fisher for at least the last 5 years. This year fisher was scheduled to play at Bport but for some reason fishers athletic department called before the season and said they would not be able to play that game. Whitmore has never got a return home game with any of those schools i mentioed but he continues to schedule the BEST.  Whitmore realizes you tourney ready by playing the best not by playing cazenovia,keuka, medaille.

[fisheralum91]

wow bports,
Calm down!
Sheesh- it will all shake itself out at the chase!

[bports]

Brockport also only has 8 home games this year and 18 away from home. Brockport also played otterbein in ohio a few years ago after otterbein won a natl title. Also bport and fisher have played every year since 1998 until this year.

[bamm]

bports,

First of all, the tournaments don't help you if you lose every game.  You have to have a solid squad to start with.  Sometimes Brockport does, other times they don't. 

This argument gets thrown around by division one talking heads all the time.  Scheduling elite teams outside of league play helps them because of the at-large bids in their tournament and the factor that SOS plays into that. 

Brockport somehow got an at-large bid in 2004, despite losing every tough out-of-league game they scheduled (Otterbein, St. Thomas, Rochester).  The committee probably realized their mistake when Brockport got crushed by 28 against Williams in the NCAA's.  Tourney tested, huh?

By the way, that season St. Thomas was 11-15.  Brockport also played Clark (11-12) and Massachusett's College (1-22) that season.  They managed to win those two games.

[fisheralum91]

Waah waah.
God -pick yourself up bports.
There is no crying in posting!
Gimme a break!

[superman57]

First off, a new gym is nice but we need the new dorm.  Second off I can't blame teams for not wanting to come play at fisher.  It is a small gym and a very loud gym, also students being on the court cant help with teams wanting to come.  Brockport stop whining, you haven't heard Fisher Fans complaing about not playing at home much

[fisheralum91]

Superman,
I'm glad that you enjoy the games as much as I did, but honestly take a step back and think-my alma mater really does need a new facility.  Oh, and btw- since I was there you have added 3 dorms.

[bamm]

Whether or not a new gym gets built at Fisher has got to be a revenue driven decision.  Will a new basketball facility bring in a lot more money for the school than it takes to build it?  Probably not.  Certainly not as much as the dorm that gives them a ton of extra housing for students at 25 thousand a year (tuition + board).  And not as much as that new football facility that brings in the Buffalo Bills every summer and has attracted enough talent that the football team is decent again.

Now, if some rich alumnus wanted to donate some money...