Empire 8

fisheralum91 · December 28, 2005, 03:06:56 PM

I'm writing the check right now.
We will of course have to name the new gym after me-
the fisheralum91 pavillion

ooo that does sound nice

Well after diggin in the pockets it seems we may have to wait for that gym!

bports · December 28, 2005, 04:40:51 PM

I did not mean to come in here and start any fights i was responding to a statement by go bombers that was far from the truth. He said bport didnt want to play fisher at fisher, when the truth is they have played fisher every year since at least 1998. Like i said they were scheduled to meet this year and fisher called it off just before the season. Both fisher and bport have had there share of really good teams in the recent past, and i would never put there program down. As for bport losing all those out of conf games wrong the beat william patterson, nyu, div2 lemoyne etc etc. As for 2004 losing by 28 at #1 williams in the ncaa tourney williams was a GREAT team. Remember they also beat a very good trinity team in the 2nd round of the ncaa tourney and finished the season 15-1 in sunyacs that season so i refuse to apologize as to why they were in the tourney.

gobombers15 · December 28, 2005, 08:15:35 PM

Bports, be easy my man. I didn't mean any disrespect to your school or basketball program. I was just mentioning the fact that non-E8 Rochester teams (UR, Port) probably didn't want to play in Fisher's little gym. I said nothing about them ducking quality teams or the strength of their schedule otherwise. I know B'port usually takes on all comers and in no place did I mention that they avoid quality teams.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

Pat Coleman · December 28, 2005, 09:05:34 PM

Second time you mentioned NYU. When was NYU ranked?

bports · December 29, 2005, 08:36:18 AM

gobombers sorry about the misunderstanding, i enjoy reading you posts. Good luck on the season.

fisheralum91 · December 29, 2005, 09:16:12 AM

Well there ya see we can get along!

gobombers15 · December 29, 2005, 01:43:29 PM

Three games for E8 teams today at various locations and tournaments around the country:

Elmira vs Linfield

Luckily for Elmira, Linfield(1-7) isn't 1/100th as good at basketball as they are at football. At least Elmira was able to get out of CNY for the holidays and are enjoying the sunshine in Phoenix.

Nazareth at Otterbein

The Golden Flyers should be well-rested after a long layoff. This game is the 1st round of the Otterbein tournament. Otterbein is 3-6. If Naz wins, they'll likely play Ohio Wesleyan(6-3) in the final. If not, Thomas More(0-10) will likely be the opponent in the consolation game.

Alfred vs Denison

This is the first round game of the Case Western tournament. The Saxons men's hoops team follows the lead of their football team and heads to Cleveland Heights. Denison is just 2-8 and Alfred should be able to take them. A win likely means a date with a strong Case Western team. Case is in the same conference as UR.

fisheralum91 · December 29, 2005, 02:43:24 PM

Those look like duds!
At least the weather will be warmer for elmira!

the bird man · December 29, 2005, 07:41:38 PM

A new gym would be nice if it brings in additional revenue or not. A new facility could really help in a lot of ways, like recruiting. The gym would be great for the fans as well. Lets face it, not the best place to watch a game.
Students on the floor is something that may not be attractive for other teams, but I think it is also one of the reasons that fisher has such an avid fan base, and what makes it such a tough place to play.
I will say this, I would rather play in a gym like Fisher's, which always seems full and loud, than in a gym like Cortland's or some other state schools where even when they have a big crowd the place looks pretty empty.

Can't wait for the 2nd half of the season to start, and the Chase...Go Cards!!!

bamm · December 29, 2005, 09:29:14 PM

Not a banner night for the middle of the pack E8 squads as Alfred and Naz both go down in out-of-state tourneys. Elmira also lost.

clearconceit · December 29, 2005, 09:56:48 PM

I really think our league is very weak. I see it as a 2 horse race between us and SJF. That's why I think Hartwick can win some games - everybody else is just like them.... not very good.

Go Utica!!!!!!!

gobombers15 · December 29, 2005, 10:56:48 PM

Clear, it's definitely a weak league relative to the rest of the nation. That said, it's always been a weak league and Hartwick still only has one victory over the last two years. I'm conceding that they may be better than last year; I've said that since the beginning of the season. But where does that put them, honestly? One win? Maybe two? Besides Elmira, I think they'd be lucky to win one game against another conference team. But enough about the bottom of the conference.

I like Utica, but I think it's a stretch for us to say Utica is in Fisher's class right now. For Utica fans to make an "it's only us and Fisher" comment is more than a bit premature. I'm pretty sure RIT doesn't feel that way. I don't think Ithaca is going to run and hide from the Pioneers. Alfred will be confident they can beat Utica. I don't think Utica is going to blitz this conference, by any means.

