Empire 8

[bamm]

I'll take UR by 3 today, 78-75.

[UCgrad45]

The other one was before the game started when Bryant "dunked" in warm ups. Unfortunately for Utica, the officials missed Hartwick doing it about 10 times. Because of that, Montana from Hartwick scored 1 point without seeing any playing time.

Whaaa?? The zebras called a T in warmups?? and gave Hartwick a point??  For dunking?? I didn't even know they could do that. That's preposterous, ludicrous and a bunch of other long words too.  Makes you wonder how a guy gets to be a referee if all he wants to is to go on a hissy little power trip over nothing.

Not sure if that was sarcasm, but dunking in warm ups is supposed to be a technical foul. They made the right call, but missed Hartwick doing the same.

[gobombers15]

Plattsburgh knocks off Ithaca, 75-68. Two big runs--one in each half-- by the Cards did the Bombers in. In the first half Ithaca allowed Plattsburgh to go on a 16-0 run and open up a 13-point lead. The Bombers rallied to tie it going into the half at 36. The Bombers took a 60-58 lead with 4 1/2 minutes remaining but Plattsburgh went on a 9-0 to open it up and subsequently made all their FT's.

Brian Joe led the Bombers with 18 points. Freshman Sean Burton filled up the stat sheet with 14 pts, 5 reb, 5 asts, 4 stls. Jim Bellis had 11pts and 12 rebs but shot only 4-16 from the field. Not gonna say the Bombers got homed(I wasn't there) but P-burgh shot 34 ft's to Ithaca's 13 ft's. That's significant.

As for the Chase Final, I'm pissed I can't be there for it. I'll take Fisher in OT, 72-68.

[the bird man]

Fisher by 9 over U of R.

2 years in a row, now 11-2 with only empire 8 games left. I am feeling pretty good about a real good season.

[clearconceit]

Congrats to Fisher!  great for the league.

I didn't see the Herring T but I did see the Montana kid shoot 2 FT's.  A rule is a rule.  Utica didn't play bad on O, but the defense wasn'tgood.  Do you realize they shot 52% and we shot 41%.  Like I said, I am just happy to get the hell out with a win.

Later

[fisheralum91]

Finally!
Fisher beats UR at the palestra!
Well, now we know who the king of Roch is!
Now on to conference play!

[UCgrad45]

Congratulations to Fisher! Great for the conference.

I just realized that Utica went 3-0 against the Utica area teams this year! It's been a long time since that happened!

[fisheralum91]

UCgrad45,
I know that I have been busting on the coverage of UC in the local media lately, but it looks like things may be turning.  WKTV and the OD have given creit where it is finally due.  Now before all of you flip, I am not saying that this a rebirth if the Costello years, but it really takes a lot for this market to buy into UC basketball!
And BTW-Fisher-please build on the great chase-don't look back!!

[dewcrew88]

I prefer to think he's one of those idiots that dressed like a Pioneer-themed clown at Fisher for the E8 tourney last year.  That would explain his pre-game disappearance as well, as he needs some time to apply all that makeup.

Hey... wait a minute! As a former Utica College Pioneer, I take offense to that "clown" remark. Those guys aren't idiots, they are good fans and they keep the crowd entertained and the energy up.... Not really p-ed off or anything, but those guys aren't clowns, they're good fans!

[bamm]

Hey... wait a minute! As a former Utica College Pioneer, I take offense to that "clown" remark. Those guys aren't idiots, they are good fans and they keep the crowd entertained and the energy up.... Not really p-ed off or anything, but those guys aren't clowns, they're good fans!

I rescind my "clown" and "idiot" comment.     I was making an effort to poke fun at "clearconceit", who had just posted about getting kicked out of the gym (as a fan)... which obviously makes him an idiot.  So, unless either of those characters were him, I take it back.

[dewcrew88]

Hey... wait a minute! As a former Utica College Pioneer, I take offense to that "clown" remark. Those guys aren't idiots, they are good fans and they keep the crowd entertained and the energy up.... Not really p-ed off or anything, but those guys aren't clowns, they're good fans!

I rescind my "clown" and "idiot" comment.     I was making an effort to poke fun at "clearconceit", who had just posted about getting kicked out of the gym (as a fan)... which obviously makes him an idiot.  So, unless either of those characters were him, I take it back.

Thank you Bamm for the respect to rescind your comment. I graduated in 2004, and I used to go to the basketball and hockey games in 2001, 2002, and 2003, and "we" (as a UC Pioneer) had like 5 or 6 guys dressing up in capes and "wife-beaters" (sleeveless t-shirts) and putting on face paint and going nuts at every UC basketball home game.
At the hockey games, they would basically do the same thing, but also sit behind the penalty box at the Aud and harass the $hit out of any opposing players foolish enough to get in the box and the goalie if he sucked.
I don't know Clear (at least I don't think so), but if he is one of those guys... they were awesome guys for Utica College athletics. Definitely sucked that he got tossed from the game at Hartwick for screaming at the ref. As long as the screaming didn't include f*** or s*** , etc., that's a bull$hit call by the ref to toss you out as a fan.

