Empire 8

[hawks1323]

Empire 8 Action
1/9/06 --> 1/14/06

Tuesday, January 10

7pm: Hamilton@Utica
8pm: Ithaca@Elmira

Wednesday, January 11

JP Morgan Chase Tournament

1. Fisher vs. 8 Geneseo @Nazerath, 6:15pm
5. Brockport vs. 4. RIT @Brockport, 8:15pm

3. Roberts Wesleyan vs. 6 Keuka @Brockport, 6:15pm
7. Nazareth vs. 2 Rochester @Nazerath, 8:15pm

Friday, January 13

JP Morgan Chase Tournament

Fisher/Geneseo/Brockport/RIT

Consolation@UR, 1:30pm
Semifinal@UR, 6:15pm

Roberts Wesleyan/Keuka/Naz/Rochester

Consolation@UR, 3:30pm
SemiFinal@UR, 8:15pm

8pm: Utica@Hartwick

Saturday, January 14

JP Morgan Chase Tournament

Seventh Place Game@RIT, 11am
Fifth Place Game @RIT, 1pm

Third Place Game@UR, 3pm

Championship Game@UR, 8pm


Enjoy the action!

[cantbestopped]

Why do two lower seeds get home games in the first round, or do the seedings only matter who you play?  it would make more sense to flip-flop the 8:15 games locations.

[bamm]

Tourney sites are rotated from year to year.  The tournament intentionally puts teams on their home floors in the first round, regardless of seed ( putting more butts in the bleachers is a good reason ).

[ricco1]

why do they let a team play on their home court? I think it might be UR- Fisher. If it is I think they should move it to RIT even though Fisher beat RIT on their court last year.

[the bird man]

as much as I would love to see a potential championship played away from UR's home floor, it is probably the best venue in rochester. Maybe Roberts is better but I don't think so. All the other gyms are too small.

[the bird man]

by the way...I hope Utica destroys Hamilton this week.

Not a big fan of the light blue I guess...I think it will be a good one.

[hoopfan17]

Right now, freshman guard Sean Burton looks like he could make a run at E8 ROY.

Ok I definitely can't agree with you on this one Ithaca fan, even though I am not a big Hartwick fan, I must say that hands down the E8 ROY is going to be Jan Cocozziello.  If you've seen this kid play you would completely understand.  Does anyone disagree with me on this one?

[bamm]

Birdman,

Just for the record, RIT has the biggest D3 gym in Rochester.  Although Clark Gym's listed capacity is only 211 more than UR's Palestra, I suspect the real difference is greater.

Roberts' gym is big as well, and I suspect it rivals RIT's capacity.  Both are bigger than the Palestra.

[UCgrad45]

Right now, freshman guard Sean Burton looks like he could make a run at E8 ROY.

Ok I definitely can't agree with you on this one Ithaca fan, even though I am not a big Hartwick fan, I must say that hands down the E8 ROY is going to be Jan Cocozziello.  If you've seen this kid play you would completely understand.  Does anyone disagree with me on this one?

Herring from Utica will likely be in the discussion.

[clearconceit]

Herring is a nice player, but even I have to admit that as much as I love my team, that kid from hartwick is on another level.  I am wondering how the hell they got him.

As for tonight, we are going to kick the crap out Hamilton for the E-8 baby.  The continentals are going down!!
And then were coming after you MADHAWK.

Peace

[gobombers15]

Right now, freshman guard Sean Burton looks like he could make a run at E8 ROY.

Ok I definitely can't agree with you on this one Ithaca fan, even though I am not a big Hartwick fan, I must say that hands down the E8 ROY is going to be Jan Cocozziello.  If you've seen this kid play you would completely understand.  Does anyone disagree with me on this one?

Hold up, where did I say he was definitely going to win E8 ROY? All I said is that if Burton continues playing like he has since he was inserted into the starting lineup, he'd be in the discussion(that's what "make a run at" means) for said award. Tell me how I was annointing him the winner or handing him the award right now? Burton's a solid player and a smart ballhandler; something this team has lacked since Dane Fischer left in 2001. Burton is MAYBE the 5th or 6th scoring option for Ithaca so it's obvious he won't have the numbers that Cococrisp for Hartwick has, but he may be just as important. Sure, the kid had 25 vs Fisher; but 20 of those were in the first half when Mike McGee was guarding him; McGee can't guard his shadow. In the 2nd half, with Bennett on him, he got locked up...which is to be expected. It's a numbers game and Cocoziello will probably win ROY but Burton will still be talked about.

You Utica fans should be worrying about whether Justin Cichon is even going to make the 1st team, let alone have a shot at E8 POY. He has a long way to go if he's going to catch Canori or Q.Bryant.

You all need to relax. I'm just not sure how you took me saying that Burton would be "in the discussion" as meaning "he'll be the winner." Quite a gap to bridge between the two.

As for the "lower-seeded" teams playing home games in the Chase, it's a necessary evil. Geneseo and Keuka are little too far off the beaten path to play at their place, so its rotated among the rest of the schools. The finals should always be at RIT as, like Bamm said, they have the biggest gym and the objective of the Chase SCHOLARSHIP Tournament is to raise money. Either way, UR is good enough that playing at Naz shouldn't matter. RIT, on the other hand, is hurt a little more by having to play at Brockport, but I'm not sure RIT would beat Brockport in Clark Gym(no disrespect to the Tigers).

[diesel32]

I have seen Sean Burton play first hand so it's hard to say that IC's Burton is the 5th or 6th option in that offense especially since he is one of the primary ballhandlers for that team and even more important if he has more 20 point games especially since he sat out all but the very end of the first semester he has flown somewhat under the radar. As for the Utica's Doug Herring he is at times an electrufying player but in his defense he has players like Ray Bryant, Willie Lucas, and a potential E8 POY in Justin Cichon so he is not looked upon to have to carry the load like the kid from Hartwick, and trust me being a utica fan i dont feel anyone could disagree, but please do try i claim to be right i'm just saying i'm not wrong

[the bird man]

bamm, I wasn't just talking about the size of the gym. UofR's gym is probably the best venue taking into account size, location, and quality of the venue.  I like Roberts gym, however, it seems to me that the Chase tourny championship should be in the city somewhere.
that is all I was sayin.

[thebear]

Having been in most of them, Geneseo has the largest Gym of the teams in the Chase Tourney, Louise Kuhl is the same size as Jerry Welsh, easily seats 2500-2800. 

Brockport's Tuttle North is listed at 2,000, but could fit more in a pinch.  Geneseo is only 25 minutes from Thruway Exit 46.

I believe RIT is in the process of building a huge new facility that clearly will have the largest capacity in the area.

[lileyes]

UC beat Hamilton 84-71!!