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superman57

only a minority of students actually go away, most students just go home, and therefore are still close to Fisher...It should be fun, my guess is that fisher will bring in pizza and good stuff like that...


I will post a resturant guide later in the week...
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

bjgiants6

Cadillac, I'm not a Fisher student. I just graduated from SUNY Cortland. It'll be interesting to see what happens. It could be like this past weekend with some Fisher students going OR it could be even a bigger turnout which would be very nice. Like I said from my previous post, this is a big deal for me, having the Regionals at Fisher, my home is right in Pittsford and this will be Fishers first time hosting it. Haven't seen Fisher play in the sweet 16 ever and last sweet 16 I saw was at Brockport back in '02.

diehardfan

Quote from: Superman57 on March 04, 2007, 02:50:17 PM
I will post a resturant guide later in the week...
Gotta include the best garbage plate restaurants... I know the Ohioans have been really wanting to eat one of those. ;)
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David Collinge

Quote from: Cadillac on March 04, 2007, 02:40:36 PM
Here's what Fisher's players were told:

1) SJF had a tougher out-of-region schedule.

2) SJF did well in the last two tournaments.

3) SJF's trip to the regionals in Amherst with an undefeated record 2 years ago played a role in this year's decision.

I can only hope that Fisher's players were lied to.  Here's the official site selection criteria:

Quote from: NCAA Men's D3 Basketball Championship Handbook, page 7Site Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.

There's nothing in there about how well they did in tournaments past, or whether they got screwed in site selection two years ago (except as it applies to "rotation of sites.")  There's nothing there either about out-of-region competition, except that that is part of the secondary criteria for seeding, and seeding is just the third priority--in other words, out-of-region competition is a very remote and insignificant factor if it is used at all.

Fisher was probably selected because they were the highest surviving seed in the bracket and has marginally acceptable facilities.  It can't hurt that there's a second local team in the draw, either. 

ksc218

Quote from: diehardfan on March 04, 2007, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: Superman57 on March 04, 2007, 02:50:17 PM
I will post a resturant guide later in the week...
Gotta include the best garbage plate restaurants... I know the Ohioans have been really wanting to eat one of those. ;)

fairport hots is where its at if you want a garbage plate, they can also be referred to as hambergur plate, junk plate or basically anything with plate in the name.

as far as fisher students go I wouldn't expect anymore than what was there saturday. However I expect fisher to hold their weight in attendance thanks to the huge numbers of adults who attend. I would expect tickets to be sold in advance at all areas and fisher too but you should be able to get tickets at the door since fishers tickets wont be sold out in presale.

superman57

Quote from: diehardfan on March 04, 2007, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: Superman57 on March 04, 2007, 02:50:17 PM
I will post a resturant guide later in the week...
Gotta include the best garbage plate restaurants... I know the Ohioans have been really wanting to eat one of those. ;)

Yes I recomend that whoever wins the JCU-WOOST game goes out to fairport hots and get a bunch of godfather plates, and then they should go to Baird Road Pub and wash it down with a couple genny's,
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

Cards7580

Quote from: Bill Gorman on March 04, 2007, 10:08:01 AM
As an adminsitrator from a school that played at Fisher Friday night (and I'm not hiding behind any alias), I want to congratulate St. John Fisher on picking up the two W's this past weekend.  While (obviously) myself and the rest of the Wentworth program were disappointed in Friday's outcome, Wentworth ran into a very hot shooting team, peaking at the right time, and the rest they say is history.  I was in the hallway behind where the Fisher players were standing and didn't see the Plattsburgh shot go in, just the reaction from the SJF players.

I also want to "tip my cap" to everyone at Fisher for putting on a great event.  None of our players had ever been in this situation and everything was first class and made the experience that much more enjoyable for the student-athletes, as well as their parents who made the trek.

Good luck as you move on!

And neither am I, Mr Gorman.  I have no affiliation with any college that was there other than being a "former" participant.  I'm glad you and your team had a great time.  Comparing my most recent experieces at Cortland State, RIT and Brockport State for the SUNYAC Championship game the preparation and operation and facility was far superior than the 'so called'  Fisher 1st class.   The Fisher staff works with what they have. What they have is an outdated "quait" little gym that at best might sit 900 people comfortably.  Little to no handicap access (zero on court level ) and they would have to look through the railing on the street level portion. And if Fisher counts their court level seating in this 1000-1200 seat capacity they should not.  Because it was not being used on the bench side and the first row on the opposite side remains off-limits to fans.   I would suspect having not been to Fisher during wit a full student crowd there, those seats are just for standing because they are narrow and did not get filled to capacity either night.

As a participant, sure ,  it might have seemed great.  As a visiting fan, far below expectations from a private school that has the money Fisher has to upgrade.   No "sour grapes" as one of you put it, just stating facts from observations.    There has got to be 50 high schools in the  Rochester area with better facilities than Fisher.

Cadillac

Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2007, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: Cadillac on March 04, 2007, 02:40:36 PM
Here's what Fisher's players were told:

1) SJF had a tougher out-of-region schedule.

2) SJF did well in the last two tournaments.

3) SJF's trip to the regionals in Amherst with an undefeated record 2 years ago played a role in this year's decision.

I can only hope that Fisher's players were lied to. 

Perhaps they were.  Maybe avenging the regional trip two years ago is some sort of motivation for the upperclassmen.  I'm just passing along what I was told.

Cards7580

Quote from: ksc218 on March 04, 2007, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: keystonelight on March 04, 2007, 01:33:02 PM
haha i think most fisher fans would welcome new referees

those referees were honestly horrible last night. they called 2 inbounding violations and somewhere around 30 fouls, including a hacking foul on plattsburgh with 7 seconds to go and the game already decided.