[bamm]

The threshold for getting thrown out the game as a fan varies on the environment of the gym.  My guess is that in Utica, where the team has a recent history of being good, there is enough background noise that a few rude comments directed towards the referees will be ignored or not heard.

At Hartwick, on the other hand, I assume the gym is sparcely packed and you could hear a pin drop most of the time.  In that environment, where any rude comment could be heard echoing through the gym, you could really piss a referee off if you're rude.

[gobombers15]

It really does take a lot to get run from a D3 basketball game. My senior year(2003-04), a group of about four or five us would dress up in suits, sit in the front row and give the opposing teams(men and women) a very hard time. Such taunts included, but were not limited to, comments about their weight, looks, implied sexual preference, their girlfriend's "abilities", back hair, haircuts, shooting percentages and other fun facts that could be gathered from their player bios. We also gave the refs ridiculously tough times. One friend of mine would chase the ref almost back to half court when he made a call we disagreed with; he was only told to sit down a couple times.

My point is exactly what Budcrew said, so long as you don't drop a few magic words, you're golden. Also, it helps if you develop some rapport with the refs during pregame warmups. For instance, during the layup lines, walk over to the ref and say something to the effect of "Sir, vertical stripes really do have a slimming effect." Warn him that other team's best player tends to travel on his go-to move(see Jeff Sidney's spin move...sorry Fisher fans, it's true) and their best defender is a hack(whether he is or not), and be on with your business.

If you make yourself a person to the ref, they'll like you more. I can't even tell you how many times, after we said something, the ref looked at us like he was going to explode with laughter but couldn't at the risk of looking unprofessional. The only time I came remotely close to getting run was a Fisher vs Ithaca WOMEN'S game(hey, those games were more heated than Ithaca v Hartwick men's games). This one ref was awful and I made a comment about him having a man-perm. I could tell he didn't enjoy it and the next trip down the court I think he intentionally called something like "3 seconds" on the Bombers. I stood up and said "Sir, you have got..." and he cut me off right there and said to me "Sit down and shut the hell up or you're outta here." Subsequently, the Assistant AD told me to cool it.

Hope this information is helpful. And, Bamm, I agree with you about those two Utica guys last year at Fisher who were thematically dressed as something to the effect of ghetto fabulous superheroes. Should be some fun games this weekend in the league. Good luck.

[dewcrew88]

It really does take a lot to get run from a D3 basketball game. My senior year(2003-04), a group of about four or five us would dress up in suits, sit in the front row and give the opposing teams(men and women) a very hard time. Such taunts included, but were not limited to, comments about their weight, looks, implied sexual preference, their girlfriend's "abilities", back hair, haircuts, shooting percentages and other fun facts that could be gathered from their player bios. We also gave the refs ridiculously tough times. One friend of mine would chase the ref almost back to half court when he made a call we disagreed with; he was only told to sit down a couple times.

My point is exactly what Budcrew said, so long as you don't drop a few magic words, you're golden. Also, it helps if you develop some rapport with the refs during pregame warmups. For instance, during the layup lines, walk over to the ref and say something to the effect of "Sir, vertical stripes really do have a slimming effect." Warn him that other team's best player tends to travel on his go-to move(see Jeff Sidney's spin move...sorry Fisher fans, it's true) and their best defender is a hack(whether he is or not), and be on with your business.

If you make yourself a person to the ref, they'll like you more. I can't even tell you how many times, after we said something, the ref looked at us like he was going to explode with laughter but couldn't at the risk of looking unprofessional. The only time I came remotely close to getting run was a Fisher vs Ithaca WOMEN'S game(hey, those games were more heated than Ithaca v Hartwick men's games). This one ref was awful and I made a comment about him having a man-perm. I could tell he didn't enjoy it and the next trip down the court I think he intentionally called something like "3 seconds" on the Bombers. I stood up and said "Sir, you have got..." and he cut me off right there and said to me "Sit down and shut the hell up or you're outta here." Subsequently, the Assistant AD told me to cool it.

Hope this information is helpful. And, Bamm, I agree with you about those two Utica guys last year at Fisher who were thematically dressed as something to the effect of ghetto fabulous superheroes. Should be some fun games this weekend in the league. Good luck.

I know a couple of years ago that the guys who liked to dress up at the games like "ghetto fabulous superheroes" used to both be football players. I don't know if it still is football players (the two I know both graduated), but they are fun to watch.

[ricco1]

Gobombers15  you mentioned Sidney, but who is the hacker on defense?