Empire 8

tigerfan2 · February 17, 2007, 06:06:30 PM

Quote from: AUPepBand on February 17, 2007, 05:49:27 PM
Final from McLane Center:
Alfred 62, Utica 61

Anything on Elmira vs. RIT? (Hail Mary!)

From empire8.com

Elmira 63
RIT 73

No box score on empire8 or the RIT Athletics site as of yet.

AUPepBand · February 17, 2007, 06:10:54 PM

RIT and Alfred both finish 8-6, having split head-to-head, split with 1.Fisher, split with 2.Utica, but RIT edges AU on tiebreaker by splitting with 3.Ithaca, while AU dropped both to the Bombers.

Good luck to the Tigers in the E8 Tourney....to be played at Fisher. Looks like Tigers will take on Cardinals, Utica faces Ithaca.

AUPepBand · February 17, 2007, 06:14:10 PM

Conference Tourney set:

http://www.empire8.com/021707-3.html

tigerfan2 · February 17, 2007, 06:29:01 PM

Quote from: Superman57 on February 12, 2007, 09:43:57 PM
I looked at the standings and ya there is no way unless utica chokes on both games...

I just find this funny right about now.

RIT/Fisher IV next week. When was the last time RIT and Fisher didn't play 4 times in a season? It seems like its been this way the last 3-4 years.

I'm also looking forward to everyone piling on Clearconceit for the ridiculous comments over the past week and his subsequent response where there will be no admission that anything he said was incorrect and that UC will still come into the E8 tourney and beat IC by 30 and then Fisher on their home floor by 20.

pg04 · February 17, 2007, 07:48:25 PM

Quote from: clearconceit on February 16, 2007, 09:54:21 AM
Here are the scores:

Naz 70 Elmira 59
Ithaca 80 RIT 77
Alfred 88 Hartwick 65
UTICA 76 SJF 65 (Score not indicative of how bad UTICA beats them)

Saturday
Ithaca 84 Naz 77
RIT 77 Elmira 55
Alfred 70 UTICA 67 (hung over from post game celebration on Fisher's floor, oh was it sweet)
SJF 71 Hartwick 66

A new Champion Will Be Crowned Tonight!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how hung over they are...

superman57 · February 17, 2007, 07:55:14 PM

Clearandconciets new name...CrackandCrackedup....

WOW utica really chokes on the chicken...Clear remember you can say at least we've got the ECAC's,

pg04 · February 17, 2007, 08:00:47 PM

Unfortunately it's not a nail in the coffin yet, they could always just still win the E8 tournament... however after this weekend it would appear any momentum is gone.

superman57 · February 17, 2007, 08:05:35 PM

I mean they had a chance to at least share the regular season title...and they choked....

sjfcards · February 17, 2007, 09:29:28 PM

Plus, now they have to play the two games of the tournament at Fisher, which they obviously have a hard time doing...All year people have said that they struggle on the trip to Rochester...proven true this weekend...

Clear had said they were a team of destiny...turns out he was correct...their destiny is to finish second in the conference and make a run at an ECAC title...

Caz Bombers · February 17, 2007, 10:00:23 PM

Naz beat Ithaca 84-80. I'd be annoyed, but that game didn't mean jack for IC anyway.

superman57 · February 17, 2007, 10:18:40 PM

except for the big MO...Fisher has it...just about everyone else came in on a down note...

early predictions

Ithaca over Utica
Fisher over RIT in a very close last second game

clearconceit · February 17, 2007, 10:36:07 PM

I don't make excuses. We were beaten period. As far as today's game I don't think a win would matter for the NCAA's. We need to win the tournament next weekend to get in. And I believe that would have been the case for Fisher had they lost at home to us.
The primary concern is weather Ray will be able to play next weekend. We obviously aren't the same team without him.

Congrats to Ithaca and RIT as well.

Final year awards:
COY: Kornaker
POY: Coccozziello
ROY: McAdams

Lets get healthy for next week!!!!!!!!!

DirkDiggler · February 18, 2007, 03:08:33 AM

I don't post much at all but I think I have alot of knowledge about basketball and Fisher since I go to school there. And to be honest with you, Coach Kornaker should not recieve coach of the year. (Yes Superman, there is a "not" in that sentence). Here are my reasons...

1) I know they won the league but seriously, Utica choked. So in my eyes, Utica gave Fisher the league title. And I know Fisher had a "down" year (talent wise) but many teams would love to have the down year that Fisher had. With that, I can really only see Fisher having that first loss to Utica. They had two returning all-conference players and Dan Mueller got a lot of time last year. That leads me to my second point...

2) The thing that perplexes me about Kornaker is that he has alot of sophomores and juniors on the bench that don't play. A good coach to me works everyone into the system so when they are a junior they can greatly contribute to the team. I'm not taking anything away from Newman, but I know for a fact that McKeaver and Coyne and Kiernan and the late Kevin Casey could be easily doing what Newman is. Adrian Fenyn should win the award of most God-given talent that doesn't play. He dropped 19 tonight but, to me, Kornaker has his favorites and sticks with them. Personally, I think Kornaker has a few favorites and in my book that isn't the sign of a good coach. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the 9321 freshman transfer.

3) I'm friends with about 90% of the team and I can say that about 99% of them have a bone to pick with the guy. How can a coach be COY if he doesn't have the respect of his players.

4) Watch his actions on the sideline!!! I laugh at the comments that say he could coach at the next level right now. THe D1 refs would T him up before he even stepped off of the bus. He has something to whine about every call, even if it goes for Fisher. I watch Goodemote and the guy is a gentleman. He respects the officials and only coaches. That is a coach.

5) I'm sorry but a COY should not have 62 people on his bench. Step up to the plate and let some people go.

6) I don't like to focus on the past seasons but look at the two previous years. The 28-0 year he might not have coached all but 21 seconds. Then comes Potsdam and Fisher loses by over 25. Next year... they barely beat Utica in the Sweet 16 then the Elite 8 was a close game. I know that Potsdam and Amherst were better then Fisher... but Phi Slamma Jamma was better then NC State. What I'm getting at is he hasn't had to do any coaching really. I saw from the stands this year that the assistant drew up the play that beat RIT at RIT during the regular season. Throw him in the same league and Amherst or the UofR and they might not beat the women's team.

Personally, just watching the games and talking with friends on the team I get the vibe that he isn't a "player's coach" I can see that though because it seems like he is never happy with anything.

I don't know who really should win COY. I can't see Goodemote now with the weekend they had. I might have to agree with GB15 and Mullins?

Good luck to the teams next weekend.

pg04 · February 18, 2007, 03:36:42 AM

Quote from: DirkDiggler on February 18, 2007, 03:08:33 AM
3) I'm friends with about 90% of the team and I can say that about 99% of them have a bone to pick with the guy. How can a coach be COY if he doesn't have the respect of his players.

It sounds like Dirk has a bone to pick as well. Seriously, is there a reason to come in here and report such "dissention" between coach and players at the most important point of the season? I'm sure the 90% of the team will be happy with you posting that here.

superman57 · February 18, 2007, 10:04:42 AM

I've never said that Kornaker should win coach of the year...I personally think Mullins from Ithaca should get it...but if Goodemote gets it then the award is a joke you shouldn't get coach of the year if you choke and give away the conference title... But I do think Kornaker is going to get the award...also ask Texas Tech players if they like bobby knight...

you may not like Kornaker but you have to respect what he's done...he's obviosuly the most successful coach in the E8