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[JQV]

refs screwed utica...i mean, UC outrebounded oswego by 11! and still lost! that screams officials...not to mention the free throw differential. wow, oswego got this one handed to them on a silver platter! and an oswego fan admitted they got it handed to them too!

Hilarious.  (This has to be a sarcastic spoof...right?).  +k.

ive been lurking on this thread for while as footbal is mainly my thing---but i have to say that the ref screwing thing is getting old

I wouldn't worry about it FA91.  This kid was blasting that UC fan and that UC fan seems to have gone the way of Hey Pride.

[fisheralum91]

is it just me or does it seem (with a few exceptions) that dewcrew is the only sane UC fan on the board?

[bamm]

One more note, Zeinfeld leaving the team means RIT has only four upperclassmen left on the roster:  seniors Colin Roy and Kenny Gethers, juniors Mark Carson and Rick Whitwood.

[Cards7580]

[quote author=e8bballfan
refs screwed utica...i mean, UC outrebounded oswego by 11! and still lost! that screams officials...not to mention the free throw differential. wow, oswego got this one handed to them on a silver platter! and an oswego fan admitted they got it handed to them too!

I would like to see some other statistics before "leaping" to that conclusion.  I remember a game that Plattsbugh played against Div I University of Vermont were we were outrebounded something like 40 to 17.
They shot 40% from the floor, we shot 65%+ from the floor.  Their offensive rebounds were the difference, but they were missing shots left and right.  We got more free throws attempts, but they had less fouls called on them. Our fouls were non-shooting fouls theirs just happened to be fouls in the act of shooting.  They had over 15 turnovers, we had 10.  Rebounding margin doesn't tell you much unless you see the "rest of the story".    FYI Plattsburgh won by 1 point at UVM on a last second shot by Dan Theiss, BEFORE there was a three point line.  If we had a three point line THEN, we would had beat them by 10.

[bamm]

Turned the corner?

Naz just finished an impressive 3-game season sweep of RIT.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but going into the season I think RIT had won the last 11 games between the two schools.

That's pretty crazy.

[bombersquadron]

Had to go home yesterday to see some doctors, but Ithaca still handles Elmira without my presence. Elmira seemed pretty over matched by looking over the stats.  I heard the tried to play some kind of zone with one player guarding Burton 1 on 1. They also really tired to slow the game down and limit Ithaca's fastbreak. Ithaca just dominated Elmira on the defensive end.

Ithaca now has six days off before facing RIT. Long stretch for the Bombers with no weekend games until they host Fisher on Feb 8th.

Also, i was in the Hill Center today were the Gym is and got the media guide for the team this year. It seemed that before this year Ithaca held the series record between Utica College with the close margin of 48-18. Just thought UC Grad could take that as food for thought when he makes his triumphant return. 

[magicman]

Cards

e8bbfan wasn't complaining about the refs in the Oswego-Utica game. It's an inside joke. You have to go back a few weeks and read what was posted on this board by a Utica fan. Read my most recent post  and Jose's. You'll get the drift.

[sjfcards]

Well everygame is a big one for Fisher for the rest of the way. Any ideas of some other big games this weekend? Any suprises out there comming up?

[magicman]

Games of the Week



LL Vassar @ SLU on Sat.     Battle for 1st place         SLU 69-66

SUNYAC  Brockport @ Plattsburgh St. on Sat.  Battle for 1st place and probable host
                                                                         of SUNYAC tourney
                                                                          Plattsburgh  78-75

E8  Utica @ Fisher on Sat     Must win for Fisher and ucgrad   Fisher 67-62

[Cards7580]

Brockport @ Potsdam

Geneseo @ Plattsburgh

Most important for both Brockport and Plattsburgh to not be looking ahead to Saturday's match.
The other two teams are both capable of upsets despite W-L record of Potsdam.

[ALFREDHOOPS]

I see alot of predictions about final records. I think we all REALLY know nothing is definite in this conference. Almost anyone can beat anyone ( usually on their home court) I said ALMOST anyone. Your right my Alfred Team is not one of them. As I said previously I get to see all the teams at Stevens Tech, since I live down here. I saw Ithica and was impressed with there balance. I saw Elmira and very impressed with their coaching. I saw Fischer, and they did not impress me. They are not athletic, and seemed to quit after getting hammered in the first half of that game. ( I know they beat Stevens at Fischer BUT we all know about playing at Fischer). I saw Utica, and they are really one dimensional, and very inconsistant. Stevens went cold at the end BUT as RANKED teams will do, held on to win.  I saw Hartwick and another one dimensional team that couldn't stay in the game. I did not see RIT, or Nazareth this year. As far as Stevens goes they seem to be very athletic, and strong at the Center and Point Guard position. The Center Williams is tough when they get it in to him. I believe his shooting % is very good. The point guard Greco is as tough and smart as they come. The team seems very fluid when he is on the court. He can also burn you with a 3.  Then you have, as someone called them, the BIG 3. Farid, Grey and Pasalaqua. Good back up for Williams, I forget his name, # 33.. Two subs extremely good rebounders and defenders, Higgans and #32.  (sorry still getting to know the team). BUT as I said the road is tough. I truly believe no team finishes conference with less than 4 loses. But AGAIN, what do I know?         

[JQV]

Not sure about 4 losses but I have to see that Stevens remains a huge question mark to me.  All their league games are either played after a long bus ride or after their opponent has a long bus ride.  We might not know anything about Stevens until the Conference Championship game which will be their first game in which one team is not coming straight from the bus.

[fisheralum91]

The whole Stevens thing to me is odd.  I understand why they wanted in to the E8, but even the most talented team gets lagged after a long bus trip.  Surely they thought about this when joining, but it seems tough to handle knowing going in that they would have to travel to at least 1/2 of their conference games.
That being said----I know this is the bball board but who does anybody think will fill the spot in the E8 in football?

[Caz Bombers]

I'm sure their first choice was the NJAC and that league must have declined since it would have been like Ithaca, Fisher or RIT asking to join the SUNYAC.  Just not the same kind of school.

[fisheralum91]

well put plus k caz