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superman57 · January 06, 2006, 10:03:51 PM

This was a lucky win, but clearc needs to come here and eat his words

ricco1 · January 06, 2006, 10:08:25 PM

Fisher wasn't lucky Fisher is better skilled. Lookout hawk here they come.

clearconceit · January 06, 2006, 10:19:50 PM

I am dismayed to say the least. While I agree Fisher got a little lucky, they are the better team. My hope is that we are the better team by the end of the year.

Congrats guys, you deserved it.

Anyone know how bad Hartwick got rocked tonight?

I am guessing 20 or more!

Caz Bombers · January 06, 2006, 10:28:30 PM

believe it or not, Hartwick only lost by 3 to Alfred. Hawks even had a chance to tie in the final minute but couldn't get a layup or follows to drop. Nice effort though, something they can build on.

hawks1323 · January 06, 2006, 10:32:04 PM

Saxons Shade Hartwick, 68-65
January 06, 2006 :
ONEONTA, NY – Junior center Dillon Stein (Norwin HS/N. Huntington, Pa.) scored 16 points and grabbed nine rebounds to lead Alfred University to a 68-65 win over Hartwick College in the first Empire 8 Conference game of the year for both teams at the Binder Gymnasium on Friday night.

Alfred took an early lead and led 35-31 at the half.

Hartwick responded in the second half, tying the game at 41-all on a pull up jumper by freshman guard Jan Cocozziello (New Hampton Prep/Westfield, N.J.) with 16:19 left in the game. The Hawks led by as many as four, taking a 62-58 lead with 5:11 left in the game on a jumper by Cocozziello.

The Saxons answered with a 7-0 run on an inside bucket by Stein, a three-pointer by junior guard Ryan Clemenson (South Seneca/Ovid, N.Y.), and a layup by Clemenson with 2:17 left to take a 65-62 lead.

After a free throw by Hartwick's Pat Dunnigan (Vernon Twp/Sussex, N.J.) cut the lead to one, 65-63, and a missed three-point try by Clemonson, Hartwick had a chance to tie the game with 52 seconds left, but Hartwick freshman forward Anthony Brown (North Division/Milwaukee, Wisc.) couldn't get a lay up to drop with 52 seconds left.

Stein converted on the other end to give Alfred a 67-63 lead that proved insurmountable.

Stein was 7-7 from the floor for the Saxons (6-5, 1-0), who also got 16 points from senior guard Quentin Bryant (Seneca Vocational/Buffalo, N.Y.). Clemenson added 12 and senior forward Todd Dersham (Campbell-Savona/Campbell, N.Y.) 11.

Hartwick was led by 20 from Cocozziello, 14 from Dunnigan, and 11 from senior guard Tim Kindlon (Bethlehem/Delmar, N.Y.). Brown finished with eight points, six rebounds, three blocks and four assists. The Hawks fall to 6-6, 0-1 in the Empire 8.

Hartwick will host St. John Fisher tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 p.m. Alfred travels to Utica College for a 4:00 p.m. tip off.

Caz Bombers · January 06, 2006, 10:33:47 PM

RIT was held without a field goal for the final 10:23 of the game after leading by 1 at the half....goes without saying that'll get you beat every time.

22 points for Jim Bellis, 9 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 steals (and yes, 6 turnovers) for Jon Whetstone.

bamm · January 06, 2006, 10:36:14 PM

Looks like the Tigers took another beating tonight. To be honest I'm not all that surprised after their awful night on Tuesday -- not easy to recover immediately from something that dreadful. Hopefully they can rebound at Elmira tomorrow.

Not surprised by the Fisher/Utica score either -- or the way the game flowed. Utica was going to come out fired up, ready to make a statement. Fisher would have to absorb early rush, settle down, and take control. Which looks like what happened in the second half. If you were there and it went any other way enlighten us.

Again, important win for Ithaca tonight as they will probably be fighting for the last two playoff spots with Alfred and (hopefully) RIT. They need to beat those teams at home.

bamm · January 06, 2006, 10:38:18 PM

CB,

Wow. That is an interesting piece of information. Tim Bacon is and should be their go to guy to get a score, was he in foul trouble or out of the game?

the bird man · January 06, 2006, 11:02:41 PM

Big win for Fisher even tho it was only the first league game. Utica is most likely the 2nd best team in the league and to beat them in Utica is Huge.

As for Fisher being lucky...well if taking a shot in the mouth from a very good team away from your home floor, staying poised and close enough to be able to turn the game around with about 12 minutes in the 2nd half, and head off with a convincing win is lucky well I guess we are lucky...

For all the people that are going to say that winning a close game at Utica by 8 is not convincing, I would say that beating the 2nd best team in the conference on their home floor is convincing no matter what the score. Fisher took Utica's best shot and was able to come away with a win.

Great win for Fisher...need to stay focused tomorrow or it is all worthless...Go cards.

Caz Bombers · January 06, 2006, 11:32:31 PM

Bamm, Bacon was RIT's leading scorer with 19 points and only committed one foul. Foul trouble wasn't an issue at all for the Tigers as nobody had more than 3 and only 14 total. I don't believe he got hurt as I think the play by play had him shooting free throws towards the end. Must have been some ice cold shooting (both teams shot about 42% for the game) and possibly some turnovers that did it.

I saw the score and said to myself, "damn it feels like we haven't beaten them in forever." Apparently we haven't: IC's release notes this is the first win for the Bombers against the Tigers since Feb. 2002.

clearconceit · January 07, 2006, 12:47:20 AM

I have to admit I am a little surprised by your team. Does this mean we will have it easy tomorrow?

I saw your box score and you guys are playing mostly freshmen. Very impressive indeed. I am wondering if ALfred is really the 2nd or 3rd best team.

Predictions for Sat:
We get Alfred by 20
Fisher gets you by 30-40.

Peace

fisheralum91 · January 07, 2006, 09:11:18 AM

No crow to eat today!
Congrats SJF!
ClearC- Don't worry you have a whole season ahead!
Just hope Fisher dosn't waste it today!

UCgrad45 · January 07, 2006, 09:54:23 AM

Utica gave that game away. The shooters went cold in the second half.

If you looked at the stats without knowing the score, you would assume Utica won by 15.

Fisher had 17 turnovers.

Utica killed them on the boards. 36-24. Offensive rebounds went to Utica 16-4.

Bottom line, if UC had hit there free throws, this game goes the other way. In my opinion, Utica has more talent overall and a deeper bench. Fishers experience was the difference in this game. I actully think Utica has a better chance at beating Fisher later in the season when they have a whole season of playing together under their belts.

I just hope they react to this with confidence, knowing that they can beat any team if they don't beat themselves.

ricco1 · January 07, 2006, 11:20:21 AM

I think the difference between Fisher and the rest of the teams is defense. Not to many teams play great defense like Fisher does.

the bird man · January 07, 2006, 12:04:39 PM

I think a lot of that shooting trouble from Utica in the 2nd half was some good defense by Fisher...

I wasn't at the game, but I heard it on the internet...I think the bottom line is Utica is a very good team, but in the end Fisher was a better team and was able to turn the game around and win.

Fisher cleared a major hurdle with the win...anyone think they can go undefeated in the conference 2 years in a row?
I think it is possible but very hard to do. With the win last night they have won 25 straight conference games, and are 29-2 in the last 2 years and one game this year. With domination like that I think anything is possible

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