Empire 8

gobombers15 · February 08, 2007, 07:52:37 PM

Um, guys, you all do realize that Alfred NEVER beats Ithaca at Ithaca, right? I mean, even when they had Docteur, Downey, et al, Ithaca would beat them pretty good in the Bulb. I'm just saying. Something about Ithaca makes Alfred play awful. I'd be surprised if it's under a six-point margin. IC just matches up well with them.

I understand it's a combination of wishful thinking (Fisher fans) and hatred for Ithaca (clear), but speak with your head, not your heart.

sjfcards · February 08, 2007, 09:13:59 PM

Quote from: gobombers15 on February 08, 2007, 07:52:37 PM
Um, guys, you all do realize that Alfred NEVER beats Ithaca at Ithaca, right? I mean, even when they had Docteur, Downey, et al, Ithaca would beat them pretty good in the Bulb. I'm just saying. Something about Ithaca makes Alfred play awful. I'd be surprised if it's under a six-point margin. IC just matches up well with them.

I understand it's a combination of wishful thinking (Fisher fans) and hatred for Ithaca (clear), but speak with your head, not your heart.

It is probably a lot of both...

That is why I am picking RIT over UC as well...Clear, UC over RIT by 15? not sure about that one..

superman57 · February 08, 2007, 11:58:41 PM

If you beat naz by 30 then I will change my name to wonderwoman...no way you beat naz by 30 or even 20

b4the3isme · February 09, 2007, 08:22:57 AM

gbomb- have to agree with you. These Fisher guys sometimes go overboard. I just can't see RIT going into Utica and winning as much as I would like to see that happen. Plus Ithaca seems to be playing well right now. Certainly well enough to take the 19 points superman is willing to give.

FisherDynasty · February 09, 2007, 08:25:52 AM

I think Naz is going to beat Utica, Naz is due for a good win and played them tough last game.

b4the3isme · February 09, 2007, 08:39:05 AM

So if we listen to FishDyn & the future wonderwomen (superman) Utica with one league loss by a deuce to Ithaca is going to get swept by RIT and Naz playing at home? My heart would love that but my head and all reasonable logic says NO WAY!!!!

AUPepBand · February 09, 2007, 09:28:17 AM

Quote from: gobombers15 on February 08, 2007, 07:52:37 PM
Um, guys, you all do realize that Alfred NEVER beats Ithaca at Ithaca, right? I mean, even when they had Docteur, Downey, et al, Ithaca would beat them pretty good in the Bulb. I'm just saying. Something about Ithaca makes Alfred play awful. I'd be surprised if it's under a six-point margin. IC just matches up well with them.

I understand it's a combination of wishful thinking (Fisher fans) and hatred for Ithaca (clear), but speak with your head, not your heart.

Alfred's motto....Fiat Lux, "Let there be light." Hoping here the Saxons light up the Bulb...just to keep things interesting. But first things first...Alfred 65, Elmira 54.

superman57 · February 09, 2007, 11:05:29 AM

No I said Utica was going to beat naz...I just think that RIT has been dominant on the road and will be able to sneak one by utica... and Yes I think Fisher will beat ithaca by double digits...and no there is no chance that anyone beats naz by 30....if you can't beat hartwicl and elmira by 30 than you can't beat a decent naz squad by 30

UCgrad45 · February 09, 2007, 11:22:54 AM

Quote from: Superman57 on February 09, 2007, 11:05:29 AM
No I said Utica was going to beat naz...I just think that RIT has been dominant on the road and will be able to sneak one by utica... and Yes I think Fisher will beat ithaca by double digits...and no there is no chance that anyone beats naz by 30....if you can't beat hartwicl and elmira by 30 than you can't beat a decent naz squad by 30

While I don't see Utica beating them by 30, I don't see them losing either. Utica has the target on their backs for the first time, and always get the best effort of the other team every game. They have still managed a 17-3 record despite this. They are both tough teams, but Utica is just more talented and salivating at the chance to host the tournament.

And does anyone really think they couldn't beat elmira and hartwick by 30? This isn't NCAA D-1 Football. Utica doesn't need and doesn't try to run up the score.

superman57 · February 09, 2007, 11:49:24 AM

I think anyone could beat Elmira by 30, but hartwick is decent and doesn't get blown out...either does naz and beating RIT by 15 is highly unlikely...GB15 don't makefun of peoples picks...it's opinions I feel that alfred is playing for their post season life and have been half way decent while they get Ithaca after fisher gets Ithaca...and I do think RIT can upset Utica

b4the3isme · February 09, 2007, 12:02:51 PM

I know Superman - your prediction was for an RIT win, FishDyn predicted the Naz win- I lumped you both together to obtain the ultimate LL wishful thinking ( and I must admit that I'm in that category), but logically unless Zeinfeld is hotter than a pistol I don't think RIT can pull it off. Bacon is extremely consistent but it is a tough task for him to face Ray Bryant and crew in Utica and carry the team. He'll probably get into early foul trouble which leads me back Zeinfeld must be smoking for an RIT win. That being said I'll root for RIT and Naz but I don't believe my prayers will be answered.

FisherDynasty · February 09, 2007, 12:05:03 PM

I'm with Superman, you shouldn't make fun of peoples pics, unless they are outrageous. Also, if your going to, atleast dont throw 2-3 peoples pics into one and say utica is predicted to get swept. Posters believe you utica will come out of this wkend with a loss either to RIT OR Naz. I think it will be Naz, Naz matches up very well with them and are better inside. We will see, like UCGrad said, Utica has the X's on their back, thus gets everyones best games, an upset is not that outrageous, especially when i took a 3 in the final 10 seconds to beat Naz the first time. We'll see just a prediction.

gobombers15 · February 09, 2007, 01:36:49 PM

Hold up. First of all, I've never said anything about anyone's picks that Utica will lose this weekend. So let's get that straight. Second, how am I "making fun" of anyone's picks? I'm just pointing out a relevant fact that Alfred always gets beat at Ithaca. That's just the way it usually goes. I didn't realize people are so sensitive in here. Making fun? You guys have been reading Postup's comments, I think.

superman57 · February 09, 2007, 01:41:29 PM

GB15 use that stat all you want but we had the same stat vs. RIT until RIT came and beat us...so while you can use stats some of time your not going to win every game against a team

gobombers15 · February 09, 2007, 02:20:14 PM

Quote from: Superman57 on February 09, 2007, 01:41:29 PM
GB15 use that stat all you want but we had the same stat vs. RIT until RIT came and beat us...so while you can use stats some of time your not going to win every game against a team

Did I once say that stats are a be-all, end-all? Never. I'm just pointing out a RELEVANT fact; that is, Alfred doesn't play well in Ithaca and, frankly, it's usually not even that close (sometimes, but not usually). There are always going to be exceptions, but I'm just pointing out what seems to be a trend. Stop being such a nitpicker.

I understand your heart wants Alfred to win because you're subconsciously still hanging onto that flimsy hope that Fisher will be able to catch Utica, Alfred will pass Ithaca, and Fisher will somehow be able to host the E8 tourney. I can already see it in your picks (see RIT beating Utica, Alfred over Ithaca). If that somehow happens, I'm sure that next week you'll have Ithaca getting swept by RIT and Naz, and Fisher beating Utica. It's not gonna happen, buddy, might as well book your hotel room in Utica.