I agree.  They performed equally bad for both teams. 

Cadillac

Quote from: Superman57 on March 04, 2007, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: diehardfan on March 04, 2007, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: Superman57 on March 04, 2007, 02:50:17 PM
I will post a resturant guide later in the week...
Gotta include the best garbage plate restaurants... I know the Ohioans have been really wanting to eat one of those. ;)

Yes I recomend that whoever wins the JCU-WOOST game goes out to fairport hots and get a bunch of godfather plates, and then they should go to Baird Road Pub and wash it down with a couple genny's,

I recommend JCU or Wooster does that about 3 hours before the regional final game!

I think your first plate should always be at Nick's... then go to Fairport or my personal favorite, Penfield Hots.

sjfcards

Quote from: Cards7580 on March 04, 2007, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: Bill Gorman on March 04, 2007, 10:08:01 AM
As an adminsitrator from a school that played at Fisher Friday night (and I'm not hiding behind any alias), I want to congratulate St. John Fisher on picking up the two W's this past weekend.  While (obviously) myself and the rest of the Wentworth program were disappointed in Friday's outcome, Wentworth ran into a very hot shooting team, peaking at the right time, and the rest they say is history.  I was in the hallway behind where the Fisher players were standing and didn't see the Plattsburgh shot go in, just the reaction from the SJF players.

I also want to "tip my cap" to everyone at Fisher for putting on a great event.  None of our players had ever been in this situation and everything was first class and made the experience that much more enjoyable for the student-athletes, as well as their parents who made the trek.

Good luck as you move on!

And neither am I, Mr Gorman.  I have no affiliation with any college that was there other than being a "former" participant.  I'm glad you and your team had a great time.  Comparing my most recent experieces at Cortland State, RIT and Brockport State for the SUNYAC Championship game the preparation and operation and facility was far superior than the 'so called'  Fisher 1st class.   The Fisher staff works with what they have. What they have is an outdated "quait" little gym that at best might sit 900 people comfortably.  Little to no handicap access (zero on court level ) and they would have to look through the railing on the street level portion. And if Fisher counts their court level seating in this 1000-1200 seat capacity they should not.  Because it was not being used on the bench side and the first row on the opposite side remains off-limits to fans.   I would suspect having not been to Fisher during wit a full student crowd there, those seats are just for standing because they are narrow and did not get filled to capacity either night.

As a participant, sure ,  it might have seemed great.  As a visiting fan, far below expectations from a private school that has the money Fisher has to upgrade.   No "sour grapes" as one of you put it, just stating facts from observations.    There has got to be 50 high schools in the  Rochester area with better facilities than Fisher.

You sound a little sore about this weekend... Fisher's gym is not the best place to watch a game. That is no secret. It can still seat over 1000 people fairly easily (go to a Naz game and see how many the gym can fit). The gym is also usually full when school is in session. The Athletic facilities at Fisher are actually very good compared to most schools. The Baseball and softball fields are newly renovated and top notch...The football stadium was basically built by the Buffalo Bills, and is second to none in the area. And as an ex-player in the soccer program, the practice fields are better than most game fields that we played on.
The basketball facilities are a bit behind the rest of the schools facilities, but it is still a good enough place for a regional, Obviously. Fisher has made a few renovations to improve the gym (new scoreboard, new seating for the teams, and new lighting.

It is a good thing for Fisher to host the regional. I would have probably given the thing to JCU...but I am obviously not complaining.
GO FISHER!!!

FisherDynasty

If Fisher beats bport and john carrol upsets wooster then fisher will have an excellent chance at getting to the final 4.  I am with you on the If you would have asked me a month or 2 ago if fisher would be hosting the sweet 16 in the tournament i would have said you are nuts.  Stinks for Wooster seeing how they are ranked very highly and have less losses, however, thats how the ncaa works.  Fisher really needed that decision to go in there favor for a shot at getting to the final 4.  I hope to see a Fisher vs. Wooster match up in the elite 8 game. 

David Collinge

As a Wooster fan, it doesn't bother me if Fisher is the higher seed or anything like that.  All four teams are great, and all four could make good arguments that they "deserve" to be the host school and play these games at home.  My only complaint is the itty-bitty gym that will probably prevent me from being able to attend the games, when everyone could have been accommodated at Wooster (3400 cap.) and probably at JCU (2448) as well; and probably at other sites in the Rochester area.  Oh well.   :-\

Cards7580

sjfcards

But I am not talking about football fields, field houses and playing fields outside.  I am talking about an undersized "old" campus gym.   I took a walk around before the game on Saturday and was amazed to see what else was there and had to laugh at the "varsity" gym comparing it to the rest of the facilities.  

The only things I am "sore" about are my back and my throat.    ;D  

I haven't been to Nazareth in 20 years so if it looks the same as then, yes, you are right. But, so what ?
Nazareth isn't hosting anything.    

I'm just saying that the SJFisher TEAM deserves a better facility for the quality of their team.

Cards7580

David C  - Wooster fan

If you decide to go, get there at least 1.5 hours before gametime.     

or

Call the Sj Fisher offices (assistant AD in charge of facilities) to see if they are allocating tickets to each school.
I was told it would be done this past weekend, but I didn't see evidence of it from the students selling the
tickets at the door.       U of R got 200, and the other teams each were allocated 100 tickets ( as I was told).
However, those tickets were only going to be held until 15 minutes before gametime.   And If you do go, good luck with parking if the students are back. 

By the way, good luck to all the teams that are in it.