Empire 8

[tigerfan2]

I don't think that Geneseo or Brockport are really that much bigger than RIT.

RIT did build a new facility, but not for basketball, the games there aren't leaving Clark Gym anytime soon.

With over half the teams right in Rochester, no matter how big the gym is, I don't think we'll see the finals at Geneseo anytime soon. Probably not in Brockport either.

[woot]

the only reason why utica beat hamilton is because hamilton is missing three of its top players Tk, giorgi, and ray due to some unknown reason. utica is trash

[bamm]

the only reason why utica beat hamilton is because hamilton is missing three of its top players Tk, giorgi, and ray due to some unknown reason. utica is trash

Well, Utica isn't trash.  But aside from that, can anyone (I'm thinking it's beyond woot's capabilities) make a coherent post about why Hamilton was without those players?

[bamm]

Ithaca by a billion over Elmira.  Looks like the Eagles have settled comfortably into the basement of the E8.

[clearconceit]

Are you kidding me?  We kicked ass tonight.  We got off to a slow start and once we adjusted to their pressure we dominated.  We had foul trouble tonight and it still didn't matter.  Coaching really made a difference in this game.  We made adjustments and they didn't.  Nice to lok down there and not see Tom Murphy working the sideline.  We may have lost if he was there.

As for being trash, c'mon get a clue.  Go back to your liberty league sight.

Hey Mad Hawk get ready brother here we come.  We are going to lock up your freshman stud.  He can't be that good if he only scored 19 on FIsher's McGee - he can't guard a dead man, and Bennet gets way too much publicity from the Fisher crowd.  We win by atleast 25 on Friday.  I will be there - should I be looking for a man in a Hawk's costume?

Cheer up - it looks like you may split with Elmira this year!

[UCgrad45]

the only reason why utica beat hamilton is because hamilton is missing three of its top players Tk, giorgi, and ray due to some unknown reason. utica is trash

If the rumor about why the 2 guys from south africa weren't there is true, then Hamilton fans do not have the right to call ANY other program trash. I am not at liberty to repeat this rumor, but if it is true, it will likely be in the news (unless there is an amazing cover up job) and Hamilton can forget about having those two in the lineup for the rest of the season.


That being said, I'm not so sure that those two being out didn't help Hamilton stay closer than they would have. With their absence, Hamilton had to go with a smaller, faster lineup. As a result their D did excellent until Utica substituted to adjust. Hamilton also was forced to attempt twice the number of 3 pointers that they usually do. If not for hitting 12 three's, Hamilton wouldnt have had a prayer of staying within 20.

The absence of those two also had nothing to do with Herring and Cichon making the Hamilton guards look silly. Herring dropped 23 and made walchons look like he was the freshman. Bryant scored double figures despite sitting almost the entire first half with foul trouble. Utica had 4 guys in double figures.

The entire Utica team played tough tonight. They were down 13 with only about 12 minutes left, and then held Hamilton scoreless for almost 10 minutes.

Finally, excuses are like butts. We all have them, and they all stink. You didn't hear Fisher fans crying after their 2 losses that they didn't have Nick Bennet. You didn't hear RIT fans a few years back crying that they didn't have some of their best players. You didn't see UC claiming that they would have won a lot more games if Willie Lucas was on the team the whole season.

You play with what you have. Things happen, and as a team you have to react. Hamilton played tough without those guys today, and for that I give them credit.  But to say that the only reason UC won was because a few guys were not there is intellectually dishonest.

[woot]

i was kidding but seriously what is the rumor? recruiting violation? falsification of academic records???

[fisheralum91]

Good win by UC!
Even without couple of players- UC would still have won that game.

[hawks1323]

Booyah Folks,

Whoop d-doo Utica beats Undefeated Hamilton. It's history now and life goes on.

The plot thickens....Utica and the associated dog/pony show has 2 1/2 days to bask in the euphoria before heading down to Hartwick. Hopefully the egos will not rage, because there is the possibility of a story book season hitting a bump.

Utica fans consider this analogy:
Hartwick is to West Virginia, as Utica is to Villanova

Clearconceit- I am looking forward sitting with you Friday night, holding hands and singing kumbaya. While Utica pisses away a victory and Jan COCOZZIELLO lights up the scoreboard.

Do you want to sit in the same place you did during the Fitchburg game? Behind the opposing team's bench

Mull this over and get back to me...

Ciao for now!

[fisheralum91]

Hey Mad,
The only problem with your analogy is that West Virginia dosn't suck!

[hawks1323]

It's Early in Season, fisheralum91! You might be eating your words later in the season.

By the way...We had your Cardinal(s) at hello on Saturday! Experience, not talent, won the game!

[fisheralum91]

We will see mad man.
I give cred to your freshman- kid has talent, but as far as the season goes, I'm not too worried.

[hawks1323]

As for the Balco labs sponsored St. John Fisher.

See you Feb 3 and again on Feb 25/26

[dewcrew88]

Booyah Folks,

Whoop d-doo Utica beats Undefeated Hamilton. It's history now and life goes on.

The plot thickens....Utica and the associated dog/pony show has 2 1/2 days to bask in the euphoria before heading down to Hartwick. Hopefully the egos will not rage, because there is the possibility of a story book season hitting a bump.

Utica fans consider this analogy:
Hartwick is to West Virginia, as Utica is to Villanova

Clearconceit- I am looking forward sitting with you Friday night, holding hands and singing kumbaya. While Utica pisses away a victory and Jan COCOZZIELLO lights up the scoreboard.

Do you want to sit in the same place you did during the Fitchburg game? Behind the opposing team's bench

Mull this over and get back to me...

Ciao for now!

I really hope UC puts on a show on the Hawks' ass on Friday, so Mad Hawk will have to eat some oh-so-tasty crow.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.

[gobombers15]

Some quick hits before I have to run:

1)Good win for Utica--and the conference--over Hamilton. Like others have said, you play with what you have and make adjustments. That's sports. Ithaca's football team started something like 15 different starters(of 22), from their season opener, in their playoff game. That happens at this level, no excuses.

2)MadHawk, Hartwick is to WVU? I think not, considering that team was one half away from being in the Final Four last year and returns almost its entire squad. I would be willing to hear a Hartwick is Alcorn State basketball analogy, though.

3)The Bombers are rolling. Five straight wins and undefeated in conference play. The way I see it, we need about 8 wins to make the E8 tourney and we're well on our way. Good to see Andruskiewicz came back after a minor injury to score 15 pts in 19 mins. This team can beat anyone in the E8 this year with the way they shoot the 3.

4)I'm salivating for Ithaca @ Hartwick on January 20th.

5)MadHawk, maybe the Fisher guys actually hit the gym. If I had NFL-quality facilities at my disposal, I'd probably go a lot more often than I do.

6)Nick Bennett is overrated? Spoken like someone who is not familiar at all with that team.

7)Finally, the talent disparity between Fisher and Hartwick is huge. MadHawk, you may be the first person whose team lost by 26 points to claim that his team had as much talent as the other. You keep telling yourself that at night.

Gotta run, hope everyone has a good day. I'm pumped to see how the Chase plays out.