Like I said, Utica is a good team but I'm definitely firmly entrenched in a "show me" mode with them. Until they prove they can be a consistent club on the road, I don't think they can be talking about winning the regular season conference title.

Good luck to all the E8 teams this week.

clearconceit · December 30, 2005, 12:11:50 AM

CMon man, we are better than you think. I feel like you are treating us like we are Hartwick or Elmira. But hey this is why we play the games. I feel very confident that this is our year. We have the best player and the best coach. Hey I am a fan!!!!!
Go Pioneers.

gobombers15 · December 30, 2005, 10:16:34 AM

Quote from: clearconceit on December 30, 2005, 12:11:50 AM
CMon man, we are better than you think. I feel like you are treating us like we are Hartwick or Elmira. But hey this is why we play the games. I feel very confident that this is our year. We have the best player and the best coach. Hey I am a fan!!!!!
Go Pioneers.

Clear, I absolutely believe Utica is a very good team and will be towards the top of the conference the entire season. I would never be foolish enough to put Utica on the same level as an Elmira or Hartwick. In my revised predictions, I think I had Utica finishing 2nd in the conference and going 10-4 in the league. I don't think that infers that I think Utica is not a very good team. With a larger NCAA tournament, that could put the Pioneers over the top, provided they still make a good showing in the E8 tourney.

What I am saying, though, is I need it proven to me that Utica can play more consistently on the road. I know you're a fan, but even you must admit that Utica's play away from their home gym has left much to be desired; a couple other Utica fans have even expressed such a sentiment. RIT just seems to have their number in Clark Gym. Fisher has everyone's number in Varsity Gym.

Also, being an Ithaca fan, Utica has looked terrible in their last four trips to The Bulb. The Pioneers have scored 39, 41, 40, and 53 points and were 0-4 in their last four trips to the South Hill. Since I don't have the time/energy/desire to go watch them play at home, I only have the opportunity to see them when they're at Ithaca or are playing against one of the Rochester teams, squads they've certainly struggled against in the past.

Cichon is definitely in the mix as one of the top players in the league and I think Utica has a pretty good coach. But, unfortunately, I don't see Fisher losing more than one or two games in the conference season. For Utica to overtake them, the Pioneers are going to have to be perfect at home(like Fisher surely will be) and develop some consistency on the road.

Only one week until the start of E8 play and, subsequently, Fisher @ Utica on opening night.

dewcrew88 · December 30, 2005, 10:28:36 AM

Quote from: gobombers15 on December 30, 2005, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: clearconceit on December 30, 2005, 12:11:50 AM
CMon man, we are better than you think. I feel like you are treating us like we are Hartwick or Elmira. But hey this is why we play the games. I feel very confident that this is our year. We have the best player and the best coach. Hey I am a fan!!!!!
Go Pioneers.

Clear, I absolutely believe Utica is a very good team and will be towards the top of the conference the entire season. I would never be foolish enough to put Utica on the same level as an Elmira or Hartwick. In my revised predictions, I think I had Utica finishing 2nd in the conference and going 10-4 in the league. I don't think that infers that I think Utica is not a very good team. With a larger NCAA tournament, that could put the Pioneers over the top, provided they still make a good showing in the E8 tourney.

What I am saying, though, is I need it proven to me that Utica can play more consistently on the road. I know you're a fan, but even you must admit that Utica's play away from their home gym has left much to be desired; a couple other Utica fans have even expressed such a sentiment. RIT just seems to have their number in Clark Gym. Fisher has everyone's number in Varsity Gym.

Also, being an Ithaca fan, Utica has looked terrible in their last four trips to The Bulb. The Pioneers have scored 39, 41, 40, and 53 points and were 0-4 in their last four trips to the South Hill. Since I don't have the time/energy/desire to go watch them play at home, I only have the opportunity to see them when they're at Ithaca or are playing against one of the Rochester teams, squads they've certainly struggled against in the past.

Cichon is definitely in the mix as one of the top players in the league and I think Utica has a pretty good coach. But, unfortunately, I don't see Fisher losing more than one or two games in the conference season. For Utica to overtake them, the Pioneers are going to have to be perfect at home(like Fisher surely will be) and develop some consistency on the road.

Only one week until the start of E8 play and, subsequently, Fisher @ Utica on opening night.

Look at the BOLD...

The Utica College gym is in the Harold T. Clark Athletic Center. Does RIT play in a Clark center too?